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Emnjay808
United States10666 Posts
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
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Skullflower
United States3779 Posts
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
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Omigawa
United States1556 Posts
Why does it seem like pro teams rarely play Invoker? Is it a meta shift or did Invoker get nerfed? | ||
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Shaella
United States14828 Posts
On March 06 2013 17:45 Omigawa wrote: I looked through the forum and couldn't find a simple question / simple answer thread, so I guess I'll post it here.. Why does it seem like pro teams rarely play Invoker? Is it a meta shift or did Invoker get nerfed? base damage got nerfed, which makes it a lot harder for him to midlane as Quas Wex, which is the preferred build, so instead they have to play Quas Exort, which contributes a lot less control for most of the game, but more pushing power He still shows up occasionally | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
His base damage was nerfed Force staff was changed, wich resulted in a nerf(drums was nerfed too) The appearance of TA and other laners that far outclassed him mid. On March 06 2013 15:44 IPA wrote: Is there a thread where we can talk shit on LoL/HoN vs Dota? Or is that just 100% frowned upon at TL?  I don' t want to foul up this thread with my questions as to how anyone could play anything other than Dota. I'd like to do it somewhat articulately. I just don't know where to put it. :x Blog about it if you want but beware, its pretty hard to not get into flame wars between people and don't expect it to not get closed if it does. | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34506 Posts
On March 06 2013 17:45 Omigawa wrote: I looked through the forum and couldn't find a simple question / simple answer thread, so I guess I'll post it here.. Why does it seem like pro teams rarely play Invoker? Is it a meta shift or did Invoker get nerfed? The simple questions, simple answers thread is in the strategy forums. Invoker is not seen much anymore because of two reasons. Firstly, the base damage nerf he received makes him a much weaker laner than he used to be, and as a result he loses in most mid match ups. Secondly, the meta game shifted to a larger focus on earlier teamfights and pushes, even early 5-man dota. Invoker is a hero that deaperately needs levels before he can be effective at all in teamfights, and thus teams can take advantage of that to push you down before he can influence the game. When I draft, I still consider him as a decent 4th or 5th pick if my opponents have drafted a team that I judge to be unlikely to force early/mid game teamfights. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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dfs
Russian Federation4050 Posts
Rox.Kis player forgot to turn his mic off on stream while talking on the phone. Rox wants to get Smile (Ars-art) and he already agreed to try how it goes. He won't play official matches yet, only skrims and practice. | ||
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maru~
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I think the fact that he isn't as dominant in lane anymore is far more crucial. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 06 2013 19:38 maru~ wrote: With the exp changes you get lvl 7/8 very quickly, and at this point Tornado/EMP is already quite potent. Granted, the efficiency of EMP can be greatly reduced by getting a few Arcanes, but Tornado is still a great and safe initiating/counterinitiating tool. I think the fact that he isn't as dominant in lane anymore is far more crucial. The sweet spot for Tornado+EMP is 3 Quas 5 Exort. That requires level 10. | ||
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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34506 Posts
On March 06 2013 19:39 TheYango wrote: The sweet spot for Tornado+EMP is 3 Quas 5 Exort. That requires level 10. Silly yango, you cannot invoke tornado with only quas and exort! | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10950 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On March 06 2013 19:44 Firebolt145 wrote: Silly yango, you cannot invoke tornado with only quas and exort! Er, Wex yeah, whatever. On March 06 2013 19:45 Velr wrote: While i understand that some people miss him... Seeing him in basically every game really, really annoyed me to no end and i prefer it like it is now.... Never liked that bastard .There's always going to be a "see him every game" hero. I don't think seeing Invoker every game is better or worse than seeing NA or Bat every game. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
. Kuroky came from gunbound(even though i prefer Kal over boom). They talk about ping communication, diss all the stupid questions. Pretty much the best talkdota episodes i have seen, hope they gona get kuroky on to discuss the next major dota patch in the future. | ||
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Mithhaike
Singapore2759 Posts
Oh yeah this is going under bookmark. First time i see yango making a mistake. Oh im also using the date to buy a lottery ticket. wish me luck guys  | ||
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maru~
2345 Posts
On March 06 2013 19:39 TheYango wrote: The sweet spot for Tornado+EMP is 3 Quas 5 Exort. That requires level 10. He can still contribute to a fight with his combo at 7/8 (+ Coldsnap). On March 06 2013 19:48 TheYango wrote: There's always going to be a "see him every game" hero. I don't think seeing Invoker every game is better or worse than seeing NA or Bat every game. NA and Bat are banned most of the time. Your point still stands though. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
If Valve had it on their plate to fix how Batrider handles, there was literally zero reason to buff the hero. | ||
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SilverStar
Sweden18511 Posts
On March 06 2013 19:15 dfs wrote: Some interestiong stuff happened yesterday. Rox.Kis player forgot to turn his mic off on stream while talking on the phone. Rox wants to get Smile (Ars-art) and he already agreed to try how it goes. He won't play official matches yet, only skrims and practice. Wow, rox.kis seemed already strong but with AA they could make a breakthrough. | ||
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