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Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
March 25 2013 09:55 GMT
#49001
On March 25 2013 18:46 flamewheel wrote:
Aight kids, math quiz time. Percentage chance of proccing lightning with 6 mjollnirs.


82.2% I think?
Gheizen64
Profile Joined June 2010
Italy2077 Posts
March 25 2013 10:08 GMT
#49002
Should i sell the chest of rarities right now or do you think it will go up? Probably no though.
Seen as G.ZZZ [COPPER SCUM] on Steam
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
March 25 2013 10:13 GMT
#49003
You could either sell it now, or you could wait like a year for when it stops dropping and the value might go up. I'd just sell it now though.

Also on the topic of 6 mjollnirs: http://dotabuff.com/matches/154028058
Not quite 6, but still, confirmed for very viable build.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
March 25 2013 10:16 GMT
#49004
On March 25 2013 18:46 flamewheel wrote:
Aight kids, math quiz time. Percentage chance of proccing lightning with 6 mjollnirs.


Which lightning are we talking about?

rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 10:22:24
March 25 2013 10:21 GMT
#49005
On March 25 2013 18:51 Canas wrote:
I don't know, the AM nerfs really aren't all that big, and there were a few heroes that are pretty good vs AM, NS and beastmaster immediately come to mind.

PL is just full blown cancer though.

those are soft counters, and it took more coordination to bring down AM then (without no. 2 most annoying hero DS), unless AM's team was really that useless.

and by early beta i mean around the start of NDA lift to february
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
March 25 2013 10:26 GMT
#49006
Speaking of antimage vs PL. Rebroadcast of DK vs. LGD where Burning is on PL and Sylar is on AM.
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
March 25 2013 10:29 GMT
#49007
Well obviously, there's a reason why AM had like a 70% winrate at the first international, but still, in early beta pub play, there were ways to deal with AM, while if you're playing vs PL kotl right now, it feels a lot harder to actually do anything about it on your own. In my opinion at least.

I think I'd rather play vs AM back then, than vs PL kotl now. PL on his own is debatable, still really fucking annoying to play against a lot of the time.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 10:33:27
March 25 2013 10:31 GMT
#49008
The era is different. PL is strong in a time where there's lots of viable carries and lots of heroes who have good carry shutdown potential like batrider. I don't think PL is stronger than AM back then, there's no fucking way. At least now if either AM or PL is turtle farming then if you have at least 1 good viable carry you're still in the game. I was more so referring to some time before the international 2 era. I just hate dealing with PL's early game and late game.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
March 25 2013 10:33 GMT
#49009
On March 25 2013 18:55 Canas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2013 18:46 flamewheel wrote:
Aight kids, math quiz time. Percentage chance of proccing lightning with 6 mjollnirs.


82.2% I think?

Correct you win a cookie

On March 25 2013 19:08 Gheizen64 wrote:
Should i sell the chest of rarities right now or do you think it will go up? Probably no though.

Decrease sell now
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
March 25 2013 10:36 GMT
#49010
On March 25 2013 19:31 Itsmedudeman wrote:
The era is different. PL is strong in a time where there's lots of viable carries and lots of heroes who have good carry shutdown potential like batrider. I don't think PL is stronger than AM back then, there's no fucking way. At least now if either AM or PL is turtle farming then if you have at least 1 good viable carry you're still in the game. I was more so referring to some time before the international 2 era. I just hate dealing with PL's early game and late game.

Pretty much back then we were looking at a 1.35 BAT with sexcellent Blink animation AM. Also highest base movespeed at the time (no CK or Luna yet). Fastest-attacking hero, best position-altering (Blink) animation as a skill, and fastest-moving hero. Only hero that was comparable lategame was Void, and that pretty much meant getting rolled over in the mid-late game when AM was 1.5 items ahead. Pushing style wasn't in vogue, and there weren't too many strong Blink-disabling spells. No Lycan, no Naga net, few natural Blink chasers (no Batrider).
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 25 2013 10:41 GMT
#49011
On March 25 2013 19:36 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2013 19:31 Itsmedudeman wrote:
The era is different. PL is strong in a time where there's lots of viable carries and lots of heroes who have good carry shutdown potential like batrider. I don't think PL is stronger than AM back then, there's no fucking way. At least now if either AM or PL is turtle farming then if you have at least 1 good viable carry you're still in the game. I was more so referring to some time before the international 2 era. I just hate dealing with PL's early game and late game.

Pretty much back then we were looking at a 1.35 BAT with sexcellent Blink animation AM. Also highest base movespeed at the time (no CK or Luna yet). Fastest-attacking hero, best position-altering (Blink) animation as a skill, and fastest-moving hero. Only hero that was comparable lategame was Void, and that pretty much meant getting rolled over in the mid-late game when AM was 1.5 items ahead. Pushing style wasn't in vogue, and there weren't too many strong Blink-disabling spells. No Lycan, no Naga net, few natural Blink chasers (no Batrider).

pushing style was still very strong since dota2 was predominantly western. but people dont want to play chen/enchantress in pubs

and this is purely AM vs PL. kotl by himself is an insanely strong (and easy) hero and people forget that
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
March 25 2013 10:43 GMT
#49012
Didn't batrider get ported like 3 weeks after the NDA was lifted? No one played him for ages though.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
March 25 2013 10:44 GMT
#49013
Batrider was very different(And much worse) than his dota1 counterpart for ages though :/
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 25 2013 10:45 GMT
#49014
On March 25 2013 19:43 Canas wrote:
Didn't batrider get ported like 3 weeks after the NDA was lifted? No one played him for ages though.

because he was crap in dota2, bad animations and initially had many bugs that sapped how much damage he actually did
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 10:46:45
March 25 2013 10:45 GMT
#49015
Isn't he still though? I'm honestly not sure, never played bat all that much.

Oh, I didn't know he was riddled with bugs back then
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
March 25 2013 10:46 GMT
#49016
Nah, most of it was fixed IIRC. He can still get frostbitten though, but bat have been improved massively compared to release.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
March 25 2013 11:03 GMT
#49017
On March 25 2013 19:33 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2013 18:55 Canas wrote:
On March 25 2013 18:46 flamewheel wrote:
Aight kids, math quiz time. Percentage chance of proccing lightning with 6 mjollnirs.


82.2% I think?

Correct you win a cookie

To be very precise, 82.2021484375% chance
EZ4ENCE
Provocateur
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden1665 Posts
March 25 2013 12:02 GMT
#49018
On March 25 2013 20:03 WindWolf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2013 19:33 flamewheel wrote:
On March 25 2013 18:55 Canas wrote:
On March 25 2013 18:46 flamewheel wrote:
Aight kids, math quiz time. Percentage chance of proccing lightning with 6 mjollnirs.


82.2% I think?

Correct you win a cookie

To be very precise, 82.2021484375% chance

Should definitely be core on every hero with a decent agi gain then ;D
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
March 25 2013 12:19 GMT
#49019
On March 25 2013 21:02 Provocateur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2013 20:03 WindWolf wrote:
On March 25 2013 19:33 flamewheel wrote:
On March 25 2013 18:55 Canas wrote:
On March 25 2013 18:46 flamewheel wrote:
Aight kids, math quiz time. Percentage chance of proccing lightning with 6 mjollnirs.


82.2% I think?

Correct you win a cookie

To be very precise, 82.2021484375% chance

Should definitely be core on every hero with a decent agi gain then ;D


Core on Sing's WD.
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
March 25 2013 12:22 GMT
#49020
Abulldog should start pokemon wifi battling.His politoed would quickly become a thing of legends.
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