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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-29 18:16:58
May 29 2013 18:16 GMT
#58921
On May 30 2013 03:14 Kupon3ss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 03:11 Comeh wrote:
On May 30 2013 03:09 Excludos wrote:
On May 30 2013 03:05 Jetaap wrote:
On May 30 2013 02:59 NB wrote:
On May 30 2013 02:40 Kupon3ss wrote:
the key to IXDL is to ladder strategically, remember that IXDL only looks are winrates and Valve's MMR evaluation will make u lose more points when losing games you're "supposed to win". Basically, if you throw as much as possible when realize that you have competent teammates and play normally otherwise you will obtain the WINRATEDBRTMESPORTSPOINTSELO required for IXDL

wait what? I dont get the Valve mmr part. What does it has to do with ixdl?

They have a silly requirement that you need a 55% winrate on matchamking to get into IXDL


That has to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Winratio has absolutely nothing to do with mmr. You can have a verry high (as in an actually very high, not the bracket "very high") mmr, and still only 50%, or even below. It all depends on which matches you win and lose, and not directly how many.

Look at Firebolt145 for example.


Firebolt was vouched into IXDL due to recognition of his pro skills by known players despite a 48% winrate on ladder

Thus showing how silly the requirement is...

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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
May 29 2013 18:18 GMT
#58922
Don't forget that in my first and only ixdl game I went on to save ixmike from certain death and also become EE-approved(tm). All on stream too.
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
May 29 2013 18:19 GMT
#58923
The standards for getting into IXDL are pretty stupid. The whole vouch thing is dumb because people just vouch their horrible friends. I know tons of people who are vouched and aren't even page 1-10 players. And the 55% thing is dumb because of the massive amount of guys with 200 game smurfs that have 55%, which isn't very impressive.
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Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8279 Posts
May 29 2013 18:24 GMT
#58924
On May 30 2013 03:19 TheEmulator wrote:
The standards for getting into IXDL are pretty stupid. The whole vouch thing is dumb because people just vouch their horrible friends. I know tons of people who are vouched and aren't even page 1-10 players. And the 55% thing is dumb because of the massive amount of guys with 200 game smurfs that have 55%, which isn't very impressive.


Exctly this. A much smarter system would be a minimum game count (not stupidly high, just to stop smurfs. maybe 1000?), a certain number of games in very high bracket, and common sense.

Vouching is about the most abusable system there is, and 55% winratio doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
May 29 2013 18:28 GMT
#58925
On May 30 2013 03:24 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 03:19 TheEmulator wrote:
The standards for getting into IXDL are pretty stupid. The whole vouch thing is dumb because people just vouch their horrible friends. I know tons of people who are vouched and aren't even page 1-10 players. And the 55% thing is dumb because of the massive amount of guys with 200 game smurfs that have 55%, which isn't very impressive.


Exctly this. A much smarter system would be a minimum game count (not stupidly high, just to stop smurfs. maybe 1000?), a certain number of games in very high bracket, and common sense.

Vouching is about the most abusable system there is, and 55% winratio doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

Technically the 55% winratio only becomes valid if you have 200 minimum games, so that loophole is already plugged.
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-29 18:32:09
May 29 2013 18:31 GMT
#58926
Ideally when you have two leagues one open, one invite only, you mandate players to compete in the open league and those at the top 10% of the league at the end of the season get invited into the invite league. so that the only way to get into the league is to be invited by the founder (ONLY) or place in top 10% of open league.
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
May 29 2013 18:34 GMT
#58927
ded league ded game

there probably isnt any one system that isnt open to abuse of some kind
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
May 29 2013 18:34 GMT
#58928
Inhouse leagues like IXDL have a very limited and specific lifespan.

Starts off great, then goes to shit, like every inhouse league in existence.

Case in point, do people even remember c9dl anymore?
secret - never again
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-29 18:39:23
May 29 2013 18:38 GMT
#58929
On May 30 2013 03:34 Klonere wrote:
ded league ded game

there probably isnt any one system that isnt open to abuse of some kind

yeah you have to maintain a base in the open league. which is moderately difficult to do. but with valve API you can probably just auto make the stats for a site and do everything like that (mandating you allow the API gathering to be in the league).

most open leagues go to hell eventually, but winning consistently gets you out of that hell and into the invite league.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28103 Posts
May 29 2013 18:42 GMT
#58930
On May 30 2013 03:28 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 03:24 Excludos wrote:
On May 30 2013 03:19 TheEmulator wrote:
The standards for getting into IXDL are pretty stupid. The whole vouch thing is dumb because people just vouch their horrible friends. I know tons of people who are vouched and aren't even page 1-10 players. And the 55% thing is dumb because of the massive amount of guys with 200 game smurfs that have 55%, which isn't very impressive.


Exctly this. A much smarter system would be a minimum game count (not stupidly high, just to stop smurfs. maybe 1000?), a certain number of games in very high bracket, and common sense.

Vouching is about the most abusable system there is, and 55% winratio doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

Technically the 55% winratio only becomes valid if you have 200 minimum games, so that loophole is already plugged.

That's the problem. 55% after 200 games is ez if you don't solo queue.
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Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
May 29 2013 18:43 GMT
#58931
maybe this new guild system will help ihs be a bit more...substantive? not sure though

still i think we all have to give mike props for putting in the work to the client, site and league itself
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
May 29 2013 18:48 GMT
#58932
On May 30 2013 03:42 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 03:28 Firebolt145 wrote:
On May 30 2013 03:24 Excludos wrote:
On May 30 2013 03:19 TheEmulator wrote:
The standards for getting into IXDL are pretty stupid. The whole vouch thing is dumb because people just vouch their horrible friends. I know tons of people who are vouched and aren't even page 1-10 players. And the 55% thing is dumb because of the massive amount of guys with 200 game smurfs that have 55%, which isn't very impressive.


Exctly this. A much smarter system would be a minimum game count (not stupidly high, just to stop smurfs. maybe 1000?), a certain number of games in very high bracket, and common sense.

Vouching is about the most abusable system there is, and 55% winratio doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

Technically the 55% winratio only becomes valid if you have 200 minimum games, so that loophole is already plugged.

That's the problem. 55% after 200 games is ez if you don't solo queue.


its ez when u solo queue and random every game as well
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
May 29 2013 18:59 GMT
#58933
are notes released for this weeks patch yet
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
May 29 2013 19:01 GMT
#58934
On May 30 2013 03:59 FinestHour wrote:
are notes released for this weeks patch yet

I believe its c# b g# f# e e e e e e# e# e e

:D points for those who get the joke.
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
May 29 2013 19:04 GMT
#58935
is it some horrible house music

sounds like it
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
May 29 2013 19:08 GMT
#58936
i played piano for ten years and i dont understand that
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
May 29 2013 19:09 GMT
#58937
why are you such an awful pianist.
wairai
Profile Joined May 2012
Malaysia1000 Posts
May 29 2013 19:11 GMT
#58938
http://www.gosugamers.net/dota2/features/3262-chuan-basically-we-will-play-whatever-they-arrange

they are out of form so badly.

though is it true that ACE banned big 3 from entering small tourney?
Yungin' Leanin' with Pourple Drink
Whole
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States6046 Posts
May 29 2013 19:11 GMT
#58939
What's so special about the IXDL? People post about wanting to be in it and then others post about it being pointless. So why do people care about it in the first place?
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
May 29 2013 19:14 GMT
#58940
On May 30 2013 04:11 Whole wrote:
What's so special about the IXDL? People post about wanting to be in it and then others post about it being pointless. So why do people care about it in the first place?

standard doto. people like being in the newest IHL.
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