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DeltaX
Profile Joined August 2011
United States287 Posts
June 18 2013 21:44 GMT
#62461
I don't really feel that warlock should be classified as a support for the purposes of buying dust/wards past the laning phase. Scepter and refresher on him are way too good to pass up and easily can auto-win you fights/games. If you think the game is going to go long as a warlock, getting a midas is an option if you get it fast enough, but I personally would get a fast mek if I had that kind of farm. That said, midas isn't the worst option.

As for real 5 position supports like cm, sd and vs, I can't actually see a scenario where you could get a midas before like 15 minutes unless you ignore wards, boots and just pull the jungle for 10 minutes. Even then you are giving up about a mek or force staff which would help you a lote more overall unless the game goes past 60 minutes (and that mek/force would not have won you the game before).
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
June 18 2013 21:53 GMT
#62462
i followed the spirit breaker advice

SPIRITS = BROKEN
LOSS STREAK = BROKEN

Also i had a hillarious amount of fun charging around the map, i didn't realize the buff was as good as it was, but it is man
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 18 2013 21:57 GMT
#62463
It really wasn't that big of a deal, it just got people playing the hero again.

The hero's been a decent pub off-laner since the 6.75 rework. Even though Empowering Haste got nerfed to hell, the base stats buff (+6 Strength +9 base damage gave him absolutely ridiculous level 1 stats) and the Charge buff were both really big (425 MS pre-buff charge was pretty much useless).
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Skipvth
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands180 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 22:08:39
June 18 2013 22:01 GMT
#62464
Just got a baby roshan from wax chest, my second baby roshan

On June 19 2013 06:43 Zandar wrote:
Does anyone know where I can find the Dreamhack vods?
I can find the games casted by Tobiwan, but not the ones casted by Draskyl and Ayesee.


http://en.twitch.tv/dreamhackdota/videos?kind=past_broadcasts
RoyGBiv_13
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1275 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-18 22:07:54
June 18 2013 22:06 GMT
#62465
On June 19 2013 06:44 DeltaX wrote:
I don't really feel that warlock should be classified as a support for the purposes of buying dust/wards past the laning phase. Scepter and refresher on him are way too good to pass up and easily can auto-win you fights/games. If you think the game is going to go long as a warlock, getting a midas is an option if you get it fast enough, but I personally would get a fast mek if I had that kind of farm. That said, midas isn't the worst option.

As for real 5 position supports like cm, sd and vs, I can't actually see a scenario where you could get a midas before like 15 minutes unless you ignore wards, boots and just pull the jungle for 10 minutes. Even then you are giving up about a mek or force staff which would help you a lote more overall unless the game goes past 60 minutes (and that mek/force would not have won you the game before).


Dota is not strictly a game of "roles" - warlock has an trait that he can be even more effective once he has a few key items. In many cases, the overall benefit to the team is to have warlock buy those items instead of wards because of how large an effect those items have in team fights. In some situations though, warlock will be better off buying wards.

Heroes that make good supports are usually the ones that are versatile, and capable of doing many different actions that a team could benefit from, like sacrificing buying other items in order to plant wards. In warlock's case, it is often more beneficial to the team to not forgo buying items.

EDIT: Essentially agreeing, but with bigger words :3
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 18 2013 22:11 GMT
#62466
On June 18 2013 22:14 Testuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 18 2013 21:45 SilverStar wrote:
On June 18 2013 20:23 Testuser wrote:
On June 18 2013 18:34 PrinceXizor wrote:
On June 18 2013 18:31 BlitzerSC wrote:
I'm surprised how few #midasgamers i meet in MM. That's the best way to win a pub imho.

I don't think i've lost a game when anyone on the other team built a midas, at least in dota 2.

Really? That's strange, midas is quite the valid item choice at times.

Yes but if you play bad it sets you further back. It's a risky item for lower level players.

I'm quite aware, that it sets you back if you purchase it at the wrong time. But I doubt most tl'ers are low-lvl mmr? Midas in the correct game can make all the difference.

I play a lot of 4 position and tend to just dominate anyone who goes midas by killing them.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
June 18 2013 22:25 GMT
#62467
i got water on my mechanical keyboard and now my 5 key doesnt feel the same anymore
help
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 18 2013 22:27 GMT
#62468
On June 19 2013 07:25 FinestHour wrote:
i got water on my mechanical keyboard and now my 5 key doesnt feel the same anymore
help

stop spending 80 dollars on keyboards just so they "feel" different.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
June 18 2013 22:31 GMT
#62469
http://dotaland.net/2013/06/18/more-details-on-the-chinese-national-esports-tournament/

seems like promising news for dota 2 in china, especially if it really is the headline game for the endeavour
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 18 2013 22:34 GMT
#62470
On June 19 2013 07:31 Asha` wrote:
http://dotaland.net/2013/06/18/more-details-on-the-chinese-national-esports-tournament/

seems like promising news for dota 2 in china, especially if it really is the headline game for the endeavour

Gotta love when govts get behind dota.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
June 18 2013 22:37 GMT
#62471
On June 19 2013 07:27 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 07:25 FinestHour wrote:
i got water on my mechanical keyboard and now my 5 key doesnt feel the same anymore
help

stop spending 80 dollars on keyboards just so they "feel" different.


how else can i be hipster
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
June 18 2013 22:40 GMT
#62472
On June 19 2013 07:27 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 07:25 FinestHour wrote:
i got water on my mechanical keyboard and now my 5 key doesnt feel the same anymore
help

stop spending 80 dollars on keyboards just so they "feel" different.

mech keyboard one of the best purchases of my digital life, imo
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
June 18 2013 22:42 GMT
#62473
On June 19 2013 07:27 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 07:25 FinestHour wrote:
i got water on my mechanical keyboard and now my 5 key doesnt feel the same anymore
help

stop spending 80 dollars on keyboards just so they "feel" different.


spoken like a true membrane pleb. I'll never go back to a non-mechanical keyboard. Finesthour clearly part of the master race.

To Finest, I would probably just remove all the caps around the 5 key and do a good cleaning, water shouldn't do any mechanical damage so, I think you're good to go it's just probably sticky from junk.
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RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
June 18 2013 22:45 GMT
#62474
Yeah pretty much everyone I know who went mechanical isn't going back (gotta love dat Das <3). Obviously it doesn't make you a better player or anything but the tactile experience is quite nice.
doomcig
Profile Joined June 2013
9 Posts
June 18 2013 22:50 GMT
#62475
Need that beta key!!!

User was banned for this post.
Doom II player
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 18 2013 23:38 GMT
#62476
On June 19 2013 07:45 RuskiPanda wrote:
Yeah pretty much everyone I know who went mechanical isn't going back (gotta love dat Das <3). Obviously it doesn't make you a better player or anything but the tactile experience is quite nice.

I've used friends mechanical keyboards. absolutely hate them. so now you know one
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
June 18 2013 23:39 GMT
#62477
All I know about mechanical keyboards is that it makes Skype conversations terrible.
WriterXiao8~~
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
June 18 2013 23:40 GMT
#62478
On June 19 2013 07:25 FinestHour wrote:
i got water on my mechanical keyboard and now my 5 key doesnt feel the same anymore
help

Water? I bet it was something else
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
June 18 2013 23:41 GMT
#62479
On June 19 2013 08:39 Kipsate wrote:
All I know about mechanical keyboards is that it makes Skype conversations terrible.

Remember when silent keyboards were a desirable thing?
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 18 2013 23:43 GMT
#62480
On June 19 2013 08:41 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 19 2013 08:39 Kipsate wrote:
All I know about mechanical keyboards is that it makes Skype conversations terrible.

Remember when silent keyboards were a desirable thing?

All i know is that my keyboard is significantly better for late night gaming when my girlfriend was sleeping. not that i have a girlfriend anymore, but when i did. a mechanical keyboard would have made it hard.
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