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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
June 05 2013 07:31 GMT
#60141
thanks. Well, sounds painful.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
June 05 2013 07:53 GMT
#60142
ya no more leveling spears 22-25 anymore that shit is ownage
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
DeathProfessor
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1052 Posts
June 05 2013 07:59 GMT
#60143
Ya I guess people have been saying lifestealer been nerfed big time. This one guy I played against may have found a build, it was fucking sick. He soloed 2v1 full health at level 11, leveled to 25 when most others were level 21. The thing is the guy just virtually cannot die with all that life gain, of course we killed him when Queen of Pain ultimate was up, I was playing Omni and guy ran for me all the time, slowed me I try to fight off, ends up getting me every time lol I am serious I went 12 deaths and about 9 were lifesteal just right clicking the shit outta me.

Thats my QQ maybe this should have been QQ thread but JS lifestealer may be a lot better than was thought.
DeathProfessor
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1052 Posts
June 05 2013 08:02 GMT
#60144
Also Omniknight is a very cute hero when he has scepter but he takes forever to get there and he is still so useless I mean I get being a defensive guy but he is almost no damage. Dunno, seems like they could have a little extra maybe a damage shield that hurts melee or something like a mass taunt so you can do better farm.
Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 08:18:42
June 05 2013 08:06 GMT
#60145
fuck im getting 400+ pings for no reason

Edit: Im liking the timbersaw buffs. Been playing him and not losing.
Belisarius
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia6233 Posts
June 05 2013 08:09 GMT
#60146
I'm still waiting to see an omni+weaver+x trilane. Purify onto shukuchi is just ownage, and weaver loves repel later as well.
Autotroph
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom940 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 08:21:49
June 05 2013 08:15 GMT
#60147
On June 05 2013 12:39 SKC wrote:
Time to combo Medusa and Gyro for the ultimate aoe physical damage team into petrified targets.

Also, does turn rate slow stack?


Not such a good idea as calldown is magical damage and petrified units have 100% magic res...

I realise now you were prolly talking about flak cannon.
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Pseudoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1279 Posts
June 05 2013 08:16 GMT
#60148
On June 05 2013 16:59 DeathProfessor wrote:
Ya I guess people have been saying lifestealer been nerfed big time. This one guy I played against may have found a build, it was fucking sick. He soloed 2v1 full health at level 11, leveled to 25 when most others were level 21. The thing is the guy just virtually cannot die with all that life gain, of course we killed him when Queen of Pain ultimate was up, I was playing Omni and guy ran for me all the time, slowed me I try to fight off, ends up getting me every time lol I am serious I went 12 deaths and about 9 were lifesteal just right clicking the shit outta me.

Thats my QQ maybe this should have been QQ thread but JS lifestealer may be a lot better than was thought.


Repel to remove open wounds...... Plus he does 0 dmg when you use ult.
Logic fails because we are lazy.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 08:23:37
June 05 2013 08:23 GMT
#60149
The loss of farming power and physical damage-dealing ability on Berserker's Blood completely changed Huskar's role. He can't easily farm a crazy item advantage, nor is he even as strong lategame with those items as he used to be. Actually leveling Spears with Agha and Ghost Scepter and generally defensive-focused items (e.g. Halberd) seems like the direction the hero should go now.
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 05 2013 08:30 GMT
#60150
On June 05 2013 17:23 TheYango wrote:
The loss of farming power and physical damage-dealing ability on Berserker's Blood completely changed Huskar's role. He can't easily farm a crazy item advantage, nor is he even as strong lategame with those items as he used to be. Actually leveling Spears with Agha and Ghost Scepter and generally defensive-focused items (e.g. Halberd) seems like the direction the hero should go now.

I like urn+medallion early on for him, but yeah aghanims is too damn strong on husk.
Percutio
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1672 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 08:32:23
June 05 2013 08:31 GMT
#60151
On June 05 2013 17:23 TheYango wrote:
The loss of farming power and physical damage-dealing ability on Berserker's Blood completely changed Huskar's role. He can't easily farm a crazy item advantage, nor is he even as strong lategame with those items as he used to be. Actually leveling Spears with Agha and Ghost Scepter and generally defensive-focused items (e.g. Halberd) seems like the direction the hero should go now.

He is also a much better support assassin because 4 spears is easily a dead or useless support with all that damage. Not to mention the majority of supports can't defend themselves from him well at all.

Armlet and Ghost Scepter I've found to be great. Ghost scepter with all that magic resistance can work like a pseudo BKB when you are down to minimum armlet health.
What does it matter how I loose it?
yyfpulls
Profile Joined November 2012
United States2185 Posts
June 05 2013 08:38 GMT
#60152
oh my god Medusa ult is so strong now. Insane counter-initiation if you have 2+ damage dealers.
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
June 05 2013 08:39 GMT
#60153
On June 05 2013 17:31 Percutio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 17:23 TheYango wrote:
The loss of farming power and physical damage-dealing ability on Berserker's Blood completely changed Huskar's role. He can't easily farm a crazy item advantage, nor is he even as strong lategame with those items as he used to be. Actually leveling Spears with Agha and Ghost Scepter and generally defensive-focused items (e.g. Halberd) seems like the direction the hero should go now.

He is also a much better support assassin because 4 spears is easily a dead or useless support with all that damage. Not to mention the majority of supports can't defend themselves from him well at all.

Armlet and Ghost Scepter I've found to be great. Ghost scepter with all that magic resistance can work like a pseudo BKB when you are down to minimum armlet health.


So Spear+Berserker blood & 1 point rejuv builds for Huskar? Items Urn/Medallion -> Armlet -> Ghost Sceptor? Can i fit a HoTD in there?
Mew Mew Pew Pew
yyfpulls
Profile Joined November 2012
United States2185 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 08:46:00
June 05 2013 08:43 GMT
#60154
I think you need aghs somewhere because you really don't do that much dps anymore. Gone are the days where huskar would solo like 3 heroes at 5% hp. He can't farm jungles/ancients for shit now too so you're really limited farm wise.
Percutio
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1672 Posts
June 05 2013 09:03 GMT
#60155
Spears are good dps and 65 damage armlet is still insane dps with the increased attack speed.
What does it matter how I loose it?
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 05 2013 09:18 GMT
#60156
On June 05 2013 17:39 Mithhaike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 05 2013 17:31 Percutio wrote:
On June 05 2013 17:23 TheYango wrote:
The loss of farming power and physical damage-dealing ability on Berserker's Blood completely changed Huskar's role. He can't easily farm a crazy item advantage, nor is he even as strong lategame with those items as he used to be. Actually leveling Spears with Agha and Ghost Scepter and generally defensive-focused items (e.g. Halberd) seems like the direction the hero should go now.

He is also a much better support assassin because 4 spears is easily a dead or useless support with all that damage. Not to mention the majority of supports can't defend themselves from him well at all.

Armlet and Ghost Scepter I've found to be great. Ghost scepter with all that magic resistance can work like a pseudo BKB when you are down to minimum armlet health.


So Spear+Berserker blood & 1 point rejuv builds for Huskar? Items Urn/Medallion -> Armlet -> Ghost Sceptor? Can i fit a HoTD in there?

switch out armlet for Aghs and thats pretty much what i'd consider best on husk.
lazyitachi
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
1043 Posts
June 05 2013 09:22 GMT
#60157
Isnt Huskar Ulti HP removal on current HP? Then shouldn't the Berserker Blood do nothing in terms of reducing the damage to himself?
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
June 05 2013 09:25 GMT
#60158
On June 05 2013 18:22 lazyitachi wrote:
Isnt Huskar Ulti HP removal on current HP? Then shouldn't the Berserker Blood do nothing in terms of reducing the damage to himself?

nope. burning spears is hp removal though.
lazyitachi
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
1043 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-05 09:28:34
June 05 2013 09:28 GMT
#60159
wow.. i have reading comprehension issues.. :S

that means life break so good.. I BELIEVE I CAN FLY all day!
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
June 05 2013 09:29 GMT
#60160
It's magical to both the target and himself.

But did he really lose that much dps?
The attack speed he's getting now is way more than before. From 3->12 to 8->20. It probably doesn't fully compensate for the damage lost, but I don't think it's enough to justify forgoing lifesteal for burning spears. Especially since physical damage (and pure, w/e) is the only way to kill him on low levels, so lifestealing seems even more valuable now.

I think I'd be going phaseboots, urn, helm of dom, armlet, aghanims now. Not sure about the agha, it's sweet on paper, but 'm not sure if it's really worth the money.
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