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BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-20 08:40:58
June 20 2013 08:39 GMT
#62641
Of all the hero they chose sniper for your mid training :3 Either this is a smart move to eliminate 0 shrapnel sniper or someone in Valve wants to ensuring new player will never level shrapnel. God bless dota world.

and now that i look at their tutorial plans, Valve is going for real to release the game before TI3. Why not i guess, to maximize their promotion of the game with TI3, as soon as the tutorials are ready to go.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
June 20 2013 08:48 GMT
#62642
TI3 + popouts for EVERYONE with steam + maybe new trailer or some other sort of promotion.
If they do it right they could get such a huge amount of new players, and with a good tutorial most of them might stick around.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 20 2013 08:56 GMT
#62643
On June 20 2013 17:39 BurningSera wrote:
Of all the hero they chose sniper for your mid training :3 Either this is a smart move to eliminate 0 shrapnel sniper or someone in Valve wants to ensuring new player will never level shrapnel. God bless dota world.

and now that i look at their tutorial plans, Valve is going for real to release the game before TI3. Why not i guess, to maximize their promotion of the game with TI3, as soon as the tutorials are ready to go.

tbh I'm just happy there is a tutorial system developed this quickly.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
June 20 2013 09:20 GMT
#62644
Sniper mid is a core part of the beginner meta, afaik. I don't think it's a big deal that it doesn't work on higher levels and that it's generally bad, you just want to introduce the players to the game. Mid sniper is something they will deal with, so why not use it in the tutorial?
super gg
Gheizen64
Profile Joined June 2010
Italy2077 Posts
June 20 2013 09:23 GMT
#62645
On June 20 2013 18:20 cecek wrote:
Sniper mid is a core part of the beginner meta, afaik. I don't think it's a big deal that it doesn't work on higher levels and that it's generally bad, you just want to introduce the players to the game. Mid sniper is something they will deal with, so why not use it in the tutorial?


I think it's more like this is a quick way to do the old lh training 10 min, no items, no skills, sniper solo mid.
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10953 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-20 09:26:06
June 20 2013 09:25 GMT
#62646
I agree... I mean, who do you want people to learn with?
TA, Puck, Qop are all not very "straightforward" and many, many others that would be good to learn it also don't see mid often in an actual game (melees are out of the question anyway imho).

I would probably have picked Viper for a mid tutorial.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
June 20 2013 09:38 GMT
#62647
beastmaster
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
June 20 2013 09:39 GMT
#62648
invoker
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-20 09:44:46
June 20 2013 09:41 GMT
#62649
If a beginner learns Invoker mid, he/she can learn anything...
Or Meepo? yeah good old Meepo

The first hero I ever played was Venge years and years ago, she is pretty straight forward. Luna is a good starter hero (not too complicated) as well
“What the public criticizes in you, cultivate. It is you.” - Jean Cocteau
Mandini
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1717 Posts
June 20 2013 09:43 GMT
#62650
I expect to get into DOEBUTT, I believe my 69% win rate with enchantress serves as qualification.
Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
June 20 2013 09:45 GMT
#62651
Honestly, I think they picked sniper to put focus on last hits. Sniper is easy to play but he doesn't have any real skills you can spam to get last hits, so getting kills on the opponent will be all about harassing and last hitting. Like the other tutorials, I'm sure there will be some text which gives direction, and it will probably give some advice on how to control the lane.
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10953 Posts
June 20 2013 10:04 GMT
#62652
On June 20 2013 18:38 Erasme wrote:
beastmaster



Awesome idea...
A hero that (theoretically) has to micro two extra Units or skills an aura that does not really help in lane with a decent Nuke and in general is pretty much defined by his Ultimate.
That would teach what exactly? How to bottle crow? How to not give a fuck and get lvl 6 asap?



739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
June 20 2013 10:05 GMT
#62653
Which hero for a mid tuturial? Zeus probably or ... Prophet or... OD...
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
June 20 2013 10:07 GMT
#62654
clinkz would be cool i think as mid, they can teach orbwalk, plus you have easy escape
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Incze
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Romania2058 Posts
June 20 2013 10:15 GMT
#62655
I think sniper is a pretty bad choice for the tutorial, since he has only 1 active until 6, so it might get quite boring.

I was thinking last night and I came up with an idea. What if Valve could implement some kind of system that increased the chance to queue you with people from the same country, so even if russians queued on US W for example, they'd get an all russian game. This might work much better after the game is released and there are a lot of players online, so there shouldn't be a huge skill disparity between players.
What do you think about this?
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cupoftealove
Profile Joined August 2012
325 Posts
June 20 2013 10:15 GMT
#62656
just tweeted that MVP is picking up a Dota 2 team.
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
June 20 2013 10:20 GMT
#62657
On June 20 2013 19:15 cupoftealove wrote:
https://twitter.com/Dota2KR_Voice/status/347622305561731072 just tweeted that MVP is picking up a Dota 2 team.


Wouldn't expect anything less with what Nexon/Valve are doing for Korea. Will be excellent for the scene just to have such an established organisation (I think they're big in LoL too?) with a dota2 representation
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
June 20 2013 10:22 GMT
#62658
Must be good times being a Dota player in Korea right now. I imagine you wouldn't even have to be that good to get picked up by a sponsor and get an opportunity to go pro. Considering the huge money that's going to be up for grabs and the relatively underdeveloped scene there.
super gg
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-20 10:32:23
June 20 2013 10:24 GMT
#62659
On June 20 2013 19:04 Velr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2013 18:38 Erasme wrote:
beastmaster



Awesome idea...
A hero that (theoretically) has to micro two extra Units or skills an aura that does not really help in lane with a decent Nuke and in general is pretty much defined by his Ultimate.
That would teach what exactly? How to bottle crow? How to not give a fuck and get lvl 6 asap?




That would teach how to play mid. You have a strength hero, not dependant on wards, that can push the lane to get the rune.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
June 20 2013 10:24 GMT
#62660
i wonder if any foreign or chinese teams will ship their players to korea to partake in the moneys since it's open right?
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