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On July 17 2013 00:14 Comeh wrote:
Flipsid3 is my new favorite team.

Easily.

On July 17 2013 00:22 teapoted wrote:
I'd really like to see Flipside do well because of the members on the team. But they just can't seem to break through to the top tier.

It's hard to really say why, they're just kind of mediocre at everything.

On July 17 2013 00:14 Comeh wrote:
Flipsid3 is my new favorite team.

Easily.

On July 17 2013 00:26 Comeh wrote:

Well, it might not help when you are picking SB and Meepo and Axe and Dazzle.

Every game is a cheese strat.

Its beautiful.

On July 17 2013 00:39 teapoted wrote:
Well they do that because when they run standard strats they just don't have the execution.

Like NEXT.kz last summer.

On July 16 2013 23:49 Zephirdd wrote:
this game http://dotabuff.com/matches/244560224

One might look at this game and think it was a stomp. 19-10, 27min duration. "Omg the matchmaking is so bad, look at this shitty 0-1 storm, omg 300 gpm alch, valve why do u matchmake like that"

but in reality, this was an extremely balanced matchup.
First of all, we analyze the picks. Storm was pretty much forced into support role considering the other players heroes. DS didn't want to buy wards at all. So storm couldn't do shit all game, protecting the alchemist(who farmed like a boss during early game, I might add)

QoP didn't have the easiest time mid vs invoker, but invoker didn't play particularly well either.

We constantly made sure that Naix wouldn't farm too much.

DS didn't have the easiest time vs the brewmaster, who was playing well and constantly holding the harrassment with an early RoH

me and abaddon had a hard time keeping alch in check top, but as I said storm had to support him and we blocked the camp spawn so it wasn't particularly easy.

Come mid game, we 5man and push everything down. Alchemist and Lifestealer both had hand of midas, which made them weak in team fights that early. As DS said, "congratulations on reacting to the double midas of our team. WP".


It made me wonder. Those players weren't bad. Neither were us. If you would consider the raw skill level, both teams were actually dead even. But gamebreaking mistakes were made on Dire: two midas versus a team that could push early, particularly no good 4/5 position support was picked, we made a very low amount of mistakes(Abaddon helps in that he can forgive positional mistakes and whatnot, we won some fights we would have lost if it weren't for aphotic shield and mist coil) and we pushed as early as we could in order to kill them before alch and naix would destroy our team.

Like... it wasn't a skill level difference. It was just simple mistakes that added up.

While there are obvious stomps, most of my matches can be justified that way. Seriously, even if you are in a losing streak, it could be just bad luck of your teammates(and yourself) making mistakes that add up like that.

Is the MM really that bad as people make it out to be? I wonder.

On July 17 2013 01:33 Dattish wrote:
Ursa was the centerpiece of old NEXT.kz' play, they drafted him constantly.

On July 17 2013 01:47 Qbek wrote:
The only thing better than a bear is 2 bears.

On July 17 2013 02:03 Alaric wrote:
Quick unrelated question, I'm new to DotA 2 (played some DotA as a scrubby scrub almost 10 years ago, playing LoL, so I know the basics and stuff, but almost none of the specifics of items, heroes' interaction, smart courrier usage/support play and the like).
Is the "limited heroes" mode adapted to people like me, or would I be better off unticking it and going with the flow (since I've read here and there that players and Valve alike tend to direct players to boring-yet-effective picks rather than just simple stuff)?