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On July 10 2013 22:11 Mafe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2013 22:02 Unleashing wrote:Sometimes i wonder how little authors at PCgamer know about the games they try to compare. Unlike in Dota 2, you can buy items that increase the damage output of your abilities in LoL. Etheral blade??? Veil??? Aghanim??? Any hero that has an ability that scales with stats??? I mean skywrath mage literally scales with his intelligence which you get from buying items. I know we don't have an equivalent of AP but that doesn't make that statement any less wrong. In a strict very sense though, aghanims scepter is really the only one that increases the damage of spells, and even then only for some of the heroes. With very strict i mean: -passive effect, i.e. increases the damage of the spell each time you use it; also works on buildings if they are affected by spells. -does not increase any other stat as a side effect; though it can via another bonus of the item ofc. -does directly increase the damage of all spells in general and not because of some very special nature of the spell, i.e. as for skywrath mage. -increasing vulnerability of enemies =/= increasing your damage. (Ok I don't know lol, so im not sure if this "AP" fulfills all this conditions either.)
This really doesn't seem like that strict of a sense too me; it's just saying "items whose stated purpose is to increase the damage output of your abilities." Veil/Eth blade is more of a debuff than something that modifies your abilities itself, Agha is an item with varied effects, and skywrath mage is more of a hero-specific thing than an item thing. There's nothing close in dota to what AP is in lol in my opinion.
Really, I think that statement isn't bad at all, because it seems to me that hes basically saying "dota doesn't have anything like AP at all" instead of the literal meaning. Interpreting it as him not knowing about the existence of eth blade, etc, seems like a stretch (though maybe elsewhere in the article he displays other lack of knowledge that makes you think he doesn't know about eth blade, i haven't read it.)
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No TPL tourney on TL Calendar?
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So it's you who's been giving me all those omni items.
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I hope that the next guy that submits an Omni Item he created to Valve gets a lifetimeban :p
Or is forced to play him for all eternity.
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So I heard Valve spoiled crafting possibility with that Bloodstone thingy.
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On July 10 2013 23:47 739 wrote:
So I heard Valve spoiled crafting possibility with that Bloodstone thingy.
Wouldn't have been a huge surprise anyway.
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how might crafting work if it came to dota? i didnt play that tft game or whatever it was
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crafting in tf2 was a way to turn huge amounts of common crap items into one item that you kind of liked. I didnt do it too much but how it worked in tf2 was you could turn like 12-15 or something commons into one item that you actually wanted.
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On July 11 2013 00:03 FFGenerations wrote:
how might crafting work if it came to dota? i didnt play that tft game or whatever it was
Does this explain it to you? http://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Crafting
Basically in Team Fortress 2, you can smelt(?) items to get different metals (depending what item quality you smelted) and combine metals to make different items. You can also combine items to make a better/different item from those.
Crafting is sometimes random too.
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Should point out that not everything can be obtained through crafting. If you do want to craft a hat specifically it takes more than just doing it randomly.
All in all, not a bad system.
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I'm amused how much lacking sleep hurts my dota play.
How the hell does Black do it?
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On July 11 2013 00:10 Comeh wrote:
I'm amused how much lacking sleep hurts my dota play.
How the hell does Black do it?
he's not a human
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It's a pretty cool system. I can't wait to do away with all the useless axe/omni/np/lancer items that no one wants.
I'm wondering if you could create strange modifiers. That would be really cool.
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send me all your axe and omni crap plz
also happy birthday man 
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On July 11 2013 00:10 Comeh wrote:
I'm amused how much lacking sleep hurts my dota play.
How the hell does Black do it?
he doesnt do it
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On July 10 2013 22:50 Velr wrote:
Agree with Revo.
There is nothing like AP in Dota 2, therefore spells scale terribly when compared to autoattacks... There are a few exceptions but in general thats just the truth.
But in dota you have freaking level 6 monsters, true level 11-16 monsters, in LoL they almost all scale the same way.
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While there isn't strictly AP scaling in DotA, the same effect can be achieved from veil, dagon, eblade etc, not to mention refresher which essentially doubles your magical damage output. Combine this and the relative higher base damage of DotA skills and magical damage (should u build pure dmg glass cannons with high farm allocation as you would in lol) is equivalent or actually more than the damage in LoL.
The lack of "equivalent AP scaling" isn't what's preventing AP scaling, its the fact that 1) BKBs exist, and 2) spells have casting times and animations that make it stupid to build pure glasscannon magic output lategame
For example, compare a zeus with Refresher + Veil with any lol champ and you'll find that he does more AOE dmg than any LoL champ with equivalent items, or Eblade Dagon Lion for a single target comparison
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So, I've been very busy lately and I have only watched the Alienware Cup finals in the last week. What other good games would you guys recommend?
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