EPTYou're going to overwhelm yourself if you try to absorb everything at once. Remember when Quas+Wex was the dominant form of Invoker? People generally stuck very closely to the "basic" spells (Tornado, EMP, Cold Snap) and slowly expanded as they got better at the hero. But CS+FS requires you to effectively use 5 spells in order to have a complete game.
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
You're going to overwhelm yourself if you try to absorb everything at once. Remember when Quas+Wex was the dominant form of Invoker? People generally stuck very closely to the "basic" spells (Tornado, EMP, Cold Snap) and slowly expanded as they got better at the hero. But CS+FS requires you to effectively use 5 spells in order to have a complete game. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
Yango is talking about the noob friend of yours that picks the hero that looks the coolest and has a very limited understanding of the game. You guys are talking about some sort of theoretical, perhaps mythological, noob that will play bot games with a desire to improve their skills and understanding of the game before playing mm. | ||
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
Even after those Alacrity/GhostWalk/Tornado buffs. I thought we would see him back again. Guess it wasn't enough. Please buff his damage please. Icefrog. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On June 14 2013 03:31 PassiveAce wrote: Ya you guys are talking about two different "noobs" Yango is talking about the noob friend of yours that picks the hero that looks the coolest and has a very limited understanding of the game. You guys are talking about some sort of theoretical, perhaps mythological, noob that will play bot games with a desire to improve their skills and understanding of the game before playing mm. I never played bot games with invoker. I lost a lot. I have accepted my 36% wr on him as a consequence. | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
Im telling him to build a daedalus and use the skill that makes him auto attack better because thats what noobs can do. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
On June 14 2013 03:24 Excludos wrote: Seconded. If you play Invoker online without having tried him in bot games, you deserve no mercy. I deserved no mercy, but I learned pretty quick after all  I won't do the same now when I wanna learn meepo though, lol. | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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Mexico1880 Posts
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Netherlands1206 Posts
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Infernal_dream
United States2359 Posts
On June 14 2013 03:54 FinestHour wrote: ghost walk makes you unkillable imba summoner spell Almost raged when I saw the word summoner, then I looked at your post count and realized was trolling. Almost got me. I have not ever, nor probably will I ever play Invoker. My memory is way too shitty to remember those spells. I'll take visage or meepo for my apm hero of choice. | ||
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United States1674 Posts
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Netherlands4921 Posts
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
Do you guys rush Radiance? Or going the Phase+Maelstorm+Basher. I prefer the latter. Going Radiance in pubs is suicide. I miss abusing Armlet Bear. Those free towers. And now you actually have to be wary of bear with doing the creep pulling. That 300 Gold is something you really can't afford to give now. | ||
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RuskiPanda
United States2906 Posts
On June 14 2013 04:04 Infernal_dream wrote: Almost raged when I saw the word summoner, then I looked at your post count and realized was trolling. Almost got me. I have not ever, nor probably will I ever play Invoker. My memory is way too shitty to remember those spells. I'll take visage or meepo for my apm hero of choice. You can just play with the little help question mark menu thing up to the right of his skill bar. That's how I won my first few games in a row with him (though that was before most of the nerfs). | ||
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Talron
Germany7651 Posts
#E: Yea, I might add, how I play him, lol. Get one level into every skill, then proceed to priotize greater bash 1st and empowering haste 2nd - Ulti whenever possible and max charge last. Treads, Drums and aghs, is what is go for in "normal" games, when there's no need for special things, because imo a 20 sec CD BKB piercing disable with positional advantage is ridiculously strong. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On June 14 2013 05:20 FakeDeath wrote: Speaking LD, Do you guys rush Radiance? Or going the Phase+Maelstorm+Basher. I prefer the latter. Going Radiance in pubs is suicide. I miss abusing Armlet Bear. Those free towers. And now you actually have to be wary of bear with doing the creep pulling. That 300 Gold is something you really can't afford to give now. My go to build is phase malestrom AC Basher, particularly if i'm playing the 2 role. (although, vlads and AC can be picked up as well, which is cool for LD :D) | ||
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Darkren
Canada1841 Posts
On June 14 2013 05:39 Talron wrote: So, how you guys skill & build Bara these days? I'm playing him with mixed success since 6.78, but I think I'm playing a bit extraordinary, just like I play every other hero far off from standards. #E: Yea, I might add, how I play him, lol. Get one level into every skill, then proceed to priotize greater bash 1st and empowering haste 2nd - Ulti whenever possible and max charge last. Treads, Drums and aghs, is what is go for in "normal" games, when there's no need for special things, because imo a 20 sec CD BKB piercing disable with positional advantage is ridiculously strong. I like your build but i would lv charge second and not empowering haste, empowering haste does not scale very well and your attack damage is not reliant anymore on your movespeed so you wont get more damage from it, Also the bigger stunt on charge is more important and the faster charge can be really handy (charge lv1 feels really slow). I like aghs on sb but u have to be carefull about buying it sometimes a heart/ac/bkb/armlet might be way more usefull. Armlet is really strong, urn can be a nice start also | ||
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