General Discussion - Page 2091

On February 05 2013 21:10 ahswtini wrote:

I THINK the limit is 5. I have a bounty hunter item with 3 modifiers not including the kill count

On February 05 2013 15:25 Yurie wrote:


Kotl +PL has the advantage of "winning" against all offlaners though. Which means you can dual mid, dual off lane or jungle to make up for it.

On February 05 2013 23:17 Numy wrote:


Kotl PL has terrible kill potential unless the enemy offlaner messes up badly. It doesn't "win" against all offlaners compared to many other dual lanes. An offlaner doesn't have to get farm to "win" the lane. If he's getting experience while your offlaner isn't then he's "winning" the lane. The advantage of Kotl+PL is kotl can farm the jungle a lot better than most other supports. He also has good stalling power which PL needs. It's a decent lane but I think it's not as amazing as people tend to think. I'd much rather have a trilane safe then two dual lanes since then you are guarentied to push the offlaner out and kotl can farm the jungle. Two dual lanes could just lead to you drawing even on two lanes instead of winning a lane and drawing even on another. Then again dual lanes are amazing in pubs where people don't know how to tri properly

EDIT: When pulling mid was easier we actually experimented with kotl+pl mid and defensive warding around mid. It was surprisingly effective. I haven't tried mid pulling since changes though

On February 06 2013 00:29 Numy wrote:
Yea it was just fun experiment. This was back when you could keep the creeps at mid tower perma with creep pulling and nyx wasn't really that popular yet. Everything you said is 100% kotl trilanes with a disabler is super hard to deal with. Normally get around this by having a mid that can dive into the back line like a qop/bat etc.

On February 06 2013 00:58 Numy wrote:
PL is really weak if you get him without any illusions so you just have to chain disable him.

On February 06 2013 01:02 Numy wrote:
Wait I lied just remember it was sylla solo safe with naix trilane and storm middle. Yea man that's why you go naix bomb with storm. Across the map initiation with a fat Mexican. Funniest shit ever Think had a nyx too so nyx naix bombs with storm jumping in later. 3 man rape train.

On February 06 2013 02:02 Numy wrote:
Yea I'm just joking about it being legit. Don't really think it works vs good teams anyway. Just think it's funny as shit to have a flying fat Mexican with a naix jumping out of him.

On February 06 2013 00:34 Comeh wrote:

I feel like i'm physically obligated to run offensive trilane against any kind of PL, and I have to draft some kind of large impact mid hero (usually QoP) to deal with PL - if I give him even a little room, it'll just be gg.

I hate this hero. I even feel bad when I draft him.

On February 06 2013 02:11 itsthewoo wrote:

Pretty much. He's not particularly vulnerable to random ganking, and shutting him down early with an offensive trilane is pretty much the best way to stop him from being a problem later.

On February 06 2013 02:32 SirMilford wrote:


Or you take gyro/lina/rubick and HOPE that you can AOE down the illusions until you take a rax.

On February 06 2013 00:58 Numy wrote:
We tried a naix safe with storm middle. It kind of worked even when we were mega behind due to naix bombs punishing positioning mistakes so hard. PL is really weak if you get him without any illusions so you just have to chain disable him. That's kind of the idea behind the storm but don't think it works vs better teams. It was fun though!

On February 06 2013 02:41 Aui_2000 wrote:


This actually pretty good vs kotl pl.

Not only do you have that long range gank potential on the PL, but sometimes if the other team if trying to 4-1 recall the pl in, you'll be able to jump the kotl before he can recall pl and get a free 4 kills)

Also storm has surprisingly good AOE, is mobile enough to not get hit by a lot of illusions, and the overload slow is pretty significant against illusions.

On February 06 2013 02:47 itsthewoo wrote:
So, I know that Dotabuff is no longer particularly accurate with ratings, but I noticed that in recent games marked "Platinum" (most of my current games are in Gold), the overall skill on my team was clearly lower than that of the other team. They also happened to be games where there were some particularly ragey people on my team, but I'll chalk that up to luck of the draw rather than causality (though that does contribute to the lack of team skill, since there's no cooperation).

Am I being required to carry these games in order to get the next step in bracket? Has anyone else been in the position of having to carry a game like this, and soon after jumping up in bracket?

This is for solo queue, btw. Unsurprisingly, when I stack with people already in high/vhigh brackets, my games aren't as lopsided.

On February 06 2013 02:41 Aui_2000 wrote:


This actually pretty good vs kotl pl.

Not only do you have that long range gank potential on the PL, but sometimes if the other team if trying to 4-1 recall the pl in, you'll be able to jump the kotl before he can recall pl and get a free 4 kills)

Also storm has surprisingly good AOE, is mobile enough to not get hit by a lot of illusions, and the overload slow is pretty significant against illusions.

On February 06 2013 02:50 Sn0_Man wrote:


Ignore your MMR bracket, ignore your "DBR", just play as well as you can, every game. Do your best to improve, and not to flame. Over-thinking ratings and stuff is utterly pointless and only leads to misconceptions.