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MrCon
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ch33psh33p
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On May 27 2013 23:15 Excludos wrote: I'm really surprised this is taking so long to fix. I guess its because the bear counts as a creep and not a hero, but it shouldn't be that difficult to have a flag that checks if armlet is on "creep - bear". The HP regen allows you to keep a full hp bear way more often than you could normally, and in general prolongs survivability of the bear. The AS lets you hit more on towers and get more roots, and in general, it makes bear fucking bullshit right now. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
Now he is strong in all stages of the game, before he used to have a weaker stage. | ||
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Infernal_dream
United States2359 Posts
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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Excludos
Norway8279 Posts
On May 27 2013 23:46 TheYango wrote: The spells actually have no unit-targeting behavior. Any of those spells that were both unit- and ground-targetable in DotA 1 are always treated as ground-targeting in DotA 2. Even if you unit-target them, they're treated as ground-targeting the location where the hero was when you cast. This is only really observable with the spells that have longer cast animations (e.g. Earthshaker's Fissure) or when a hero with Blink is involved. If you move quickly or blink during the cast animation, in DotA 1 a unit-targeted cast would track the hero through the cast animation and still land, while in DotA 2, it always casts at the location where the hero was at the beginning of the cast animation. This bug is actually part of why Earthshaker is seen a lot less in DotA 2 than DotA 1. Fissure always being treated as ground-targeting is a very significant nerf to the hero. Then why in the world are these two spells blocked by linkens? If they are ground target, they should go through linkens, like all other ground target spells. | ||
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Darkren
Canada1841 Posts
When u loose its especially fun. What it looks like Rager: U MOTHERFUCKER WHY DIDNT U DO THAT, WHY DID U SKILL X, WHY THAT ITEM, LOOK AROUND U, FUCK IM DEAD, U USELESS DIPSHT. Me: Why are u this angry, how is your life going, how was that possibly my fault, hahahahhhahha, their coming for u......... and ur dead. | ||
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Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
On May 28 2013 03:19 Excludos wrote: Then why in the world are these two spells blocked by linkens? If they are ground target, they should go through linkens, like all other ground target spells. Coz linkens is a shit item anyways | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On May 28 2013 03:17 SKC wrote: It's likely IceFrog is considering it. The way it worked in Dota 1 made no sense and is probally a bug noone really cared about, it wasn't an engine limitation or something like that. If he decides on removing armlet bear it would make more sense to completelly disallow it instead of bringing it to parity to Dota 1. He had to explicitly code the bear version of the armlet the way it is. If he wanted full functionality for Armlet on the bear it could have been that way from the start. | ||
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Comeh
United States18919 Posts
On May 23 2013 00:57 Yoshi- wrote: Sniper with blink and shrapnel is like a better sk AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAND + Show Spoiler + Na'Vi reads teamliquid. | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On May 28 2013 03:50 TheYango wrote: He had to explicitly code the bear version of the armlet the way it is. If he wanted full functionality for Armlet on the bear it could have been that way from the start. AFAIK the issue is that the bear has the courier version, and for some reason it is missing the attack speed. The item removing even the base attack speed when activated, meaning it loses attack speed, is not something I think he would purposelly code for. I think it's more likely he just made a mistake, but since it's the courier version it didn't really matter, and since noone built it for the bear anyway it could have passed "bug detection" for several versions. The item acts in a very illogical way in Dota 1. If the item was Armlet (bear) I can see him having to do it on purpose. Since whoever tested the bug said it's armlet (courier), that's not necessarily true. He worried about the stats that matter in the courier, but attack speed is not one of them. Here's the bug report thread: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=83611 | ||
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Testuser
6469 Posts
What, what, what?! they used my build`!!?!??!?!?!? | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On May 28 2013 04:00 Testuser wrote: What, what, what?! they used my build`!!?!??!?!?!? Dendi actually did. He was going for MoM as a follow up. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Testuser
6469 Posts
On May 28 2013 04:01 SKC wrote: Dendi actually did. He was going for MoM as a follow up. SHIIIIIIIT!! Which game? Any vod? | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
On May 28 2013 04:02 TheYango wrote: The bear uses the non-Courier hero versions for other items. If Icefrog wanted the bear to benefit from the full bonuses for this item, he wouldn't have even bothered to make the bear use the courier edition for just this item. Which can mean he just doesn't want the armlet to be used activated on the bear. It doesn't have to mean he wants it to work as it does in Dota 1, losing the attack speed bonus. The bear using the courier version of this item may also be a mistake. I don't think we know enough to say how it works in Dota 1 HAS to be exactly how he wants it to work. The huge amount of time it's taking for them to "fix" it also makes me doubt that, since it's just a game changing "bug". But it's Valve, so we never know. There were beta versions where you could Devour the fontain or the neutral heroes tavern could spawn in a neutral camp, meaning you could buy more heroes. Dota has had some incredible bugs, I wouldn't put this one past it. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
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Grettin
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vs QPAD, Starladder i think. Nothing worth watching. (3-standins for QPAD, including James.  ) | ||
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SKC
Brazil18828 Posts
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cilinder007
Slovenia7251 Posts
On May 28 2013 04:04 SKC wrote: Which can mean he just doesn't want the armlet to be used activated on the bear. It doesn't have to mean he wants it to work as it does in Dota 1, losing the attack speed bonus. The bear using the courier version of this item may also be a mistake. I don't think we know enough to say how it works in Dota 1 HAS to be exactly how he wants it to work. The huge amount of time it's taking for them to "fix" it also makes me doubt that, since it's just a game changing "bug". But it's Valve, so we never know. There were beta versions where you could Devour the fontain or the neutral heroes tavern could spawn in a neutral camp, meaning you could buy more heroes. Dota has had some incredible bugs, I wouldn't put this one past it. were russians at least cheaper ? + Show Spoiler + I joke, no bans pls | ||
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