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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 09:34:25
June 05 2013 09:34 GMT
#60161
On June 05 2013 18:29 cecek wrote:
It's magical to both the target and himself.

But did he really lose that much dps?
The attack speed he's getting now is way more than before. From 3->12 to 8->20. It probably doesn't fully compensate for the damage lost, but I don't think it's enough to justify forgoing lifesteal for burning spears. Especially since physical damage (and pure, w/e) is the only way to kill him on low levels, so lifestealing seems even more valuable now.

I think I'd be going phaseboots, urn, helm of dom, armlet, aghanims now. Not sure about the agha, it's sweet on paper, but 'm not sure if it's really worth the money.

Aghanims is superior to armlet unless you are rushing armlet. past a few items aghanims is better. and he lost a lot of his farming ability his early damage is almost gone now except through burning spears. later on you can grab items like heart,satanic,mkb or AC to help him out a bunch, but Aghanims is definitely core, whether or not you get it before armlet depends on whether or not you want that very fast armlet to help push/farm or the aghs to kill people and win teamfights. usually the aghs is gonna be stronger especially in pubs. and then late game it should be obvious aghanims is better.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 09:54:27
June 05 2013 09:54 GMT
#60162
I'm not convinced. The +10 int and 150 mana is completely worthless. So you're paying 4k gold for 10 str, 10 agi and 200hp and the ability to use the ult more often. I don't think that's good, personally.
super gg
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
June 05 2013 09:56 GMT
#60163
Husk loves the attack speed due to his low BAT.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
tauon
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Australia1278 Posts
June 05 2013 10:05 GMT
#60164
On June 05 2013 18:56 Unleashing wrote:
Husk loves the attack speed due to his low BAT.

Attack speed gives diminishing returns the more you stack. So building Huskar with additional attack speed isn't necessarily correct.
Road to 6sange
Kazzoo
Profile Joined October 2010
France368 Posts
June 05 2013 10:05 GMT
#60165
On June 05 2013 19:05 tauon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 18:56 Unleashing wrote:
Husk loves the attack speed due to his low BAT.

Attack speed gives diminishing returns the more you stack. So building Huskar with additional attack speed isn't necessarily correct.

Still awesome on huskar. He benefits from it so much.

Well, for the shitty hero he is...
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
June 05 2013 10:06 GMT
#60166
Uh, i didn't talk about building him with additional attack speed.
He now gets 8 more attack speed for each stack of beserkers blood.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
June 05 2013 10:15 GMT
#60167
On June 05 2013 18:34 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 18:29 cecek wrote:
It's magical to both the target and himself.

But did he really lose that much dps?
The attack speed he's getting now is way more than before. From 3->12 to 8->20. It probably doesn't fully compensate for the damage lost, but I don't think it's enough to justify forgoing lifesteal for burning spears. Especially since physical damage (and pure, w/e) is the only way to kill him on low levels, so lifestealing seems even more valuable now.

I think I'd be going phaseboots, urn, helm of dom, armlet, aghanims now. Not sure about the agha, it's sweet on paper, but 'm not sure if it's really worth the money.

Aghanims is superior to armlet unless you are rushing armlet. past a few items aghanims is better. and he lost a lot of his farming ability his early damage is almost gone now except through burning spears. later on you can grab items like heart,satanic,mkb or AC to help him out a bunch, but Aghanims is definitely core, whether or not you get it before armlet depends on whether or not you want that very fast armlet to help push/farm or the aghs to kill people and win teamfights. usually the aghs is gonna be stronger especially in pubs. and then late game it should be obvious aghanims is better.

Using his ult that much without an armlet seems like bad news bears to me. Even though you have increased survivability in this patch, you're still pretty vulnerable, and without damage is it even useful to have a 4 second cooldown?
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
June 05 2013 10:33 GMT
#60168
I'm surprised so many people are whining about the range indicator being gone. I think it's about damn time.
https://soundcloud.com/papercranesdk
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
June 05 2013 10:39 GMT
#60169
Wonder if today's matches will be played on the latest patch.
Once you Goblak...
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 10:47:52
June 05 2013 10:44 GMT
#60170
Eh i tried huskar before i slept last night, that crazy magic immune stuff made me giggle in the end. We won the game because they keep aiming me in mid-late game but RP+any burst from them literally couldnt hurt me at all lol. Since we were behind in that game, I got crit first before armlet (the thinking is simply able to ditch out as much as damage possible before i die and team can clean them up) and then I dropped a ghost scepter+hood on him, the hero survived after eating everything LOL

The great thing about the new huskar is that BurningSpear is actually viable to max it before lvl25 now. And you have a better timing for getting bkb since you dont actually need it in every game now, you cant die from one disable or one big burst from the enemies now lol (with lvl4 passive). Totally viable to run him as a second core in comp games i reckon.

On June 05 2013 19:33 Testuser wrote:
I'm surprised so many people are whining about the range indicator being gone. I think it's about damn time.


Love the subtle nerf to bulldog lol
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
June 05 2013 10:57 GMT
#60171
I remember when console commands were bugged(I believe he used them to buy items) and he couldn't buy a Blink Dagger, he had to buy 2 vit boosters on Magnus

or something ridicilous like that.
WriterXiao8~~
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
June 05 2013 10:58 GMT
#60172
You can buy items with console commands?
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
June 05 2013 10:59 GMT
#60173
On June 05 2013 19:39 teapoted wrote:
Wonder if today's matches will be played on the latest patch.


Why wouldn't they play the latest? Asking just out of curiosity.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 11:00:55
June 05 2013 11:00 GMT
#60174
On June 05 2013 19:58 Yoshi- wrote:
You can buy items with console commands?

It was something like that, I can't recall correctly. It had something to do with console commands bugging his buying interface.
WriterXiao8~~
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 11:06:41
June 05 2013 11:06 GMT
#60175
On June 05 2013 19:59 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 19:39 teapoted wrote:
Wonder if today's matches will be played on the latest patch.


Why wouldn't they play the latest? Asking just out of curiosity.
Well it's been done before to give teams some time considering they've not been able to practice on the patch at all.
Once you Goblak...
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
June 05 2013 11:11 GMT
#60176
On the other hand aren't most of the matches online league match X or Y followed by Z so I don't think its the biggest deal, maybe for D2l.
WriterXiao8~~
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
June 05 2013 11:12 GMT
#60177
Yeah well to me it doesn't make a whole lot of sense that heroes are held out of CM for a week but a major patch isn't.

As long as the teams are fine with it then it doesn't really matter.
Once you Goblak...
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
June 05 2013 11:13 GMT
#60178
I hope we get right into it. I want to see the new stuff. On the other hand, there's quite a number of bugs from the changes, so it might not be the best idea to do it.
super gg
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
June 05 2013 11:15 GMT
#60179
I agree cecek!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 11:24:48
June 05 2013 11:19 GMT
#60180
I agree I'd like to see the new patch, but that doesn't mean it's the right way to do it.
Once you Goblak...
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