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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
June 08 2013 07:25 GMT
#60861
stream 1v1 Grudgematch please.

same hero techies all mid no true sight allowed

+ Show Spoiler +
but no techies
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Darkren
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1841 Posts
June 08 2013 07:27 GMT
#60862
Next game i get cm i am sooooooooooo jungling with her

THZ LUMIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII U 2 pro
"Yeah, I send (hopefully) helpful PM's quite frequently. You don't have to warn/ban everything" - KadaverBB
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 07:34:24
June 08 2013 07:31 GMT
#60863
You said that huskars physical damage will outweigh the damage from his spells because you said he was not like razor who deals most of his damage with his spells (BTW most of damage means that Spell damage is 50.01% of the damage and Physical damage is 49.99% at minimum, in case you didn't know). this is the case at +200 damage at level 16 for huskar. I don't know how you don't understand that. Obviously you use your spells when you go DPS items, but even then your physical damage doesn't begin to be >50% of your total damage until +200 damage. That is an inescapable fact. if you were trying to argue that "spells < same spells + physical damage" then i don't think a single person could disagree. but you said that huskar did NOT deal the majority of his damage with his spells.

just to recap, since you've been pretty slow on the uptake:

Most of damage means that spell damage is >50% of your total damage.

Huskars breakeven point for when spell damage =50% of total damage is +200 damage at lvl 16. This is true assuming both huskars are using their spells. otherwise the breakeven point would be +0 since huskar wouldn't be using any spells.

armor and ghost scepter exist and disables stop you from attacking so those factors apply to literally both sides. (though you can potentially avoid it from stopping you from leaping if you time it well, and armor is significantly more common than magic resist items)


I'm getting a headache trying to explain basic math and concepts to you.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
June 08 2013 07:36 GMT
#60864
jesus your reading comprehension is amazing
what's it like in your own little world?
getting a headache from thinking too hard?

direct quote:
"razor puts out a lot of his damage via his skills and can avoid a lot of damage by kiting around. huskar generally leaps into the middle of a teamfight and autoattacks until things die."

look you have three options here:
a) grudgematch
b) stop posting garbage theorycraft
c) stop posting
you've already failed at two of the above
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
June 08 2013 07:37 GMT
#60865
You're both being stupid can you guys just agree to stop talking to each other or something, it's getting obnoxious.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 08 2013 07:37 GMT
#60866
On June 08 2013 16:37 Heyoka wrote:
You're both being stupid can you guys just agree to stop talking to each other or something, it's getting obnoxious.

i tried T_T.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
June 08 2013 07:38 GMT
#60867
oh and just to clarify so you don't get hung up on it
i count his spears as part of his autoattack damage
Shaella
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States14828 Posts
June 08 2013 07:38 GMT
#60868
They have to 1v1 SF mid now. Its the only way to resolve it
don't tell me to provide a legend for those charts cause we already got shaella in this thread - eieio | Bulba is my waifu
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
June 08 2013 07:38 GMT
#60869
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=103767258

valve employee is definitely on another class :D
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 07:46:27
June 08 2013 07:41 GMT
#60870
On June 08 2013 16:38 Shaella wrote:
They have to 1v1 SF mid now. Its the only way to resolve it

no he just needs a tutor.


So anyway. What am i supposed to build on TC/Elder Titan and how am i supposed to use him. I never actually played him in dota 1 and my only experience with him in dota 2 is a single game where my whole team was telling me how great i was but i was just building generic cost effective items and having absolutely no clue what i was supposed to be doing and stuff so i was just throwing out spells and hoping.
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
June 08 2013 07:59 GMT
#60871
TC 101:

- My starting items: 3 clarity, 1 gaunet, tango 2xGG branches salve(off lane). Safe lane:quelling salve tango gg branches/ gaunet

- Last hit and harass enemy squishy support with spirit. Stack and farm enemy jungle if the lane is too pull heavy.

- Early game you need to man up: get your spirit run through 2 waves or 1 waves + jungle camp + hero, then return and trade hits with the most squishy hero on the enemy team. You gona get fb if the enemy took enough harass from your spirit.

- Rush urn if you cant find farm, else mana boot.

- max spirit, 3 points in stomp, max aura, ulti get normal.

- Aura range is extremely small so you need to man up like axe.

- Mid game depends on how impact you are get items accordingly: mek/medallion if feed, atos if win.

- Late game: AC is core for survival. Lorthar deso for lol, otherwise sheep shiva heaven halberd bkb etc...
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
June 08 2013 08:00 GMT
#60872
you realize i'm only responding because you keep insulting me after dodging the grudgematch

arcanes > tanky and/or refresher/utility items
stomp split earth things and stand next to them til they die
mek, bkb, shivas, atos, jango, etc
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 08 2013 08:03 GMT
#60873
so he's not played solo mid? O_O i was in mid the game i played.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
June 08 2013 08:05 GMT
#60874
doesn't matter as long as he gets a solo lane or a dual lane with good kill potential
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 08:07:58
June 08 2013 08:05 GMT
#60875
Sorry my last post was ambiguous but I will ban both of you if you keep this shit up where you try to get the last word thanks!

edit: The posts where you're actually discussing things are okay, but not the ones where you insult each other.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
June 08 2013 08:05 GMT
#60876
Cackle™
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
June 08 2013 08:34 GMT
#60877
On June 08 2013 17:03 PrinceXizor wrote:
so he's not played solo mid? O_O i was in mid the game i played.

mid involve bottle crow and spam spirit for last hit just like mag. Pretty straight forward and nothing to mention. You could also contest rune with spirit stomp setup for sleep time. But overall, if you got like a lane destroyer like QoP or OD, you are still fuck.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 08 2013 08:47 GMT
#60878
He crushes melee mids very hard because of the spirit MS/damage buff (basically no melee hero can fight you with 90 damage level 1), but against ranged mids, hes not any different from any other bottle crow hero.
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toemn
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany915 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 09:22:31
June 08 2013 09:21 GMT
#60879
bulldogs stream is the funniest shit i've seen for awhile :D

"the king is here!", charges into three enemies throwing his fireball.

- xyclopz (skeleton king)
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 09:36:13
June 08 2013 09:29 GMT
#60880
Yes, Bulldog's stream is funny but it's nothing compared to the old SingSing stream... I miss it...
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