EPTBut the hero curves out much earlier now because as a farming skill, Blood lost a LOT of potency in exchange for an early-game focused combat stat. If you're expecting to play the hero as an early teamfighter on 1-2 major items, then putting a HoD into those early items instead of something with more combat stats isn't all that good.
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
But the hero curves out much earlier now because as a farming skill, Blood lost a LOT of potency in exchange for an early-game focused combat stat. If you're expecting to play the hero as an early teamfighter on 1-2 major items, then putting a HoD into those early items instead of something with more combat stats isn't all that good. | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
On June 07 2013 10:47 Infernal_dream wrote: Except it also gave you an innate unfair advantage against someone who didn't have it. You knew exactly how far out to sit for xp or to skip xp while others had to guess. These are things that honestly you should learn and just kinda guess. You know roughly the range of say a 600 range hero then yous hould be able to double that in your head. Shouldn't rely on a circle to show you where you can go. The thing is that everyone had it. Maybe not everyone was aware.. that's different. Valve could put it into options. Not everybody knows SD says "sa nith ika gluth" when he casts disruption either. Am I having an innate advantage by knowing that if I cast split earth at the same time as 'ika' that it'll autostun everybody? Others have to guess the duration, after all. On a side note I played a pudge game today and realized how much I miss this for placing hooks. I kept hovering my mouse over the skill, which worked pretty well. I could get used to that. Maybe valve should add something like that for dagger and xp. | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
I don't think lifesteal is that compelling after the change because as a combat stat it's very weak early-midgame. Lifesteal items are primarily farming items when bought that early and the new Husk can't farm like the old one did. | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
If you're not going to abuse HoD farming power on Ancients or do Roshan, there was very little reason to buy ANY lifesteal until 3rd or 4th item because it's not all that good in fights early, and you don't need Lifesteal to control your HP amount if you're not doing Roshan or stacked Ancients (Helm of Iron Will/Armlet HP regen is enough). | ||
Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
On June 07 2013 12:27 TheYango wrote: Pre-remake Husk had a lot of reason to stack Ancients because you farmed them extremely efficiently at the point where your HP flatlined against them at like 20% HP. So the upgrade from Mask to HoD gave you what you were actually wanting from the item in the first place, which was farming ability. I don't think lifesteal is that compelling after the change because as a combat stat it's very weak early-midgame. Lifesteal items are primarily farming items when bought that early and the new Husk can't farm like the old one did. You need some form of lifesteal imo if you want to use huskarr's main strength which is the ability to stay at low health and just stay static while doing damage. You get more magic resist which is really good if someone tries to burst you down and it's not so dangerous to not go BKB but you still have no answer for melee carries. You COULD go ghost sceptor but I just don't understand the point when you need to auto attack, and lifesteal is the same price with basically just as good stats. | ||
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RuskiPanda
United States2906 Posts
On June 07 2013 13:01 Itsmedudeman wrote: You need some form of lifesteal imo if you want to use huskarr's main strength which is the ability to stay at low health and just stay static while doing damage. You get more magic resist which is really good if someone tries to burst you down and it's not so dangerous to not go BKB but you still have no answer for melee carries. You COULD go ghost sceptor but I just don't understand the point when you need to auto attack, and lifesteal is the same price with basically just as good stats. It was good before because you would stay "static" from machine-gun autoattacking with a huge bonus to your attack damage. Getting lifesteal early now means you will still be machine-gun autoattacking at low hp except with like 70-80 base damage so you won't be getting much back at all. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
I suppose its good we have one ;] | ||
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Ramong
Denmark1706 Posts
Nearly all of those games are with a friend who pick Omniknight, a godly duo :D I personally don't like getting Lifesteal on Huskar anymore, now I just go treads, armlet, daedalus, BKB if needed, Cuirass and then go man mode the enemy to death! | ||
TheEmulator
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
also inner vitality is pretty good. it can be used as an out-of-combat heal, but it's better for regeneration in combat. if you drop below 40% hp it heals you for 3% of your hp per second + 8 regen if you're under 40%, which is pretty strong at all stages of the game | ||
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givemefive
United States300 Posts
I always go mid with him. 2x gauntlets, 2x branches, salve, tango. 0/4/2/1 is my build. Then max BB and get heal. My build is brown boots, urn, wand, armlet, situational items like bkb, ghost scepter, HH, mkb, etc. Super late game you'll want daedalus or mkb with bkb and satanic but the game is usually decided before you get there. I've played 5 games so far and every single one of them I've won mid easily, no contest. Usually I just zone them out with spears, they ferry regen a few times because they can't afford a bottle and then I harass some more and go for the kill when I get my brown boots and they are at half health. 4-5 stacks of spears and they just run away and die past their tower. Huskar's biggest weaknesses are his poor scaling, poor farming, and pure/physical burst. Get ghost scepter vs like TA or Clinkz and BKB vs pure damage like Omniknight or Timbersaw. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
Go to community tab and trace the games via players teams. Watch high level Chinese IH games. | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
On June 07 2013 14:09 TheEmulator wrote: I am like 3-0 against Huskar players in the last two days. It makes me feel good shutting down these patch Huskar stompers. >patch huskar stompers Man, we're really starting to go full SC2 aren't we its totally not that people haven't learned how to deal with new huskar yet | ||
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TheEmulator
28103 Posts
On June 07 2013 14:59 Shaella wrote: >patch huskar stompers Man, we're really starting to go full SC2 aren't we its totally not that people haven't learned how to deal with new huskar yet I wasn't being serious. | ||
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Darkren
Canada1841 Posts
On June 07 2013 13:54 Comeh wrote: TheYango - our resident Huskar expert. I suppose its good we have one ;] It's more like general forum is a place where somebody ask a question and yango answers, but his answer is not totaly complete so someone comes with a minor objection and yango keeps talking to himself. The GD or ASK YANGO A QUESTION THREAD | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On June 07 2013 15:16 Darkren wrote: It's more like general forum is a place where somebody ask a question and yango answers, but his answer is not totaly complete so someone comes with a minor objection and yango keeps talking to himself. The GD or ASK YANGO A QUESTION THREAD The Ask Yango A question Thread is the Simple Question, Simple Answers thread | ||
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Caladbolg
2855 Posts
Quick question for anyone: what hero would you suggest he play for the next few games we have so that he'll get used to those two things? I was thinking viper or drow but viper is a bit too easy with the ult and drow isn't a good pick for someone who doesn't know how to position his hero. Also, neither one has an escape mechanism that would be useful for new players. (personally I was thinking maybe weaver?) | ||
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