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Jisall
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2054 Posts
June 05 2013 20:37 GMT
#60301
What is everybodies opinion on Earthshaker being the new counter to dark seer.

Team gets vacc'd into a wall. Enemy team runs up to beat the shit outa you.

Earth shaker Echo Slams in the middle of the wall, hitting all the illusions, enemy heros, and for all intensive purposes liquify the enemy team.
Monk: Because being a badass is more fun then playing a dude wearing a scarf.. ... Ite fuck it, Witch Doctor cuz I like killing stuff in a timely mannor.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
June 05 2013 20:39 GMT
#60302
Well, you need an aghanims for the illusions to matter more than random creeps.

Plus killing all those illusions mostly just is a 150 dmg nuke to your own team unless they got away from the wall fast enough (at which point you the ES is probably dead).

So basically nope. Dusa does that part much better.
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
June 05 2013 20:41 GMT
#60303
On June 06 2013 05:37 Jisall wrote:
What is everybodies opinion on Earthshaker being the new counter to dark seer.

Team gets vacc'd into a wall. Enemy team runs up to beat the shit outa you.

Earth shaker Echo Slams in the middle of the wall, hitting all the illusions, enemy heros, and for all intensive purposes liquify the enemy team.


It's tough for ES to get blink/arcanes in some games let alone an Aga. I assume you didn't realize the patch only effects aga ES.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 21:03:17
June 05 2013 21:03 GMT
#60304
On June 06 2013 05:41 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 05:37 Jisall wrote:
What is everybodies opinion on Earthshaker being the new counter to dark seer.

Team gets vacc'd into a wall. Enemy team runs up to beat the shit outa you.

Earth shaker Echo Slams in the middle of the wall, hitting all the illusions, enemy heros, and for all intensive purposes liquify the enemy team.


It's tough for ES to get blink/arcanes in some games let alone an Aga. I assume you didn't realize the patch only effects aga ES.

Apart from the turnrate buff + buff to fissure range.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 05 2013 21:07 GMT
#60305
Shaker's not particularly a counter to DS or anything--he's just a generally strong hero who's slightly hamstrung by Dota 2 bugs, but who is nonetheless starting to see play again anyway because his spells are just strong.

The pathing issues are likely not going to get fixed, but if they fix the Fissure click-targeting issue, it could rocket him to first round ban/pick status.
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Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
June 05 2013 21:13 GMT
#60306
Does global silence with aghs put cots on cooldown and if not can you stack 2 of them on enemies?
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
June 05 2013 21:14 GMT
#60307
On June 06 2013 06:13 Daray wrote:
Does global silence with aghs put cots on cooldown and if not can you stack 2 of them on enemies?

I believe you can stack them. 4 with refresher.
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
June 05 2013 22:08 GMT
#60308
caster version of anti mage
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
June 05 2013 22:18 GMT
#60309
The naix nerf is the best thing ever
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 05 2013 22:22 GMT
#60310
On June 06 2013 06:14 SKC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 06:13 Daray wrote:
Does global silence with aghs put cots on cooldown and if not can you stack 2 of them on enemies?

I believe you can stack them. 4 with refresher.

not sure why you would ever look to stack 4 when you could stack 3 and deal more dmaage. global curse ref curse wait til global about to expire and then global again. if it even stacks.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
June 05 2013 22:28 GMT
#60311
On June 06 2013 07:22 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 06:14 SKC wrote:
On June 06 2013 06:13 Daray wrote:
Does global silence with aghs put cots on cooldown and if not can you stack 2 of them on enemies?

I believe you can stack them. 4 with refresher.

not sure why you would ever look to stack 4 when you could stack 3 and deal more dmaage. global curse ref curse wait til global about to expire and then global again. if it even stacks.

Because it's funny to see people with 4 stacks. At least you are silencing even people that popped BKB to get out of the first on.e
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
June 05 2013 22:28 GMT
#60312
On June 06 2013 07:18 TheKefka wrote:
The naix nerf is the best thing ever

not unless you have support spiritbreaker.

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Daray
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
6006 Posts
June 05 2013 22:34 GMT
#60313
Watching Sing AA ult pudge who kills himself with rot... how does that ult even work rofl :D
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
June 05 2013 22:36 GMT
#60314
What's the best skillbuild for breaking spirits now?

I always used to max bash with alternating points in charge and haste for amazing level 6 kills. Maxing charge seems to do...nothing at all now, so that doesn't seem to be the answer.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 05 2013 22:48 GMT
#60315
On June 06 2013 07:36 TheTenthDoc wrote:
What's the best skillbuild for breaking spirits now?

I always used to max bash with alternating points in charge and haste for amazing level 6 kills. Maxing charge seems to do...nothing at all now, so that doesn't seem to be the answer.

you want 4 points in haste by the time you start grouping to take objectives. thats pretty much it.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
June 05 2013 23:07 GMT
#60316
On June 06 2013 07:36 TheTenthDoc wrote:
What's the best skillbuild for breaking spirits now?

I always used to max bash with alternating points in charge and haste for amazing level 6 kills. Maxing charge seems to do...nothing at all now, so that doesn't seem to be the answer.


The hero is about utilizing his crazy ganking power, farm your basic items and you go chasing people around the map. I always ask for bara swap just in case people go farming bara in my team >_<

Skill build is 0-1-1 at lvl2, and then max charge and bash, situationally you can you have even points in bash+haste but charge should always be maxed first. I used to max haste first on the old bara but after several changes it is just not worth it anymore.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 23:11:22
June 05 2013 23:10 GMT
#60317
On June 06 2013 08:07 BurningSera wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 07:36 TheTenthDoc wrote:
What's the best skillbuild for breaking spirits now?

I always used to max bash with alternating points in charge and haste for amazing level 6 kills. Maxing charge seems to do...nothing at all now, so that doesn't seem to be the answer.


The hero is about utilizing his crazy ganking power, farm your basic items and you go chasing people around the map. I always ask for bara swap just in case people go farming bara in my team >_<

Skill build is 0-1-1 at lvl2, and then max charge and bash, situationally you can you have even points in bash+haste but charge should always be maxed first. I used to max haste first on the old bara but after several changes it is just not worth it anymore.


I miss the free relic from old haste

tho I haven't played the new bara much
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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
June 05 2013 23:32 GMT
#60318
On June 06 2013 07:34 Daray wrote:
Watching Sing AA ult pudge who kills himself with rot... how does that ult even work rofl :D
credit goes to the damage instance that bring the hero to the %.
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SkelA
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Macedonia13086 Posts
June 05 2013 23:35 GMT
#60319
Anyone having problems with dota discing all the time? Just played a game where almost everyone got huge lags and disconnect every 2-3 minutes.
Stork and KHAN fan till 2012 ...
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
June 05 2013 23:43 GMT
#60320
Steam network went down, seems to be up again.
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