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Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
March 25 2013 02:50 GMT
#48981
On March 25 2013 11:25 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2013 10:09 Nevuk wrote:
On March 25 2013 09:52 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On March 25 2013 09:48 Excludos wrote:
On March 25 2013 02:12 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On March 25 2013 01:54 Torte de Lini wrote:
I think I'm going to quit playing Meepo now.
Gave it about 15 games or so a try. I can farm acceptably, but too many heroes just wreck through me.

I wish his slow slowed attack speed and poof was not BKB-blockable ):

Don't quit playing him. Just try to pick him when it's actually a good time to do so. (Fuck nyx, srsly)


There is never a good time to play meepo. Even if you play him perfectly (which is near impossible in itself), he's still only a "meh" hero. I have yet to see any progamers pick him and win (excluding some matches where they'd won 4v5 anyways. Also, if you could prove me wrong with a vod I'd be a happy man).


notail played him for fnatic in a very nice match. I don't remember which game it was though or I'd find the vod for you. Splitpush with furion/meepo.

He played him vs Baguette and Virtus.pro

Virtus pro match



That..was..beautiful. Never realized the amazing synergi between meepo and np :D Still tho, that requires incredible amounts of awareness and teamwork, and also some luck in the pick phase. I don't think you can play like that in pubs.


Can play that way or if solo queue, can try variations but it still works. Meepo is still a strong hero but can be countered pretty well. What makes Meepo hard to play is the lacking early damage (such low damage early in the beginning) and it requiring a pretty high level of multitasking/map awareness.

There are just many variables that must be taken into account, but a strong and fun hero.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
tauon
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Australia1278 Posts
March 25 2013 02:51 GMT
#48982
On March 25 2013 11:09 Pikaqiu wrote:
I'm new. I'm just wondering where is a good place to watch Pro DOTA 2 games on Twitch? A lot of the time I go there is commentary but in another language. Could someone give me some user twitches so I can subscribe to them and watch their VODs? I just don't know who I am looking for.

Also is there another e-Sport like site for DOTA 2? I know TL from my interest in SC2 but Is there another site that focuses on DOTA? Thanks much!

The big three English language casters are:
http://www.twitch.tv/beyondthesummit
http://www.twitch.tv/joindota
http://www.twitch.tv/thegdstudio

Beyond the Summit probably casts the most games in your timezone.
Road to 6sange
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
March 25 2013 03:39 GMT
#48983
On March 25 2013 11:25 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2013 10:09 Nevuk wrote:
On March 25 2013 09:52 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On March 25 2013 09:48 Excludos wrote:
On March 25 2013 02:12 DrPandaPhD wrote:
On March 25 2013 01:54 Torte de Lini wrote:
I think I'm going to quit playing Meepo now.
Gave it about 15 games or so a try. I can farm acceptably, but too many heroes just wreck through me.

I wish his slow slowed attack speed and poof was not BKB-blockable ):

Don't quit playing him. Just try to pick him when it's actually a good time to do so. (Fuck nyx, srsly)


There is never a good time to play meepo. Even if you play him perfectly (which is near impossible in itself), he's still only a "meh" hero. I have yet to see any progamers pick him and win (excluding some matches where they'd won 4v5 anyways. Also, if you could prove me wrong with a vod I'd be a happy man).


notail played him for fnatic in a very nice match. I don't remember which game it was though or I'd find the vod for you. Splitpush with furion/meepo.

He played him vs Baguette and Virtus.pro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oc_NqQQa5jQ
Virtus pro match



That..was..beautiful. Never realized the amazing synergi between meepo and np :D Still tho, that requires incredible amounts of awareness and teamwork, and also some luck in the pick phase. I don't think you can play like that in pubs.

http://dotabuff.com/players/19672354
(n0tail did a semi-guide to a meepo at one point, he also plays him a lot on stream in pubs).
Saryph
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1955 Posts
March 25 2013 06:17 GMT
#48984
On March 25 2013 11:51 tauon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2013 11:09 Pikaqiu wrote:
I'm new. I'm just wondering where is a good place to watch Pro DOTA 2 games on Twitch? A lot of the time I go there is commentary but in another language. Could someone give me some user twitches so I can subscribe to them and watch their VODs? I just don't know who I am looking for.

Also is there another e-Sport like site for DOTA 2? I know TL from my interest in SC2 but Is there another site that focuses on DOTA? Thanks much!

The big three English language casters are:
http://www.twitch.tv/beyondthesummit
http://www.twitch.tv/joindota
http://www.twitch.tv/thegdstudio

Beyond the Summit probably casts the most games in your timezone.


http://www.twitch.tv/tobiwandota is the channel for tobi, and thus joindota, the channel you linked is for something besides dota I think.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
March 25 2013 06:24 GMT
#48985
Time to play PL for 50 games straight guys. Tired of losing games to him, but I found the counter, just pick him first

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Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
March 25 2013 06:28 GMT
#48986
In terms of anti fun, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that PL is more antifun than antimage was.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
March 25 2013 06:35 GMT
#48987
On March 25 2013 15:28 Itsmedudeman wrote:
In terms of anti fun, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that PL is more antifun than antimage was.

Oh of course. Especially Kotl+PL stackers, they are the definition of anti-fun.
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betamale
Profile Joined September 2010
633 Posts
March 25 2013 06:41 GMT
#48988
give me kotl pl pickers over nyx pickers anyday
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
March 25 2013 06:53 GMT
#48989
magnus > all of the above.
Infernal_dream
Profile Joined September 2011
United States2359 Posts
March 25 2013 07:27 GMT
#48990
On March 25 2013 15:41 betamale wrote:
give me kotl pl pickers over nyx pickers anyday


Why do you dislike nyx so much? He's not a one man army (literally) like PL is. His little combo is good for getting solo kills but there's a lot of heroes you can do that on.
Vimsey
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom2235 Posts
March 25 2013 07:28 GMT
#48991
On March 25 2013 15:17 Saryph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2013 11:51 tauon wrote:
On March 25 2013 11:09 Pikaqiu wrote:
I'm new. I'm just wondering where is a good place to watch Pro DOTA 2 games on Twitch? A lot of the time I go there is commentary but in another language. Could someone give me some user twitches so I can subscribe to them and watch their VODs? I just don't know who I am looking for.

Also is there another e-Sport like site for DOTA 2? I know TL from my interest in SC2 but Is there another site that focuses on DOTA? Thanks much!

The big three English language casters are:
http://www.twitch.tv/beyondthesummit
http://www.twitch.tv/joindota
http://www.twitch.tv/thegdstudio

Beyond the Summit probably casts the most games in your timezone.


http://www.twitch.tv/tobiwandota is the channel for tobi, and thus joindota, the channel you linked is for something besides dota I think.

You forgot Ayesee on http://www.twitch.tv/onemoregametv2

The other site that lists streams etc is joindota.com although most English streams are always on the teamliquid calender and stream lists.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
March 25 2013 07:31 GMT
#48992
On March 25 2013 16:27 Infernal_dream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2013 15:41 betamale wrote:
give me kotl pl pickers over nyx pickers anyday


Why do you dislike nyx so much? He's not a one man army (literally) like PL is. His little combo is good for getting solo kills but there's a lot of heroes you can do that on.

Except he has invis and completely dominates the map forcing you to stick as 5.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
March 25 2013 07:35 GMT
#48993
On March 25 2013 16:27 Infernal_dream wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2013 15:41 betamale wrote:
give me kotl pl pickers over nyx pickers anyday


Why do you dislike nyx so much? He's not a one man army (literally) like PL is. His little combo is good for getting solo kills but there's a lot of heroes you can do that on.

It's not actually his solo kill combo that makes him annoying in high level games. It is his teamfight ability with spiked carapace. Walk into the fight, pop carapace, lol as their whole team gets stunned. In lower level games you're right though, his vendetta, and ability to combo people with dagon is really good. But at a certain level this just stops working, as it's quite easy to avoid.
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Erandorr
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
2283 Posts
March 25 2013 08:21 GMT
#48994
On March 25 2013 16:35 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2013 16:27 Infernal_dream wrote:
On March 25 2013 15:41 betamale wrote:
give me kotl pl pickers over nyx pickers anyday


Why do you dislike nyx so much? He's not a one man army (literally) like PL is. His little combo is good for getting solo kills but there's a lot of heroes you can do that on.

It's not actually his solo kill combo that makes him annoying in high level games. It is his teamfight ability with spiked carapace. Walk into the fight, pop carapace, lol as their whole team gets stunned. In lower level games you're right though, his vendetta, and ability to combo people with dagon is really good. But at a certain level this just stops working, as it's quite easy to avoid.


Nyx initiation abilities are an issue on every level, because its a support that forces you out of your lane/ makes you drop tons of sentries without needing any items to do so. He has invis burst damage, an aoe stun and a spell that allows him to run into shit with less worries than any other support. He can take ur mana and hurt you with it if he feels like it, too.

If you are taking about the dagon mid Nyx, its still very annoying to play against because it forces you to play more passive and boring. In pubs with few wards you will have to towerhug anytime his ult is off cd and he is missing from the map. FUN!
betamale
Profile Joined September 2010
633 Posts
March 25 2013 08:40 GMT
#48995
not to mention you know where kotl and pl are or need to be and its easy to control them if you play right without putting too much effort into it

nyx on the other hand can do damage anywhere and countering him requires way more effort

and carapace is just an enraging skill
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-25 08:59:57
March 25 2013 08:55 GMT
#48996
On March 25 2013 15:24 TheEmulator wrote:
Time to play PL for 50 games straight guys. Tired of losing games to him, but I found the counter, just pick him first



from personal experience if you get rapier kunkka or 6 slot sniper you beat pl no problem
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
March 25 2013 09:27 GMT
#48997
On March 25 2013 17:55 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 25 2013 15:24 TheEmulator wrote:
Time to play PL for 50 games straight guys. Tired of losing games to him, but I found the counter, just pick him first



from personal experience if you get rapier kunkka or 6 slot sniper you beat pl no problem

PL can't touch 6 slot tiny while we're on this topic.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
March 25 2013 09:32 GMT
#48998
On March 25 2013 15:28 Itsmedudeman wrote:
In terms of anti fun, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that PL is more antifun than antimage was.

i think the early beta antimage was still worse. it was so goddamn hard to shut him down without todays nerfs and there werent a lot of heroes that could do well against him
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
March 25 2013 09:46 GMT
#48999
Aight kids, math quiz time. Percentage chance of proccing lightning with 6 mjollnirs.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Narcind
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2489 Posts
March 25 2013 09:51 GMT
#49000
I don't know, the AM nerfs really aren't all that big, and there were a few heroes that are pretty good vs AM, NS and beastmaster immediately come to mind.

PL is just full blown cancer though.
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