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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On June 07 2013 10:59 flamewheel wrote: boots urn armlet ghost scepter seems cute now for huskar ghost scepter is freaking hard to use though... you cant really orb walk up to the potential IAS huskar has. Personally i just build basher :-/ crit heart etc... On June 07 2013 11:16 icystorage wrote: wait. i dont get it. why get GS on huskar? GS then ulti? you get 98% magical reduction, GS negate physical-> invulnerable. | ||
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wuhan_clan
United States5609 Posts
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On June 07 2013 11:16 icystorage wrote: wait. i dont get it. why get GS on huskar? GS then ulti? You can attack with GS if you have orbs and you manually cast them, so you are virtually immune to magic with berserkers blood and immune to physical hits. You can shift queue your attacks I believe, so you don't need to orb walk. | ||
flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
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icystorage
Jollibee19350 Posts
On June 07 2013 11:17 NB wrote: ghost scepter is freaking hard to use though... you cant really orb walk up to the potential IAS huskar has. Personally i just build basher :-/ crit heart etc... you get 98% magical reduction, GS negate physical-> invulnerable. what about the GS magic amp? its negated too? | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On June 07 2013 11:20 icystorage wrote: what about the GS magic amp? its negated too? You have up to 98% magic resist.~ 2% magic damage taken being incresed is not a big deal. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
I'm not sure if Spears or Blood is the better max | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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RuskiPanda
United States2906 Posts
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Jinxed
United States6450 Posts
Urn ags e-blade is best build. Dunk all day and never apologize. | ||
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LAN-f34r
New Zealand2099 Posts
On June 07 2013 11:26 Torte de Lini wrote: Huskar without regen until later seems really strange. That's why you get urn. Is spears worth maxing first now? Since they may actually be used, they seem like they could be very deadly in lane - since you don't get damage from passive anymore, is it worth it to max them so you can try to zone out the enemy rather than try to fight for last hits with average last hitting power? Is it still worth getting lifesteal early on? Or is ghost/halberd/damage higher priority now? I need to learn to type faster and/or say less. | ||
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RuskiPanda
United States2906 Posts
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
Interesting. | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
Now they might just be better in the early game compared to blood | ||
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LAN-f34r
New Zealand2099 Posts
Until now, ofc, where they don't face competition while ghost sceptred, and they have been buffed. | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
On June 07 2013 11:57 LAN-f34r wrote: Spears faces competition with lifesteal. On another hero they could have been quite powerful, but huskar works really well with lifesteal. Hence it was hard to justify losing +6 stats and delaying blood/heal for the sake of some laning power. Until now, ofc, where they don't face competition while ghost sceptred, and they have been buffed. 140 damage per spear is.. Pretty strong | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
People don't realize inner vitality is a horrible horrible spell until you have a decent strength base. Inner vitality: 2/4/6/8 base regen +5% from main attribute each level 15% from main attribute each level if under 40% 16 seconds. So each strength provides 19 hp. Each level of inner vitality will give .05 x 16 = .8 hp per strength. At level 6, huskar has a whopping 33 strength, at level 9 40. So at level 9, each point of inner vitality will provide .8 x 40 = 32 hp of regen from stats, and 2 x 16 = 32 hp regen from stats. Wow, a 64 hp heal for each level. Now if you're low hp, it goes up to 32 x 3 + 32 = 128 per level, which is ok, but you have to stay under 40% for the full 96 extra heal, and it (was) dangerous to be that low. At level 1, your have 21 base strength, so 25 x .8 = 20 hp heal from stats and 2 x 16 = 32 from base. But compare that to tranquil boots: 250 hp heal. That's better than level 4 heal uninjured, about the same as level 2 heal if you're below 40%. +3 hp per second, so in the 20 second heal, that's another 60 hp. You can't cast it as often, but your inner vit costs more than half your mana. Compare that to a tango: your level 1 heal is equal to 1/2 a tango. Wouldn't you skip a 1/2 mana pool level 1 skill if you could skip it with a 15 gold item per use? Compare that to warlock/omniknight heal: 360/405 hp at level 4 compared to 256 from unbooster inner vitality. Skilling inner vitality early means you choosing a vastly inferior skill at early game compared to other heroes over burning spears, and it also happens to be covered by cheap items? | ||
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