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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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shizaep
Canada2920 Posts
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On June 19 2013 04:17 TheYango wrote: 25 min Brown Boots Midas Agha is worth delaying team items like Mek/Urn/Vlads for on Warlock (which is the hero that I'm sure Sera has in mind). A bit of an exception, surely, but this predicates on the fact that you have someone else on your team picking up the other items. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On June 19 2013 04:22 Comeh wrote: A bit of an exception, surely, but this predicates on the fact that you have someone else on your team picking up the other items. Ya i was talking about wl, there are very few supportive heroes (that played on #3-5) are justified to get a midas in a game where 10 players at similar skill level. And frankly i never feel like I am supposed to get a mek as a #5, if early game went really well and we have no other mek carrier then sure (before 20-25mins), otherwise a near 30mins mek is just not worth it (might as well save up for a pipe at around 35-40mins). Like i can count the times of getting a mek on my CM with both of my hands, while in those games I didnt really want to get it unless the team really needed one. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On June 19 2013 04:47 BurningSera wrote: Ya i was talking about wl, there are very few supportive heroes (that played on #3-5) are justified to get a midas in a game where 10 players at similar skill level. And frankly i never feel like I am supposed to get a mek as a #5, if early game went really well and we have no other mek carrier then sure (before 20-25mins), otherwise a near 30mins mek is just not worth it (might as well save up for a pipe at around 35-40mins). Like i can count the times of getting a mek on my CM with both of my hands, while in those games I didnt really want to get it unless the team really needed one. I think if you are picking a midas up on WL, he should either be playing mid, or being run as a solo safe (or some 1v1 matchup). I feel as though it may just hit too lately otherwise as a support. | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
I wonder if something like that could work in the west. I very much doubt it tho, all inhouses seem to just fall apart, because the admins are idiots. =/ | ||
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TheAntZ
Israel6248 Posts
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beef42
Denmark1037 Posts
On June 19 2013 05:44 TheAntZ wrote: Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but is there any specific thread/subforum for dota 2 pickup games? Sorry if this post is misplaced They tend to die off. The problem with those initiatives is that while noble, it only takes one guy to make nine others think "wow these games suck, I'll never play here again." And so by Murphy's Law, it is frustratingly difficult to find a (not shit) community for inhouses. | ||
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Grettin
42416 Posts
On June 19 2013 05:40 cecek wrote: There will be an ingame ticket to watch the CDEC (basically the top class Chinese inhouse league) games. That's pretty awesome, imo. The organizers can use it to make the league even better, maybe increase prices for the players. I wonder if something like that could work in the west. I very much doubt it tho, all inhouses seem to just fall apart, because the admins are idiots. =/ I only know ixdl or whatever it is in west and i would never pay to watch that garbage, to be frank with you. It's nice that CDEC is getting an opportunity though. This is like having a small sponsor. | ||
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SilverStar
Sweden18511 Posts
https://mobile.twitter.com/WePlayDota2/status/347094957099737089 | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
I thought their format was pretty good tho | ||
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Darkren
Canada1841 Posts
On June 19 2013 04:04 BurningSera wrote: You are merely assuming that, but when the player can provide enough visions/detection/tp support etc every support duty and he still got his midas+agha before 25mins, i dont see an issue at all. Without Midas it is actually harder to make that happen, rushing agha is only good when you have huge advantage, if mid game turned shit you would be severely delayed for that agha. That said, going midas on support also requires some smooth early game. And how is that supposed to happen, Explain to me from min 0 to min 10 how u can achieve both warding and farming for midas? U have to sacrifice one or the other, if u build an aghs u can keep buying wards and once u reach 1200 gold ( which is gonna be even before u finish ur midas) u get +200 hp and +150, midas gives u 30 ias...., u will just be food for the oppenents, if they push and gank agressively u will be dead. Midas is 2k, Mek is 2.3 k, to put it in perspective. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Obviously this implies you just AFK-pulling, but it's not like Warlock does anything else effectively pre-6. He doesn't have any killing power, and popping a heal on your carry or Fatal Bonding the enemy off-laner to creeps doesn't restrict your ability to pull. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On June 19 2013 06:22 Darkren wrote: And how is that supposed to happen, Explain to me from min 0 to min 10 how u can achieve both warding and farming for midas? U have to sacrifice one or the other, if u build an aghs u can keep buying wards and once u reach 1200 gold ( which is gonna be even before u finish ur midas) u get +200 hp and +150, midas gives u 30 ias...., u will just be food for the oppenents, if they push and gank agressively u will be dead. Midas is 2k, Mek is 2.3 k, to put it in perspective. That's why i was very mad when someone i know dare to talk bullshit on me after playing for hundreds of support game for them, I may not buying every ward available but my vision is always up, and then i do whatever i want. Mek is an entirely different thing from midas, you needed a glove and then getting 1400 at a specific timing after doing some team fights, i am speaking from my experience, i dont do theorycrafting. Some wl games, all of these are safelane support wl: http://dotabuff.com/matches/192685885 http://dotabuff.com/matches/140136216 - i remember specifically this, i was talking this one when i typed. | ||
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Shootemup.
United States1044 Posts
On June 19 2013 05:44 TheAntZ wrote: Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but is there any specific thread/subforum for dota 2 pickup games? Sorry if this post is misplaced This is the thread about more casual inhouses that are ran occasionally. Join the in game channel TLIH too, people will say in there when a lobby is up. | ||
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Zandar
Netherlands1541 Posts
I can find the games casted by Tobiwan, but not the ones casted by Draskyl and Ayesee. | ||
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