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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
June 05 2013 16:21 GMT
#60261
On June 06 2013 01:14 acidfreak wrote:
Is there a tournament mode option in place after the patch? What will Starladder and The Defense be played out on?


The tournament version also includes the 6.78 parity changes. They have to play on the new version.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
June 05 2013 16:22 GMT
#60262
On June 06 2013 01:19 Excludos wrote:
When did "12 hours" become ample sample size to determine how good a hero is?


Well, every hero except chen has over 20,000 matches played (with pudge up to almost 175,000) so thats a decent sample size.

Sure people will learn how to play with and against the new changes and winrates will change (potentially a lot), but we do have quite the sample size available already.
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teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 16:24:39
June 05 2013 16:24 GMT
#60263
20,000 matches is irrelevant if everyone has only played 1 match against it.

Give it a month.
Once you Goblak...
cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
June 05 2013 16:26 GMT
#60264
On June 06 2013 01:17 Sn0_Man wrote:
Broodmother, morph and mappo barely even felt their buffs (like 2% increase at the most, still basically 40% winrate on them all).

Turns out "not enough spiderlings" really wasn't broodmother's problem...

oh that was sopose to be a buff on brood ? guess they guy on my team who kept feeding the spiders to am didnt get the memo
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
June 05 2013 16:37 GMT
#60265
TBH the dust buff outweighs brood's buff IMO. Makes the hero even worse LOL.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
June 05 2013 16:53 GMT
#60266
It's part of Icefrog's "make heroes that are strong in 1v1 stronger at 1v1 but not at the actual game" agenda.

Kind of like the 6.75 OD buff.
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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
June 05 2013 17:09 GMT
#60267
Isn't that brood spiderling change a revert from an older nerf?
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
June 05 2013 17:11 GMT
#60268
On June 06 2013 02:09 Yoshi- wrote:
Isn't that brood spiderling change a revert from an older nerf?

Yes, from 6.72c
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
June 05 2013 17:12 GMT
#60269
On June 06 2013 01:26 cilinder007 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 01:17 Sn0_Man wrote:
Broodmother, morph and mappo barely even felt their buffs (like 2% increase at the most, still basically 40% winrate on them all).

Turns out "not enough spiderlings" really wasn't broodmother's problem...

oh that was sopose to be a buff on brood ? guess they guy on my team who kept feeding the spiders to am didnt get the memo

exactly what i thought when i saw the increase in spiderlings LOL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
June 05 2013 17:18 GMT
#60270
I wish Riki would see some quality Icefrog love...
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
June 05 2013 17:18 GMT
#60271
On June 06 2013 02:18 akatama wrote:
I wish Riki would see some quality Icefrog love...
#bringbackdeathward
Once you Goblak...
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
June 05 2013 17:19 GMT
#60272
Riki is already imba if you use him properly
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clusen
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany8702 Posts
June 05 2013 17:45 GMT
#60273
On June 06 2013 02:19 Qbek wrote:
Riki is already imba if you use him properly

Not imba, but a good pubstomper :p

Also a lot of fun cause you just need treads/oov/lvl 6 to go and kill shit
TheSubtleArt
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada2527 Posts
June 05 2013 17:54 GMT
#60274
BM spiders need to give less bounty X_X.
Dodge arrows
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
June 05 2013 17:58 GMT
#60275
On June 06 2013 02:54 TheSubtleArt wrote:
BM spiders need to give less bounty X_X.

Or get some more magic immunity
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toemn
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany915 Posts
June 05 2013 18:01 GMT
#60276
On June 06 2013 01:17 Sn0_Man wrote:
Broodmother, morph and mappo barely even felt their buffs (like 2% increase at the most, still basically 40% winrate on them all).

Turns out "not enough spiderlings" really wasn't broodmother's problem...



these heroes will never be above 50% for pub play.. a casual player will need atleast 50+ games with mapo to even grasp how this hero works in pubs. it's a bit like TA which is often played because people think refraction and invis = immortality but since all the nerfs mana mangement and micro became big hence the low winrate. brood would be viable if you could animation cancel for creepkills and denies. somehow it doesnt work when invis..
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
June 05 2013 18:05 GMT
#60277
On June 06 2013 03:01 toemn wrote:
brood would be viable if you could animation cancel for creepkills and denies. somehow it doesnt work when invis..

?

What exactly do you mean by this?
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
June 05 2013 18:06 GMT
#60278
yea it does lol
the problem is brood is worthless in teamfights and doesn't even push that fast
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
June 05 2013 18:06 GMT
#60279
On June 06 2013 03:05 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2013 03:01 toemn wrote:
brood would be viable if you could animation cancel for creepkills and denies. somehow it doesnt work when invis..

?

What exactly do you mean by this?

The silly stop command spamming way of lasthitting, which doesn't work when invis
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Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
June 05 2013 18:06 GMT
#60280
huh it works for me
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