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hfglgg
Germany5372 Posts
On May 31 2013 16:34 RuskiPanda wrote: I think the only thing that would solve is people pregame dodging pro/well-known player pub stacks. well sometimes i get so infuriated by a player that if i get him again in the next matches i just troll the shit out of him. so for me that would definately help :/ | ||
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Whole
United States6046 Posts
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MotherOfRunes
Germany2862 Posts
On May 31 2013 16:46 Whole wrote: Do you guys think this would be viable strategy with the new Doom buff? A pro team realized the other team is likely going to do a 4 protect 1 or some strat that only involves one late game damage dealer, so they get an aggressive carry that can be ran mid (Gyro?) and then put Doom in a defensive tri-lane as a position 2 farming up Drums -> Phase -> Rod of Atos -> Aghs and just having the Doom try to sit on their 1 core. Also, if someone is building Doom like so, should they go Rod of Atos or Aghs first. well i wouldnt go atos if you wanna do this. go straig ht agha and pure survivability afterwards (heart/cuirass etc.) othwise they can shut u down too easy. atos is also not need since scorched earth+phase boots is enough to chase em and u wanna get ur agha really fast... also atos plus agha = mana/intelligence overkill | ||
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maru~
2345 Posts
On May 31 2013 16:46 Whole wrote: Do you guys think this would be viable strategy with the new Doom buff? A pro team realized the other team is likely going to do a 4 protect 1 or some strat that only involves one late game damage dealer, so they get an aggressive carry that can be ran mid (Gyro?) and then put Doom in a defensive tri-lane as a position 2 farming up Drums -> Phase -> Rod of Atos -> Aghs and just having the Doom try to sit on their 1 core. Also, if someone is building Doom like so, should they go Rod of Atos or Aghs first. Phase -> Drums -> Point Booster/Platemail -> Platemail/Point Booster -> Agha -> Shiva's Armor is very important on Doom. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 31 2013 16:25 synapse wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/1a5rtx/yasha_vs_hyperstone_on_tiny/c8ufdex Here's aui2k's take on AC vs manta and why AC is bad compared to other possible lategame carry items. Personally I prefer going hyperstone->daedalus->mjollnir->bfly if I just need damage and manta->bfly->daedalus if I need more survivability. Much of his assessment is based on the assumption that the AC auras are not that valuable because someone else can buy Vlad's for the armor aura or someone else can get an AC to give the rest. While this may be true in certain teamcomps in an organized setting, in pubs it is 1) not always true that pubs will buy those team items for your team, and 2) even if they want to, you still may be the most appropriate AC holder on a team that makes good use of AC. In which case, AC may still be the better pickup for your team. Mathematically he's right that it's personal DPS is weak for Tiny, but when 1-2 other carries are in the picture (who more often than not, either can't or won't buy AC), it becomes harder to say that AC is worse. I feel the scenarios he posits for AC being bad tend to be somewhat far-fetched for pub games (someone else buying Vlad's, other carries that can use AC buying AC for you). Not to mention Vlad's stacks with AC next patch so the Vlad's argument becomes invalid. | ||
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Existential
Australia2107 Posts
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Fatalize
France5210 Posts
On May 31 2013 17:10 Existential wrote: Are games not counting for anyone else? Every game I play doesn't go into match history. No exp or drops for anyone either? I can't even log on, so I guess the servers crashed. HOW SURPRISING | ||
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MotherOfRunes
Germany2862 Posts
On May 31 2013 17:06 maru~ wrote: Phase -> Drums -> Point Booster/Platemail -> Platemail/Point Booster -> Agha -> Shiva's Armor is very important on Doom. i would rather go cuirass then shivas since it would be aswell an intelligence overkill and it also increases ur own dps, u dont wanna rely purely on doom for your dps. also it increases ur teams dps. if u still have problems tanking after agha heart cuirass, for example vs really heavy physicala dps when they run mb a 1 pos carry AND a naix, then u can mb go for a shivas afterwards edit: he gave a gyro in your team as an example, so going cuirass would would make gyro and his flak cannon a very very happy pilot ^^ | ||
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Jukei
France114 Posts
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maru~
2345 Posts
On May 31 2013 17:26 MotherOfRunes wrote: i would rather go cuirass then shivas since it would be aswell an intelligence overkill and it also increases ur own dps, u dont wanna rely purely on doom for your dps. also it increases ur teams dps. if u still have problems tanking after agha heart cuirass, for example vs really heavy physicala dps when they run mb a 1 pos carry AND a naix, then u can mb go for a shivas afterwards edit: he gave a gyro in your team as an example, so going cuirass would would make gyro and his flak cannon a very very happy pilot ^^ I think the active is quite undervalued though. It would also help to stay on the doomed target. The mana is overkill, but it's not that bad, Doom uses quite a bit of mana actually. AC is a fine choice as well of course. I think at some point you would want to get both anyway (unless someone else goes AC). | ||
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Alexc26
United Kingdom222 Posts
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NIIINO
Slovakia1320 Posts
On May 31 2013 17:36 Jukei wrote: I used to always do the phase - drum - yasha - aghs on carry tiny, and it's great if you dominate, but you're really squishy on some situations. I have more success lately going straight tread aghs or tread drum aghs and farming another big item fast (crit ftw). It just seems more stable. You need good lane farm though. Once I got free farm = fast shadowblade, they had no idea what killed them. What do you thing about boots of travel ? I just start buying it a lot on carry. | ||
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Dead9
United States4725 Posts
also lothars tiny isn't nearly as good as blink tiny. it's like lothars on magnus why would you ever want to do that usually after that it's aghs/bkb/manta in any order > ac/crit/mom/heart/w.e early mom is fun too i think aui is talking about ac before manta, which i agree with. manta's much better than ac on tiny; the movespeed is amazing and the illusions are really strong | ||
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Mandini
United States1717 Posts
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Testuser
6469 Posts
On May 31 2013 18:20 Dead9 wrote: i like bottle wand treads blink, i think blink is way too good to skip in pubs also lothars tiny isn't nearly as good as blink tiny. it's like lothars on magnus why would you ever want to do that usually after that it's aghs/bkb/manta in any order > ac/crit/mom/heart/w.e early mom is fun too i think aui is talking about ac before manta, which i agree with. manta's much better than ac on tiny; the movespeed is amazing and the illusions are really strong just go for that 12 min agh #yolo | ||
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Fwizzz
Philippines4420 Posts
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Grettin
42416 Posts
On May 31 2013 19:11 Fwizzz wrote: So Tobi will not be casting Dreamhack. #GDstudioproductionvalue I'm not surprised. | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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cupoftealove
325 Posts
Production value is one thing, but having a good live commentator who can hype up the crowd is another. Tobi is still the best when it comes to this. I hope GDStudio/DH are bringing in another play by play guy, maybe Ayesee or one of the BTS guys to replace him. | ||
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BlitzerSC
Italy8800 Posts
On May 31 2013 19:27 cupoftealove wrote: Production value is one thing, but having a good live commentator who can hype up the crowd is another. Tobi is still the best when it comes to this. I hope GDStudio/DH are bringing in another play by play guy, maybe Ayesee or one of the BTS guys to replace him. Maybe Tobi is the best for you, but I know a lot of people who think differently. Me included. Personally right now I prefer BTS over Tobi, for example. | ||
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