On March 25 2013 01:54 Torte de Lini wrote: I think I'm going to quit playing Meepo now. Gave it about 15 games or so a try. I can farm acceptably, but too many heroes just wreck through me.
I wish his slow slowed attack speed and poof was not BKB-blockable ):
Don't quit playing him. Just try to pick him when it's actually a good time to do so. (Fuck nyx, srsly)
There is never a good time to play meepo. Even if you play him perfectly (which is near impossible in itself), he's still only a "meh" hero. I have yet to see any progamers pick him and win (excluding some matches where they'd won 4v5 anyways. Also, if you could prove me wrong with a vod I'd be a happy man).
notail played him for fnatic in a very nice match. I don't remember which game it was though or I'd find the vod for you. Splitpush with furion/meepo.
He played him vs Baguette and Virtus.pro
Virtus pro match
That..was..beautiful. Never realized the amazing synergi between meepo and np :D Still tho, that requires incredible amounts of awareness and teamwork, and also some luck in the pick phase. I don't think you can play like that in pubs.
Can play that way or if solo queue, can try variations but it still works. Meepo is still a strong hero but can be countered pretty well. What makes Meepo hard to play is the lacking early damage (such low damage early in the beginning) and it requiring a pretty high level of multitasking/map awareness.
There are just many variables that must be taken into account, but a strong and fun hero.
On March 25 2013 11:09 Pikaqiu wrote: I'm new. I'm just wondering where is a good place to watch Pro DOTA 2 games on Twitch? A lot of the time I go there is commentary but in another language. Could someone give me some user twitches so I can subscribe to them and watch their VODs? I just don't know who I am looking for.
Also is there another e-Sport like site for DOTA 2? I know TL from my interest in SC2 but Is there another site that focuses on DOTA? Thanks much!
On March 25 2013 01:54 Torte de Lini wrote: I think I'm going to quit playing Meepo now. Gave it about 15 games or so a try. I can farm acceptably, but too many heroes just wreck through me.
I wish his slow slowed attack speed and poof was not BKB-blockable ):
Don't quit playing him. Just try to pick him when it's actually a good time to do so. (Fuck nyx, srsly)
There is never a good time to play meepo. Even if you play him perfectly (which is near impossible in itself), he's still only a "meh" hero. I have yet to see any progamers pick him and win (excluding some matches where they'd won 4v5 anyways. Also, if you could prove me wrong with a vod I'd be a happy man).
notail played him for fnatic in a very nice match. I don't remember which game it was though or I'd find the vod for you. Splitpush with furion/meepo.
That..was..beautiful. Never realized the amazing synergi between meepo and np :D Still tho, that requires incredible amounts of awareness and teamwork, and also some luck in the pick phase. I don't think you can play like that in pubs.
On March 25 2013 11:09 Pikaqiu wrote: I'm new. I'm just wondering where is a good place to watch Pro DOTA 2 games on Twitch? A lot of the time I go there is commentary but in another language. Could someone give me some user twitches so I can subscribe to them and watch their VODs? I just don't know who I am looking for.
Also is there another e-Sport like site for DOTA 2? I know TL from my interest in SC2 but Is there another site that focuses on DOTA? Thanks much!
On March 25 2013 15:41 betamale wrote: give me kotl pl pickers over nyx pickers anyday
Why do you dislike nyx so much? He's not a one man army (literally) like PL is. His little combo is good for getting solo kills but there's a lot of heroes you can do that on.
On March 25 2013 11:09 Pikaqiu wrote: I'm new. I'm just wondering where is a good place to watch Pro DOTA 2 games on Twitch? A lot of the time I go there is commentary but in another language. Could someone give me some user twitches so I can subscribe to them and watch their VODs? I just don't know who I am looking for.
Also is there another e-Sport like site for DOTA 2? I know TL from my interest in SC2 but Is there another site that focuses on DOTA? Thanks much!
On March 25 2013 15:41 betamale wrote: give me kotl pl pickers over nyx pickers anyday
Why do you dislike nyx so much? He's not a one man army (literally) like PL is. His little combo is good for getting solo kills but there's a lot of heroes you can do that on.
Except he has invis and completely dominates the map forcing you to stick as 5.
On March 25 2013 15:41 betamale wrote: give me kotl pl pickers over nyx pickers anyday
Why do you dislike nyx so much? He's not a one man army (literally) like PL is. His little combo is good for getting solo kills but there's a lot of heroes you can do that on.
It's not actually his solo kill combo that makes him annoying in high level games. It is his teamfight ability with spiked carapace. Walk into the fight, pop carapace, lol as their whole team gets stunned. In lower level games you're right though, his vendetta, and ability to combo people with dagon is really good. But at a certain level this just stops working, as it's quite easy to avoid.
On March 25 2013 15:41 betamale wrote: give me kotl pl pickers over nyx pickers anyday
Why do you dislike nyx so much? He's not a one man army (literally) like PL is. His little combo is good for getting solo kills but there's a lot of heroes you can do that on.
It's not actually his solo kill combo that makes him annoying in high level games. It is his teamfight ability with spiked carapace. Walk into the fight, pop carapace, lol as their whole team gets stunned. In lower level games you're right though, his vendetta, and ability to combo people with dagon is really good. But at a certain level this just stops working, as it's quite easy to avoid.
Nyx initiation abilities are an issue on every level, because its a support that forces you out of your lane/ makes you drop tons of sentries without needing any items to do so. He has invis burst damage, an aoe stun and a spell that allows him to run into shit with less worries than any other support. He can take ur mana and hurt you with it if he feels like it, too.
If you are taking about the dagon mid Nyx, its still very annoying to play against because it forces you to play more passive and boring. In pubs with few wards you will have to towerhug anytime his ult is off cd and he is missing from the map. FUN!
On March 25 2013 15:24 TheEmulator wrote: Time to play PL for 50 games straight guys. Tired of losing games to him, but I found the counter, just pick him first
from personal experience if you get rapier kunkka or 6 slot sniper you beat pl no problem
On March 25 2013 15:24 TheEmulator wrote: Time to play PL for 50 games straight guys. Tired of losing games to him, but I found the counter, just pick him first
from personal experience if you get rapier kunkka or 6 slot sniper you beat pl no problem
PL can't touch 6 slot tiny while we're on this topic.
On March 25 2013 15:28 Itsmedudeman wrote: In terms of anti fun, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that PL is more antifun than antimage was.
i think the early beta antimage was still worse. it was so goddamn hard to shut him down without todays nerfs and there werent a lot of heroes that could do well against him
I don't know, the AM nerfs really aren't all that big, and there were a few heroes that are pretty good vs AM, NS and beastmaster immediately come to mind.