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On April 07 2013 17:43 DrPandaPhD wrote:
The day where Gem of Truesight actually has truesight and makes illusions blue, I wont hate PL as much. It wont even affect other Illu heroes that much tbh.
"tbh" it will, CK uses his ult? Oh well at least every hero on the other team knows exactly which CK to stun/kill, completely mitigating the majority of damage that would have happened otherwise.
What an awful thing to say
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On April 07 2013 19:18 ReignSupreme. wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 17:43 DrPandaPhD wrote:
The day where Gem of Truesight actually has truesight and makes illusions blue, I wont hate PL as much. It wont even affect other Illu heroes that much tbh. "tbh" it will, CK uses his ult? Oh well at least every hero on the other team knows exactly which CK to stun/kill, completely mitigating the majority of damage that would have happened otherwise. What an awful thing to say
man fuck CK but my poor naga siren will be even weaker 
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On April 07 2013 17:43 DrPandaPhD wrote:
The day where Gem of Truesight actually has truesight and makes illusions blue, I wont hate PL as much. It wont even affect other Illu heroes that much tbh.
actually it would important for single target disables, especially guinsoo. that would be an interesting idea actually, except afaik its not possible to do in warcraft 3 (or just extremely hard to script)
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Making an item to completely nullify half the point of the items like manta and illu rune and all other illus creation spells? Just remove PL instead.
How can people hate X hero is beyond me lol Every hero is unique and fun to play with.
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On April 07 2013 19:35 rabidch wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 17:43 DrPandaPhD wrote:
The day where Gem of Truesight actually has truesight and makes illusions blue, I wont hate PL as much. It wont even affect other Illu heroes that much tbh. actually it would important for single target disables, especially guinsoo. that would be an interesting idea actually, except afaik its not possible to do in warcraft 3 (or just extremely hard to script)
Why would it be that hard?
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On April 07 2013 19:45 Erandorr wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 19:35 rabidch wrote:On April 07 2013 17:43 DrPandaPhD wrote:
The day where Gem of Truesight actually has truesight and makes illusions blue, I wont hate PL as much. It wont even affect other Illu heroes that much tbh. actually it would important for single target disables, especially guinsoo. that would be an interesting idea actually, except afaik its not possible to do in warcraft 3 (or just extremely hard to script) Why would it be that hard?
i dunno? blue illusions are for allied/yourself, how would you propose making that visible for enemies? i mean a "dummy" enemy illusion or something...
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On April 07 2013 19:44 BurningSera wrote:
Making an item to completely nullify half the point of the items like manta and illu rune and all other illus creation spells? Just remove PL instead.
How can people hate X hero is beyond me lol Every hero is unique and fun to play with.
Making an item that completely nullifies the point of items like lothars and invis rune and all other invis spells? Just remove Riki instead.
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On April 07 2013 19:44 BurningSera wrote:
Making an item to completely nullify half the point of the items like manta and illu rune and all other illus creation spells? Just remove PL instead.
How can people hate X hero is beyond me lol Every hero is unique and fun to play with.
yes but PL is not fun to play against, ever
not saying making illusions blue is a good thing, pl just needs a bit of a nerf
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On April 07 2013 19:48 rabidch wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 19:45 Erandorr wrote:On April 07 2013 19:35 rabidch wrote:On April 07 2013 17:43 DrPandaPhD wrote:
The day where Gem of Truesight actually has truesight and makes illusions blue, I wont hate PL as much. It wont even affect other Illu heroes that much tbh. actually it would important for single target disables, especially guinsoo. that would be an interesting idea actually, except afaik its not possible to do in warcraft 3 (or just extremely hard to script) Why would it be that hard? i dunno? blue illusions are for allied/yourself, how would you propose making that visible for enemies? i mean a "dummy" enemy illusion or something...
Given how many sources of True Sight there are and how they function differently, that could be really weird and buggy.
I mean, technically DotA 1 has enemy-visible illusions from DS ulti, but having them convert between the "normal" and "enemy-visible" state upon gaining/losing true sight without having something get lost in between would be really weird.
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Finding server for ten minutes -.-
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On April 07 2013 19:44 BurningSera wrote:
Making an item to completely nullify half the point of the items like manta and illu rune and all other illus creation spells? Just remove PL instead.
How can people hate X hero is beyond me lol Every hero is unique and fun to play with.
illusions have been (near) imbalanced in dota since the beginning of allstars. every illusion hero has been heavily used (or extremely viable) in the meta at some point in time
naga
terrorblade
phantom lancer
spectre
ck
morphling
dark seer
shadow demon
and this isnt even the list of heroes that have benefited from the existence of manta
a mechanic like revealing illusions would be a very interesting addition to the game since it would drastically change how illusions are balanced
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How many times has manta been nerfed
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Server seems unstable lately.
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On April 07 2013 20:03 Itsmedudeman wrote:
How many times has manta been nerfed
Well up until the 6.60 rework (when it got changed from Diffusal+Vit Booster to Yasha+Ultimate Orb), it got quite a fair number of buffs along the way. Since then 3 times (incidentally, all the same way--increase recipe cost while decreasing Yasha cost).
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On April 07 2013 19:49 cilinder007 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 19:44 BurningSera wrote:
Making an item to completely nullify half the point of the items like manta and illu rune and all other illus creation spells? Just remove PL instead.
How can people hate X hero is beyond me lol Every hero is unique and fun to play with. yes but PL is not fun to play against, ever not saying making illusions blue is a good thing, pl just needs a bit of a nerf
Is getting oneshot by Kunkka fun? What about perma stunned by troll? 5man RP'd by Mag? Hooked by pudge and eaten!?
I don't think getting pwned by any hero is fun. Every hero has a strength and a weakness, the moment you start nerfing those strengths heroes lose their charm&uniqueness.
PL is a problem if your team never buys a gem and lets him farm whole game. Even if you shutdown PL early it's not enough, you have to keep him in the mud whole game it's just how the hero is.
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On April 07 2013 19:50 Animzor wrote:
Finding server for ten minutes -.-
yeah.. wtf.. same for me.. sweden here too.. no idea whats going on
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On April 07 2013 19:49 cilinder007 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 19:44 BurningSera wrote:
Making an item to completely nullify half the point of the items like manta and illu rune and all other illus creation spells? Just remove PL instead.
How can people hate X hero is beyond me lol Every hero is unique and fun to play with. yes but PL is not fun to play against, ever not saying making illusions blue is a good thing, pl just needs a bit of a nerf
The beauty of DotA is that everything is imbalanced in it's own way and nothing is fun to play against if the other side is plain better than you.
I highly prefer that over the "watering down" that's common in pretty much any other modern multiplayer game.
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It looks like they have a lot of server problems.
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On April 07 2013 20:26 Andr3 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 19:49 cilinder007 wrote:On April 07 2013 19:44 BurningSera wrote:
Making an item to completely nullify half the point of the items like manta and illu rune and all other illus creation spells? Just remove PL instead.
How can people hate X hero is beyond me lol Every hero is unique and fun to play with. yes but PL is not fun to play against, ever not saying making illusions blue is a good thing, pl just needs a bit of a nerf Is getting oneshot by Kunkka fun? What about perma stunned by troll? 5man RP'd by Mag? Hooked by pudge and eaten!? I don't think getting pwned by any hero is fun. Every hero has a strength and a weakness, the moment you start nerfing those strengths heroes lose their charm&uniqueness. PL is a problem if your team never buys a gem and lets him farm whole game. Even if you shutdown PL early it's not enough, you have to keep him in the mud whole game it's just how the hero is.
pl is usually just split push split push split push split push split push split push split push split push split push split push split push split push split push split push split push split push split push split push split push split push split push split push split push split push split push all game long which makes playing against/with/as PL really lame
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On April 07 2013 20:49 zezamer wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2013 20:26 Andr3 wrote:On April 07 2013 19:49 cilinder007 wrote:On April 07 2013 19:44 BurningSera wrote:
Making an item to completely nullify half the point of the items like manta and illu rune and all other illus creation spells? Just remove PL instead.
How can people hate X hero is beyond me lol Every hero is unique and fun to play with. yes but PL is not fun to play against, ever not saying making illusions blue is a good thing, pl just needs a bit of a nerf Is getting oneshot by Kunkka fun? What about perma stunned by troll? 5man RP'd by Mag? Hooked by pudge and eaten!? I don't think getting pwned by any hero is fun. Every hero has a strength and a weakness, the moment you start nerfing those strengths heroes lose their charm&uniqueness. PL is a problem if your team never buys a gem and lets him farm whole game. Even if you shutdown PL early it's not enough, you have to keep him in the mud whole game it's just how the hero is. pl is usually just split push split push split push split push split push split push split push split push split push split push split push split push split push split push split push split push split push split push split push split push split push split push split push split push split push all game long which makes playing against/with/as PL really lame
What about AM, full items no fun, same split push shit, easier to use/farm and harder to gank/die due to blink.
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