On June 05 2013 22:05 Unleashing wrote:
But all of those heroes are super fun to play.
But all of those heroes are super fun to play.
lol ok,I guess I'm the odd one out here than
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
June 05 2013 13:08 GMT
#60221
On June 05 2013 22:05 Unleashing wrote: Show nested quote + On June 05 2013 22:00 TheKefka wrote: Personally only issue I have with icefrog is that he is pushing for shit like necrolyte,sk,tree to be viable.It's like,how does dota actually profit from these heros being good for cm.I don't understand.Imo it's fine having heros for "entry level" dota that are good to a certain point where people don't fully understand how the game is supposed to be played but eventually they figure it out and smile at the shit they thought was op.I get that's it's fair to want a niche spot for them,but with these constant buffs you are seriously pushing it.Trent and even necro are pretty fucking good for a while and the only reason we don't see them as much is because most people would rather cut their wrists than play them because of how boring it is.I'd rather see a complete rework than more buffs for them tbh. But all of those heroes are super fun to play. lol ok,I guess I'm the odd one out here than | ||
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
June 05 2013 13:11 GMT
#60222
Treant is boring as hell though ill agree. | ||
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Grettin
42416 Posts
June 05 2013 13:13 GMT
#60223
On June 05 2013 22:08 Unleashing wrote: Visual bug AFAIK, the 'arrow' that flies through an enemy can't hit anything. ty | ||
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Mithhaike
Singapore2759 Posts
June 05 2013 13:13 GMT
#60224
On June 05 2013 21:50 cecek wrote: I always assumed he stole the damage for some reason, lol. How does he jungle, btw? Stack camps and overwhelming odds them? Moment of Courage and Press the attack. Press the attack is a attack buff & heal all at once. Use it on Medium/Large camps for easy clearing. Moment of Courage = free attacks that does massive leech, what 80%? Its synergy with its Ultimate duel is insane. LC that has massive attacks and leeches 80% on some attacks? Yes please. Check out any youtube Legion Commander videos. Nearly all of them are jungling. Oh i was on Garena just doing doing Legion Commander scratched my itch. I love duel with Blademail activated. Take your own damage and mine please. It was a glorious day of slaughter. KS my own teammates for kills with Duel = free damage too. | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
June 05 2013 13:14 GMT
#60225
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Quotidian
Norway1937 Posts
June 05 2013 13:14 GMT
#60226
On June 05 2013 22:00 TheKefka wrote: Personally only issue I have with icefrog is that he is pushing for shit like necrolyte,sk,tree to be viable.It's like,how does dota actually profit from these heros being good for cm.I don't understand.Imo it's fine having heros for "entry level" dota that are good to a certain point where people don't fully understand how the game is supposed to be played but eventually they figure it out and smile at the shit they thought was op.I get that's it's fair to want a niche spot for them,but with these constant buffs you are seriously pushing it.Trent and even necro are pretty fucking good for a while and the only reason we don't see them as much is because most people would rather cut their wrists than play them because of how boring it is.I'd rather see a complete rework than more buffs for them tbh. he has to make as many heroes as possible viable, because watching the same 25 or so heroes picked/banned over and over and over in every pro games gets fucking boring. Ideally, every hero in the game should be a hero you could see in a pro game - otherwise they're just adding to the bloat of the game (which there is an insane amount of at the moment) | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
June 05 2013 13:15 GMT
#60227
"Necrolyte's new Aghanims ulty causes enemies killed with it, while carrying Aegis, to respawn in their fountain." "Batrider Sticky Napalm doesn't slow turnrate." | ||
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
June 05 2013 13:17 GMT
#60228
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
June 05 2013 13:17 GMT
#60229
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TheSubtleArt
Canada2527 Posts
June 05 2013 13:22 GMT
#60230
Also for those having Huskar problems id recommend picking void lol | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10953 Posts
June 05 2013 13:25 GMT
#60231
On June 05 2013 22:17 Asha` wrote: Necro is very fun, both to watch and play imo. He doesn't slow things down early on like Tree, and instead just adds a ton of sustain to fights which can make for some really cool engagements. Necrolyte has only one problem. At least 50% of the playerbase seem to think he's a support and therefore in turn think he sucks because they won't give him the 1-2 (or even 3) role... He's for sure not fun to play as a support ^^. He is extremly fun to play as a 1 against people that really seem to have no clue just how powerfull he gets when farmed up (shivas + heart or something :D)... | ||
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
June 05 2013 13:25 GMT
#60232
Do you think it's overall good for the game or not? On one hand, it's anther thing to play around, but on the other it's super counterintuitive. | ||
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Ryder.
1117 Posts
June 05 2013 13:29 GMT
#60233
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cecek
Czech Republic18921 Posts
June 05 2013 13:31 GMT
#60234
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Gheizen64
Italy2077 Posts
June 05 2013 13:33 GMT
#60235
User was warned for this post | ||
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Doomblaze
United States1292 Posts
June 05 2013 13:37 GMT
#60236
On June 05 2013 22:25 Velr wrote: Show nested quote + On June 05 2013 22:17 Asha` wrote: Necro is very fun, both to watch and play imo. He doesn't slow things down early on like Tree, and instead just adds a ton of sustain to fights which can make for some really cool engagements. Necrolyte has only one problem. At least 50% of the playerbase seem to think he's a support and therefore in turn think he sucks because they won't give him the 1-2 (or even 3) role... He's for sure not fun to play as a support ^^. He is extremly fun to play as a 1 against people that really seem to have no clue just how powerfull he gets when farmed up (shivas + heart or something :D)... *at least 90% of the player base. And hes a great support if all you need to do is use heal twice in a fight =) I don't understand how people can think hes a support when sadist says "gives you mana and hp when you KILL something" and scythe is "KILL something", like wow. Is he listed as support in the bullshit hero card things they have when you pick your hero? | ||
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Jetaap
France4814 Posts
June 05 2013 13:43 GMT
#60237
On June 05 2013 22:37 13_Doomblaze_37 wrote: Show nested quote + On June 05 2013 22:25 Velr wrote: On June 05 2013 22:17 Asha` wrote: Necro is very fun, both to watch and play imo. He doesn't slow things down early on like Tree, and instead just adds a ton of sustain to fights which can make for some really cool engagements. Necrolyte has only one problem. At least 50% of the playerbase seem to think he's a support and therefore in turn think he sucks because they won't give him the 1-2 (or even 3) role... He's for sure not fun to play as a support ^^. He is extremly fun to play as a 1 against people that really seem to have no clue just how powerfull he gets when farmed up (shivas + heart or something :D)... *at least 90% of the player base. And hes a great support if all you need to do is use heal twice in a fight =) I don't understand how people can think hes a support when sadist says "gives you mana and hp when you KILL something" and scythe is "KILL something", like wow. Is he listed as support in the bullshit hero card things they have when you pick your hero? People play him like a support because he heals people, and traditionnaly healers are support heroes (dazzle omni chen). Also it doesn't help that mek is somewhat of a core on him, as it is mostly seen as a support exclusive item. | ||
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
June 05 2013 13:48 GMT
#60238
I know they buff quite some time ago. He gained HP/mana for each creep killed or deny. And he gains a passive HP/MP generation??? | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
June 05 2013 14:00 GMT
#60239
I dont think he gets any flat boost for kills tho | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10953 Posts
June 05 2013 14:10 GMT
#60240
On June 05 2013 22:48 FakeDeath wrote: How does Sadist work? I know they buff quite some time ago. He gained HP/mana for each creep killed or deny. And he gains a passive HP/MP generation??? Yeah, he just gets more passive reg. +X per creep killed +XX per Hero killed. And it stacks... So it gets REALLY ridiculous... | ||
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