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Gheizen64
Profile Joined June 2010
Italy2077 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-27 11:52:48
May 27 2013 11:52 GMT
#58501
On May 27 2013 20:41 DoNotDisturb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 19:51 Firebolt145 wrote:
On May 27 2013 19:28 nojok wrote:
We got stomped but I was in good mood and told our silencer and naix to stop raging, it was not the international 3 final. NAix answered rage is one of his skill. It made me laugh.

edit : and versus a linken I used click on the ground stun from SK and it still pops linken, I used to think it did not

Linkens blocks some spells that one would assume are AoE, such as ES's Fissure and SK's Burrowstrike.

Yay for Dota, game of exceptions.


I wish they'd fix that shit already, I miss burrowstriking behind people who have Linken's


It's intentional iirc. Personally i'd prefer if both those spells weren't unit-targetable anymore and treated units like ground targeting, so Linken would never trigger in both cases, but the item is pretty shitty already so mb icefraud isn't interested.

EDIT: also bottlecrow isn't getting nerfed like that, it's something subtler.
Seen as G.ZZZ [COPPER SCUM] on Steam
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
May 27 2013 13:14 GMT
#58502
Wait is Armlet Bear finally fixed?????????
Play your best
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
May 27 2013 13:14 GMT
#58503
No
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-27 14:03:30
May 27 2013 14:03 GMT
#58504
Weppas playing for qpad in their games today, lmfao.
QPAD.2GD coming up next
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42416 Posts
May 27 2013 14:10 GMT
#58505
On May 27 2013 23:03 Unleashing wrote:
Weppas playing for qpad in their games today, lmfao.
QPAD.2GD coming up next


On May 26 2013 22:09 Grettin wrote:
James and Weppas will join them. Ultimate team.


Nailed it! :p
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
ch33psh33p
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
7650 Posts
May 27 2013 14:13 GMT
#58506
On May 27 2013 18:33 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 17:54 FinestHour wrote:
i can confirm that it has not been stealth nerfed

LOL. NEVERMIND.

Guy activated it on the hero and then gave it to the bear, it looks active but doesn't give the dmg. ggnore.


Just so you know, the fix isn't about the damage, if it ever happens.

The parity difference is that Bear is receiving additional HP regen and AS, which he isn't supposed to.

The damage is standard across Dota2 and Dota 1.
secret - never again
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8279 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-27 14:15:56
May 27 2013 14:15 GMT
#58507
On May 27 2013 23:13 ch33psh33p wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 18:33 r.Evo wrote:
On May 27 2013 17:54 FinestHour wrote:
i can confirm that it has not been stealth nerfed

LOL. NEVERMIND.

Guy activated it on the hero and then gave it to the bear, it looks active but doesn't give the dmg. ggnore.


Just so you know, the fix isn't about the damage, if it ever happens.

The parity difference is that Bear is receiving additional HP regen and AS, which he isn't supposed to.

The damage is standard across Dota2 and Dota 1.


I'm really surprised this is taking so long to fix. I guess its because the bear counts as a creep and not a hero, but it shouldn't be that difficult to have a flag that checks if armlet is on "creep - bear".
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-27 14:47:00
May 27 2013 14:46 GMT
#58508
On May 27 2013 20:52 Gheizen64 wrote:
It's intentional iirc. Personally i'd prefer if both those spells weren't unit-targetable anymore and treated units like ground targeting, so Linken would never trigger in both cases, but the item is pretty shitty already so mb icefraud isn't interested.

EDIT: also bottlecrow isn't getting nerfed like that, it's something subtler.

The spells actually have no unit-targeting behavior. Any of those spells that were both unit- and ground-targetable in DotA 1 are always treated as ground-targeting in DotA 2. Even if you unit-target them, they're treated as ground-targeting the location where the hero was when you cast.

This is only really observable with the spells that have longer cast animations (e.g. Earthshaker's Fissure) or when a hero with Blink is involved. If you move quickly or blink during the cast animation, in DotA 1 a unit-targeted cast would track the hero through the cast animation and still land, while in DotA 2, it always casts at the location where the hero was at the beginning of the cast animation.

This bug is actually part of why Earthshaker is seen a lot less in DotA 2 than DotA 1. Fissure always being treated as ground-targeting is a very significant nerf to the hero.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34507 Posts
May 27 2013 15:02 GMT
#58509
Someone rename the Dota 2 Strategy section to 'The Ask Yango Section'
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Gheizen64
Profile Joined June 2010
Italy2077 Posts
May 27 2013 15:07 GMT
#58510
On May 27 2013 23:46 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2013 20:52 Gheizen64 wrote:
It's intentional iirc. Personally i'd prefer if both those spells weren't unit-targetable anymore and treated units like ground targeting, so Linken would never trigger in both cases, but the item is pretty shitty already so mb icefraud isn't interested.

EDIT: also bottlecrow isn't getting nerfed like that, it's something subtler.

The spells actually have no unit-targeting behavior. Any of those spells that were both unit- and ground-targetable in DotA 1 are always treated as ground-targeting in DotA 2. Even if you unit-target them, they're treated as ground-targeting the location where the hero was when you cast.

This is only really observable with the spells that have longer cast animations (e.g. Earthshaker's Fissure) or when a hero with Blink is involved. If you move quickly or blink during the cast animation, in DotA 1 a unit-targeted cast would track the hero through the cast animation and still land, while in DotA 2, it always casts at the location where the hero was at the beginning of the cast animation.

This bug is actually part of why Earthshaker is seen a lot less in DotA 2 than DotA 1. Fissure always being treated as ground-targeting is a very significant nerf to the hero.


I meant that in the sense that i'd like them not to be blocked by linken ever, because in dota1 they're blocked in a case and not in another, while in dota2 they're always blocked while to me it make more sense to be never blocked because you never target a "unit" but the ground where that unit is.

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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 27 2013 15:31 GMT
#58511
just watched dread's stream when suddenly, german music :D
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
May 27 2013 15:41 GMT
#58512
Do you guys sometimes lose motivation or just get bored playing dota(even tough you're winning)? Been having this feeling for awhile now.
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
May 27 2013 15:48 GMT
#58513
On May 28 2013 00:41 Fwizzz wrote:
Do you guys sometimes lose motivation or just get bored playing dota(even tough you're winning)? Been having this feeling for awhile now.

try team matchmaking
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Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
May 27 2013 15:52 GMT
#58514
On May 28 2013 00:41 Fwizzz wrote:
Do you guys sometimes lose motivation or just get bored playing dota(even tough you're winning)? Been having this feeling for awhile now.


You're just playing too much. I have this happen all the time to games I play because I play them so much for a month and then don't touch them again for a month or two.
Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-27 16:18:58
May 27 2013 16:17 GMT
#58515
^Maybe you're right. Been playing dota for 6 years.


On May 28 2013 00:48 icystorage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 00:41 Fwizzz wrote:
Do you guys sometimes lose motivation or just get bored playing dota(even tough you're winning)? Been having this feeling for awhile now.

try team matchmaking


got only 1 friend who plays dota2 the same time as i am.

Maybe the new patch would help.
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
May 27 2013 16:22 GMT
#58516
On May 28 2013 00:41 Fwizzz wrote:
Do you guys sometimes lose motivation or just get bored playing dota(even tough you're winning)? Been having this feeling for awhile now.

I do but than I build rapiers on panda and it's k again
Cackle™
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
May 27 2013 16:29 GMT
#58517
On May 28 2013 00:31 teddyoojo wrote:
just watched dread's stream when suddenly, german music :D

This one time when I was watching a fpvod from some high ranked chinese player he started to listen to german and swedish polka music. That was REALLY unexpected hah!
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
May 27 2013 16:38 GMT
#58518
On May 28 2013 00:41 Fwizzz wrote:
Do you guys sometimes lose motivation or just get bored playing dota(even tough you're winning)? Been having this feeling for awhile now.


I really do, especially when a Pudge loses mid lane to a SF after Chen camped his lane for two kills.

+ Show Spoiler +
Ninja QQ :D:D
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
May 27 2013 16:48 GMT
#58519
On May 28 2013 00:41 Fwizzz wrote:
Do you guys sometimes lose motivation or just get bored playing dota(even tough you're winning)? Been having this feeling for awhile now.

Go Euls + Blink on every hero, it's a worse puck "phase-blink" escape.
리노크 👑
Fwizzz
Profile Joined May 2012
Philippines4420 Posts
May 27 2013 17:03 GMT
#58520
^ LOL

There was a time where I tried to build mjolnir on every hero. twas fun :D
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