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Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 12:36:17
June 05 2013 12:35 GMT
#60201
Just watched Dread 6 slot medusa backed up by refresher agha omniknight =D

(also would anyone use a dedicated 6.78 build/strat/counter thread in the strat subforum or are people content just discussing stuff here?)
Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
June 05 2013 12:36 GMT
#60202
lol.. medusa is way too strong now. I really don't get why Ice Frog is hailed as such a genius. He looks like just another guy throwing shit on the wall in an attempt to see what sticks.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
June 05 2013 12:37 GMT
#60203
On June 05 2013 21:36 Quotidian wrote:
lol.. medusa is way too strong now. I really don't get why Ice Frog is hailed as such a genius. He looks like just another guy throwing shit on the wall in an attempt to see what sticks.

The genius is that more of his shit sticks than any other balance team
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icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
June 05 2013 12:37 GMT
#60204
On June 05 2013 21:36 Quotidian wrote:
lol.. medusa is way too strong now. I really don't get why Ice Frog is hailed as such a genius. He looks like just another guy throwing shit on the wall in an attempt to see what sticks.

i dont see how else he could improve the game. he's constantly adjusting the game.
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
June 05 2013 12:38 GMT
#60205
also when he never cleans up the old, moldy shit that the community has become attached to unlike most other balance teams.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Shalaiyn
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2735 Posts
June 05 2013 12:38 GMT
#60206
So all this talk about range finder being gone on Reddit...

+ Show Spoiler +
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I still have it...
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
June 05 2013 12:39 GMT
#60207
On June 05 2013 21:38 Shalaiyn wrote:
So all this talk about range finder being gone on Reddit...

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I still have it...

That's cause it's a bot game and cheats are enabled
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cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
June 05 2013 12:44 GMT
#60208
I need to play a game with Pudge + Silencer + Bounty Hunter + Legion Commander + 1. Imagine getting a kill and as a bonus you get permanent damage for LC, strength for Pudge, Intelligence for Silencer and Track gold. And the enemy loses permanent damage and int. :D
super gg
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
June 05 2013 12:46 GMT
#60209
U don't lose damage from Duel, only gain
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teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 12:53:11
June 05 2013 12:47 GMT
#60210
On June 05 2013 21:36 Quotidian wrote:
lol.. medusa is way too strong now. I really don't get why Ice Frog is hailed as such a genius. He looks like just another guy throwing shit on the wall in an attempt to see what sticks.
Which is why she was removed from CM. Icefrog often overbuffs to see if people can deal with it rather than just increment until the whole game becomes generic shit.

Icefrog has the reputation that he has because of what Dota used to be before he took over and what it is now. And because of how long it's been with Dota getting consistently better, and still have less complaints than pretty much every other game in the genre or in RTS as a whole.

Shit takes time, and sometimes you have to see how the community works with what you make. If Pudge was introduced today, people would say he's completely broken because no one would be used to playing against hook and he can deny himself constantly.
Once you Goblak...
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
June 05 2013 12:50 GMT
#60211
I always assumed he stole the damage for some reason, lol.

How does he jungle, btw? Stack camps and overwhelming odds them?
super gg
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 12:56:08
June 05 2013 12:55 GMT
#60212
So I just play Magnus.
And holy crap that ulti was nerfed a lot.

You can't do solo kill anymore during the early game.
Even Mag base dmg deals more than RP level 1.
Lolllll.

And Lifestealer just became meh.
I was SF mid and we wanted to gank huskar at mid
Realize that Lifestealer lost his 600 range slow initiation.
Lifestealer went wtf??????
People underestimate how big the range nerf affected on lifestealer.

And Huskar isn't OP.

Play your best
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 12:58:10
June 05 2013 12:56 GMT
#60213
People underestimate how big the range nerf affected on lifestealer.
On the Lumi+Aui patch analysis they said that was pretty much the biggest nerf in the patch. I don't think people underestimate it, it's undeniably a big deal.

It's well deserved though, you now have to actually kind of think about how to use Naix.
Once you Goblak...
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 13:03:33
June 05 2013 13:00 GMT
#60214
Personally only issue I have with icefrog is that he is pushing for shit like necrolyte,sk,tree to be viable.It's like,how does dota actually profit from these heros being good for cm.I don't understand.Imo it's fine having heros for "entry level" dota that are good to a certain point where people don't fully understand how the game is supposed to be played but eventually they figure it out and smile at the shit they thought was op.I get that's it's fair to want a niche spot for them,but with these constant buffs you are seriously pushing it.Trent and even necro are pretty fucking good for a while and the only reason we don't see them as much is because most people would rather cut their wrists than play them because of how boring it is.I'd rather see a complete rework than more buffs for them tbh.
Cackle™
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
June 05 2013 13:01 GMT
#60215
On June 05 2013 22:00 TheKefka wrote:
Personally only issue I have with icefrog is that he is pushing for shit like necrolyte,sk,tree to be viable.It's like,how does dota actually profit from these heros being good for cm.I don't understand.Imo it's fine having heros for "entry level" dota that are good to a certain point where people don't fully understand how the game is supposed to be played but eventually they figure it out and smile at the shit they thought was op.I get that's it's fair to want a niche spot for them,but with these constant buffs you are seriously pushing it.Trent and even necro are pretty fucking good for a while and the only reason we don't see them as much is because most people would rather cut their wrists than play them because of how boring it is.

I completely disagree.
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Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
June 05 2013 13:03 GMT
#60216
On June 05 2013 22:00 TheKefka wrote:
Personally only issue I have with icefrog is that he is pushing for shit like necrolyte,sk,tree to be viable.It's like,how does dota actually profit from these heros being good for cm.I don't understand.Imo it's fine having heros for "entry level" dota that are good to a certain point where people don't fully understand how the game is supposed to be played but eventually they figure it out and smile at the shit they thought was op.I get that's it's fair to want a niche spot for them,but with these constant buffs you are seriously pushing it.Trent and even necro are pretty fucking good for a while and the only reason we don't see them as much is because most people would rather cut their wrists than play them because of how boring it is.


why oon earth do some people think that necro is boring? I get it for Tree, who turns from really fun until the like 15 min mark to really boring really fast, but Necro is just a fun hero to play once in a while :O
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
June 05 2013 13:05 GMT
#60217
On June 05 2013 22:00 TheKefka wrote:
Personally only issue I have with icefrog is that he is pushing for shit like necrolyte,sk,tree to be viable.It's like,how does dota actually profit from these heros being good for cm.I don't understand.Imo it's fine having heros for "entry level" dota that are good to a certain point where people don't fully understand how the game is supposed to be played but eventually they figure it out and smile at the shit they thought was op.I get that's it's fair to want a niche spot for them,but with these constant buffs you are seriously pushing it.Trent and even necro are pretty fucking good for a while and the only reason we don't see them as much is because most people would rather cut their wrists than play them because of how boring it is.I'd rather see a complete rework than more buffs for them tbh.

But all of those heroes are super fun to play.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 13:05:51
June 05 2013 13:05 GMT
#60218
I'd say I disagree but I'm not sure what the point is.

Necrolyte plays the same as he has for like 8 years. Sadist changed to regen instead of straight up mana. Nothing else has really changed with the hero.

Tree used to just be a ward bitch. (which is the version I loved, but it was hardly an exciting hero)

SK is now easier to play if anything. Having no skills doesn't make a hero easier.
Once you Goblak...
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
June 05 2013 13:07 GMT
#60219
Is it normal that Miranas arrow goes through if you are close combat and you "hit" with it? Several times happened during last match, it did deal damage i think tho.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
June 05 2013 13:08 GMT
#60220
Visual bug AFAIK, the 'arrow' that flies through an enemy can't hit anything.
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