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Erasme
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34507 Posts
On June 07 2013 19:28 Mandini wrote: No man, you have to play lich for 50 games, then play lycan for like 200. No other heroes There was a bit of veno and enchantress in there somewhere... | ||
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Mithhaike
Singapore2759 Posts
On June 07 2013 19:44 Erasme wrote: You mean furion. Also a huskar in my team got doomed. NO FUCK GIVEN. He would regen faster than the dot at 10%hp berserker blood passive wasn't disabled by doom? ICEFRAUD NERF NAO. lol | ||
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Firebolt145
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hfglgg
Germany5372 Posts
On June 07 2013 19:27 -Celestial- wrote: Same with Lich. I know he's a popular newbie friendly hero but thats just it...Lich is way different to most heroes because he has an extremely easy time with mana right from the word go. Which teaches extremely bad habits about spell usage, one of the most important things to learn. Not to mention he basically has no teamfight utility after casting his ultimate (at least Tide has slow and is hard to kill so provides a distraction, Lich just gets gibbed) which means there's no real "experiencing teamfights". the idea with lich is not to let a newbie play him 50 times in a row. its an easy hero for the very first few games (like 2). meele heroes like tide are always a bit more difficult because they tend to get harrassed a lot and due to his low mana pool and the inability of new players to use clarities correctly leads to 2 gushs at level 1 and oom until level 12. the first games are to get the players used to the core mechanics like the shop. courier, turn rates / cast animations (they do feel like lag for a lot of players who come frome lol or other more modern games), unit selections and so on. after those introductionary couple of games, we always recommend randoming until they are good enough to understand every hero (which means they should play random for the next couple of years :D ). in the first 50 games or so we suggest repicking heroes like chen, meepo or invoker but new players should play a variety of heroes. | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
you have to learn where u go how on lane, that u dont auto attack etc. how to harrass etc. | ||
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Doomblaze
United States1292 Posts
On June 07 2013 01:51 Two_DoWn wrote: Anyone know of a really comprehensive Ench jungling guide? Preferably one that goes in depth on jungle mechanics as well as control tips. What do you need to know? Jungle enchant is pretty self explanatory. If you get a wildkin or satyr, you farm (or push). If you get a stomper or a troll you gank. Wait until the offlaner gets too far up then use the creeps spell and block him with the creep. If hes afk at tower smoke gank mid. If they're running a dual lane get a double kill. I'f theyre running an agressive tri you should be in their jungle and dive their solo short lane and kill that tower. If they're saccing the lane push the t1 and t2 towers with the siege creep and use your enchanted creeps to keep their wave behind the tower. Control groups are preference, keep your hero really far the fuck back because she has like 100 max hp and will die to any burst. | ||
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Firebolt145
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Tobberoth
Sweden6375 Posts
On June 07 2013 19:20 LAN-f34r wrote: Also, I wouldn't recommend lich to a LoL player. They will have a sort of game sense, but they need to adjust it. Engagement ranges are much larger in DotA, so I recommend that they use a blink dagger hero like tide to kind of learn that. They also need to learn mana management (because spamming spells has been hammered into them), so playing someone other than lich is good. I think lich is fine for lol players IF they mained support in Lol, because lich is very similar in the sense that lich is pretty much always played as a babysit support, you can play him more or less just like a LoL support and it works out. For players who played more carryish roles in LoL, I think lich is a bad idea. They will not do good with him, they will feel like he is ridiculously weak and boring to play. When I had my friend try dota from lol, he did terribly as lich... next game he played sand king solo suicide lane and owned it hard, simply because it fit better with Top in LoL which he has played a lot. It's very different and lots to learn, but the gamesense was there... he even got a double kill when the duo lane he was up against tried to dive him just as he got level 6. | ||
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LAN-f34r
New Zealand2099 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
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Mithhaike
Singapore2759 Posts
On June 07 2013 20:39 Kipsate wrote: If you get a Harpy send it out to the enemy mid lane and fuck him over. Like rox.kis went to fuck Dendi over lol. i was amused at that move | ||
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734pot
Australia294 Posts
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Slomo
Germany7198 Posts
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Fwizzz
Philippines4420 Posts
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On June 07 2013 20:28 Tobberoth wrote: I think lich is fine for lol players IF they mained support in Lol, because lich is very similar in the sense that lich is pretty much always played as a babysit support, you can play him more or less just like a LoL support and it works out. For players who played more carryish roles in LoL, I think lich is a bad idea. They will not do good with him, they will feel like he is ridiculously weak and boring to play. When I had my friend try dota from lol, he did terribly as lich... next game he played sand king solo suicide lane and owned it hard, simply because it fit better with Top in LoL which he has played a lot. It's very different and lots to learn, but the gamesense was there... he even got a double kill when the duo lane he was up against tried to dive him just as he got level 6. The first time i saw lich in dota and that his ult is the OG brand ult I was so happy because I realized I'll get more moments like these | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On June 07 2013 20:50 Slomo wrote: BTW: How did your east qualifier compendium predictions go? Anyone guessed Visage most picked? :D Mine was Mag most banned and naix most picked. Guess I was a bit wrong. | ||
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clusen
Germany8702 Posts
On June 07 2013 20:08 Firebolt145 wrote: There was a bit of veno and enchantress in there somewhere... How do you guys know the heroes I mostly played in the beginning :D | ||
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