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igotmyown
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4291 Posts
June 08 2013 09:48 GMT
#60881
On June 08 2013 17:05 Heyoka wrote:
Sorry my last post was ambiguous but I will ban both of you if you keep this shit up where you try to get the last word thanks!

edit: The posts where you're actually discussing things are okay, but not the ones where you insult each other.

Please do, it's basically 3 pages of spam to me.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
June 08 2013 09:49 GMT
#60882
Speaking about funny
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Can someone that plays mid disruptor tell me what boots you get,I find it pretty redundant to get mana boots if I got bottle.
Kind of a toss up between phase and threads but not sure.Prefer phase
Cackle™
Ramong
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark1706 Posts
June 08 2013 10:00 GMT
#60883
On June 08 2013 18:29 BlitzerSC wrote:
nothing compared to the old SingSing stream... I miss it...

Yeah, me too
"Yeah buddy"
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
June 08 2013 10:02 GMT
#60884
On June 08 2013 18:49 TheKefka wrote:
Speaking about funny
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Can someone that plays mid disruptor tell me what boots you get,I find it pretty redundant to get mana boots if I got bottle.
Kind of a toss up between phase and threads but not sure.Prefer phase

If your team is going to push as 4 or 5 early, you should still go for mana boots imo. Boots choice is situational, even having brown boots for an extended period of times is not bad sometimes as it allows to invest money in some other things.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 08 2013 10:03 GMT
#60885
Best boots, travel boots. glimpse a TP back to the other lane, but follow them with boots to kill them 1v1, like a man.

But uh probably mana boots.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 10:15:34
June 08 2013 10:15 GMT
#60886
You have 4 active skills and your main nuke costs 130 mana. Not to mention that if you are playing mid, you will be the expected carrier for mana-using team items like Mek or Pipe. Mana Boots are not redundant at all.
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SilverStar
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden18511 Posts
June 08 2013 10:22 GMT
#60887
What do you think the chances are that Qpanda will transform into Kaipi+Singsing?
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
June 08 2013 10:24 GMT
#60888
arcanes if your team needs it, but if they don't and you're going mid + bottle disruptor doesn't need the mana too badly
phase is a bit stronger in lane and early-midgame but treads scales a bit better later on in the game
i like treads since his spells have such long range but it doesn't really matter, phase/treads mostly comes down to preference
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 10:27:14
June 08 2013 10:26 GMT
#60889
On June 08 2013 18:29 BlitzerSC wrote:
Yes, Bulldog's stream is funny but it's nothing compared to the old SingSing stream... I miss it...
I think Sing makes more entertaining plays but his 'act' has gotten a bit old.

Then again I'm not big on watching personal streams, but almost the only ones I watch anymore is Bulldog's and if they're scrimming I'll watch Synd's.
Once you Goblak...
Tsutchie
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia951 Posts
June 08 2013 10:35 GMT
#60890
On June 08 2013 19:22 SilverStar wrote:
What do you think the chances are that Qpanda will transform into Kaipi+Singsing?


feel like there will be a big clash of personalities that just won't work out.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 10:39:57
June 08 2013 10:35 GMT
#60891
On June 08 2013 19:15 TheYango wrote:
You have 4 active skills and your main nuke costs 130 mana. Not to mention that if you are playing mid, you will be the expected carrier for mana-using team items like Mek or Pipe. Mana Boots are not redundant at all.

you would think that but what it's pretty meh tbh.
You have 4 active skill but you don't actually use 3 of them at all mostly unless it's in a combo and even when you do they all have a pretty hefty cd so usually you don't get to cast glimps or field multiple times that often.Field is also pretty cheep,70 mana is practically nothing.
By going mid you accumulate a pretty good amount of mana through items anyway and than suddenly you got this pool that you can't even make use of in the end.
Also you're supports are most likely going for mana boots,so you get mana form there anyway in mid game,where I kinda see the use of arcanes the most.
Cackle™
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
June 08 2013 10:55 GMT
#60892
On June 08 2013 19:35 TheKefka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 19:15 TheYango wrote:
You have 4 active skills and your main nuke costs 130 mana. Not to mention that if you are playing mid, you will be the expected carrier for mana-using team items like Mek or Pipe. Mana Boots are not redundant at all.

you would think that but what it's pretty meh tbh.
You have 4 active skill but you don't actually use 3 of them at all mostly unless it's in a combo and even when you do they all have a pretty hefty cd so usually you don't get to cast glimps or field multiple times that often.Field is also pretty cheep,70 mana is practically nothing.
By going mid you accumulate a pretty good amount of mana through items anyway and than suddenly you got this pool that you can't even make use of in the end.
Also you're supports are most likely going for mana boots,so you get mana form there anyway in mid game,where I kinda see the use of arcanes the most.

Wait weren't you guys talking about what boots for Disruptor? Aren't Disruptor THE support? Whats wrong with arcane boots so he can give mana to the whole team? I like it when my team has at least 2 Arcane boots, makes sustainable pushes.
Mew Mew Pew Pew
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 11:08:14
June 08 2013 10:57 GMT
#60893
On June 08 2013 19:35 Tsutchie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 19:22 SilverStar wrote:
What do you think the chances are that Qpanda will transform into Kaipi+Singsing?


feel like there will be a big clash of personalities that just won't work out.
SingSing really doesn't seem like that big of a personality when it comes to actually playing the game competitively. In scrims and when 'being serious' he if anything seems quite meek and doesn't really get involved other than just playing his game. This could be completely wrong, but that's the impression that's given.

If it wasn't for the whole QPAD sponsorship thing I could see it happening. But I don't think we will see a QPAD+Kaipi merge unless it's like 3-4 months down the road and there are no other options. Also it's hard to say without knowing what the chemistry within KP is like.

It wouldn't surprise me if Sing plays a "regular stand-in" role for as long as QPAD only has 3 members though.
Once you Goblak...
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
June 08 2013 11:07 GMT
#60894
On June 08 2013 19:55 Mithhaike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 19:35 TheKefka wrote:
On June 08 2013 19:15 TheYango wrote:
You have 4 active skills and your main nuke costs 130 mana. Not to mention that if you are playing mid, you will be the expected carrier for mana-using team items like Mek or Pipe. Mana Boots are not redundant at all.

you would think that but what it's pretty meh tbh.
You have 4 active skill but you don't actually use 3 of them at all mostly unless it's in a combo and even when you do they all have a pretty hefty cd so usually you don't get to cast glimps or field multiple times that often.Field is also pretty cheep,70 mana is practically nothing.
By going mid you accumulate a pretty good amount of mana through items anyway and than suddenly you got this pool that you can't even make use of in the end.
Also you're supports are most likely going for mana boots,so you get mana form there anyway in mid game,where I kinda see the use of arcanes the most.

Wait weren't you guys talking about what boots for Disruptor? Aren't Disruptor THE support? Whats wrong with arcane boots so he can give mana to the whole team? I like it when my team has at least 2 Arcane boots, makes sustainable pushes.

he's talking about mid disruptor, not support disruptor
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
June 08 2013 11:11 GMT
#60895
On June 08 2013 20:07 Dead9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 19:55 Mithhaike wrote:
On June 08 2013 19:35 TheKefka wrote:
On June 08 2013 19:15 TheYango wrote:
You have 4 active skills and your main nuke costs 130 mana. Not to mention that if you are playing mid, you will be the expected carrier for mana-using team items like Mek or Pipe. Mana Boots are not redundant at all.

you would think that but what it's pretty meh tbh.
You have 4 active skill but you don't actually use 3 of them at all mostly unless it's in a combo and even when you do they all have a pretty hefty cd so usually you don't get to cast glimps or field multiple times that often.Field is also pretty cheep,70 mana is practically nothing.
By going mid you accumulate a pretty good amount of mana through items anyway and than suddenly you got this pool that you can't even make use of in the end.
Also you're supports are most likely going for mana boots,so you get mana form there anyway in mid game,where I kinda see the use of arcanes the most.

Wait weren't you guys talking about what boots for Disruptor? Aren't Disruptor THE support? Whats wrong with arcane boots so he can give mana to the whole team? I like it when my team has at least 2 Arcane boots, makes sustainable pushes.

he's talking about mid disruptor, not support disruptor


Does it matter? Would the mid disruptor be going dps items like MKB/Deso/Orchid like a QOP/Storm(aka true mids) would? Would having that phase/treads be better in ANY case for the matter of fact, as a Disruptor. It's not like Disruptor scales well into the lategame, thus focusing on team items will still be better.

Mid disruptor advantage is just the level advantage, as all of his spells are awesome. Item progression should still be the same as a support.
Mew Mew Pew Pew
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
June 08 2013 11:21 GMT
#60896
mid disruptor can better items in a more reasonable amount of time than a support disruptor
like support disruptor can't get a very early mek, but mid disruptor can pick one up in 10~15 minutes which makes him pretty bulky for a while
arcanes are fine if your team needs them but treads/phase benefit disruptor more if his team doesn't need the extra mana. his autoattacks are also pretty decent midgame if he has levels (think solo leshrac or wr level)
AwfuL_
Profile Joined January 2013
Netherlands6976 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 11:37:33
June 08 2013 11:37 GMT
#60897
On June 08 2013 19:26 teapoted wrote:
Then again I'm not big on watching personal streams, but almost the only ones I watch anymore is Bulldog's and if they're scrimming I'll watch Synd's.


Everytime I open his stream he is playing either LD or Prophet which leads to me closing the stream again. Maybe I should give it a better chance..
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
June 08 2013 11:49 GMT
#60898
Bulldog is one of the few people who will voluntarily play long lane though instead of taking a free farm lane or mid.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 11:57:54
June 08 2013 11:50 GMT
#60899
On June 08 2013 20:11 Mithhaike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 20:07 Dead9 wrote:
On June 08 2013 19:55 Mithhaike wrote:
On June 08 2013 19:35 TheKefka wrote:
On June 08 2013 19:15 TheYango wrote:
You have 4 active skills and your main nuke costs 130 mana. Not to mention that if you are playing mid, you will be the expected carrier for mana-using team items like Mek or Pipe. Mana Boots are not redundant at all.

you would think that but what it's pretty meh tbh.
You have 4 active skill but you don't actually use 3 of them at all mostly unless it's in a combo and even when you do they all have a pretty hefty cd so usually you don't get to cast glimps or field multiple times that often.Field is also pretty cheep,70 mana is practically nothing.
By going mid you accumulate a pretty good amount of mana through items anyway and than suddenly you got this pool that you can't even make use of in the end.
Also you're supports are most likely going for mana boots,so you get mana form there anyway in mid game,where I kinda see the use of arcanes the most.

Wait weren't you guys talking about what boots for Disruptor? Aren't Disruptor THE support? Whats wrong with arcane boots so he can give mana to the whole team? I like it when my team has at least 2 Arcane boots, makes sustainable pushes.

he's talking about mid disruptor, not support disruptor


Does it matter? Would the mid disruptor be going dps items like MKB/Deso/Orchid like a QOP/Storm(aka true mids) would? Would having that phase/treads be better in ANY case for the matter of fact, as a Disruptor. It's not like Disruptor scales well into the lategame, thus focusing on team items will still be better.

Mid disruptor advantage is just the level advantage, as all of his spells are awesome. Item progression should still be the same as a support.

It's a pretty big difference since not only can you get items a lot faster you get items that a support disruptor never could afford like euls,sheep,atos w/e
Phase boots lets you last hit easier,harass easier,control runes so yea,I feel like it's definitely better than arcanes if you don't need the mana really.Think of it as how you would build a Invoker.
Cackle™
Altsa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Finland990 Posts
June 08 2013 11:50 GMT
#60900
Im absolutely shredding stuff with Timbersaw in this patch. Loving the buffs.
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