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On February 03 2013 02:11 WindWolf wrote: (Got first blood in my first match-making victory btw!) This was false, however I got an assist for the first blood in my first victory (Double-checked replay). Sorry
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On February 03 2013 15:12 leloup wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2013 15:01 konadora wrote:On February 03 2013 15:00 TheYango wrote:On February 03 2013 14:58 konadora wrote: whatever the hell happened to heroes like TA and naga? i miss them somewhat :< TA i understand because the nerf is pretty significant, but naga didn't get nerfed that badly iirc? 6.76 - Rip Tide cooldown rescaled from 10 to 19/16/13/10 6.75 - Base damage decreased by 12 6.75 - Cast animation time increased from 0.5 to 0.65 That's pretty significant. whoa shit 12 dmg, ok i didn't know it was that much, that is way more than invoker's damage nerf wtf QQ Funny enough she got -12, and can still last hit decently enough. Poor morph on the other hand T_T What? 45 damage average is awful for a melee carry. The majority of all heroes have higher base damage to lasthit and deny, many of them range. At a quick glance, the range heroes she can properly contend lasthits with: Potm CM Zeus Enigma Lion Viper
I recently randomed naga siren and it was a laning nightmare. Imho you definitely need a quelling blade now if your enemies even remotely try to deny.
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On February 03 2013 16:34 Mataza wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2013 15:12 leloup wrote:On February 03 2013 15:01 konadora wrote:On February 03 2013 15:00 TheYango wrote:On February 03 2013 14:58 konadora wrote: whatever the hell happened to heroes like TA and naga? i miss them somewhat :< TA i understand because the nerf is pretty significant, but naga didn't get nerfed that badly iirc? 6.76 - Rip Tide cooldown rescaled from 10 to 19/16/13/10 6.75 - Base damage decreased by 12 6.75 - Cast animation time increased from 0.5 to 0.65 That's pretty significant. whoa shit 12 dmg, ok i didn't know it was that much, that is way more than invoker's damage nerf wtf QQ Funny enough she got -12, and can still last hit decently enough. Poor morph on the other hand T_T What? 45 damage average is awful for a melee carry. The majority of all heroes have higher base damage to lasthit and deny, many of them range. At a quick glance, the range heroes she can properly contend lasthits with: Potm CM Zeus Enigma Lion Viper I recently randomed naga siren and it was a laning nightmare. Imho you definitely need a quelling blade now if your enemies even remotely try to deny. Viper without Nethertoxin*
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On February 03 2013 16:44 rabidch wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2013 16:34 Mataza wrote:On February 03 2013 15:12 leloup wrote:On February 03 2013 15:01 konadora wrote:On February 03 2013 15:00 TheYango wrote:On February 03 2013 14:58 konadora wrote: whatever the hell happened to heroes like TA and naga? i miss them somewhat :< TA i understand because the nerf is pretty significant, but naga didn't get nerfed that badly iirc? 6.76 - Rip Tide cooldown rescaled from 10 to 19/16/13/10 6.75 - Base damage decreased by 12 6.75 - Cast animation time increased from 0.5 to 0.65 That's pretty significant. whoa shit 12 dmg, ok i didn't know it was that much, that is way more than invoker's damage nerf wtf QQ Funny enough she got -12, and can still last hit decently enough. Poor morph on the other hand T_T What? 45 damage average is awful for a melee carry. The majority of all heroes have higher base damage to lasthit and deny, many of them range. At a quick glance, the range heroes she can properly contend lasthits with: Potm CM Zeus Enigma Lion Viper I recently randomed naga siren and it was a laning nightmare. Imho you definitely need a quelling blade now if your enemies even remotely try to deny. Viper without Nethertoxin* And Enigma without Eidolons. Point was, there are very few heroes that have consistent worse base damage. To me, Naga is pretty much underpowered now. Most importantly her illusions got nerfed just as hard as she was, because base damage is important to illus.
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idunno i have a hard time caring if a hero is "overnerfed" ( i still think naga is good) if a hero is designed as aggravating. There is no fun in watching a naga ult and going "welp thats all i can do" Same with people arguing that morph/lycan were also overnerfed. It was just too stupid trying to bring these heroes down. Lycan is also still a good hero, just hard to lane/jungle
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personally i dont mind playing lycan at all your stuff is just delayed a few more minutes but youre still a monster later on mowing down buildings solo
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On February 03 2013 18:04 hollabackk wrote: idunno i have a hard time caring if a hero is "overnerfed" ( i still think naga is good) if a hero is designed as aggravating. There is no fun in watching a naga ult and going "welp thats all i can do" Same with people arguing that morph/lycan were also overnerfed. It was just too stupid trying to bring these heroes down. Lycan is also still a good hero, just hard to lane/jungle I'm pretty sure you could make an argument for every hero in the game being "aggravating".
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On February 03 2013 15:47 Torte de Lini wrote: There is no way to do ancients as troll, I don't understand it at all.
In fact, I don't know how to play Troll Warlord at all. Laning phase involves me always getting out-denied because his range is slightly too weak to really last-hit.
Then I'll stack ancients and I'll never really be able to do them because I'll kite them, but the ASPD resets when attack because I'll miss the target because there are so many.
Then when it comes to killing, I'll target someone, pop my BKB, and they'll just outpace me. My slow doesn't last long enough for me to catch up and I'm not getting the bashes I need to keep them in place long enough. Soon my BKB will die and I'll just get stomped. It seems like you play troll mostly in ranged form, ranged should be the exception (only to cast your slow basically) and you should always be in melee form. Melee during the laning phase gives you plenty of damage. On his stream chuan made phase lothar hotd bkb.
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I just had an awesome game! My team: Warlock(me), Anti-mage, Punga, Riki, Enchantress Oppenents: Spirit Breaker, Shadow Demon, Bounty Hunter, Shadow Shaman, Huskar
Despite that our enchantress disconnected at Lv4 and no one ever controlled her, we ere still able to win 50-16 in 25 minutes.
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the key thing about picking troll is you need to get as many carries as possible and abuse the hell out of the global ult, 5 carry team composition is quite good with him
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On February 03 2013 18:24 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2013 18:04 hollabackk wrote: idunno i have a hard time caring if a hero is "overnerfed" ( i still think naga is good) if a hero is designed as aggravating. There is no fun in watching a naga ult and going "welp thats all i can do" Same with people arguing that morph/lycan were also overnerfed. It was just too stupid trying to bring these heroes down. Lycan is also still a good hero, just hard to lane/jungle I'm pretty sure you could make an argument for every hero in the game being "aggravating". There's only one hero that I'd like to see deleted from the game and that is kotl.fuck.kotl. Apart from him every hero has his charm.
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On February 03 2013 18:45 TheKefka wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2013 18:24 TheYango wrote:On February 03 2013 18:04 hollabackk wrote: idunno i have a hard time caring if a hero is "overnerfed" ( i still think naga is good) if a hero is designed as aggravating. There is no fun in watching a naga ult and going "welp thats all i can do" Same with people arguing that morph/lycan were also overnerfed. It was just too stupid trying to bring these heroes down. Lycan is also still a good hero, just hard to lane/jungle I'm pretty sure you could make an argument for every hero in the game being "aggravating". There's only one hero that I'd like to see deleted from the game and that is kotl.fuck.kotl. Apart from him every hero has his charm. Ah, sweet Lina, if I did not carry this light I would carry a torch for you.
Isn't that charming enough ?
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On February 03 2013 18:54 Liebig wrote:Show nested quote +On February 03 2013 18:45 TheKefka wrote:On February 03 2013 18:24 TheYango wrote:On February 03 2013 18:04 hollabackk wrote: idunno i have a hard time caring if a hero is "overnerfed" ( i still think naga is good) if a hero is designed as aggravating. There is no fun in watching a naga ult and going "welp thats all i can do" Same with people arguing that morph/lycan were also overnerfed. It was just too stupid trying to bring these heroes down. Lycan is also still a good hero, just hard to lane/jungle I'm pretty sure you could make an argument for every hero in the game being "aggravating". There's only one hero that I'd like to see deleted from the game and that is kotl.fuck.kotl. Apart from him every hero has his charm. Ah, sweet Lina, if I did not carry this light I would carry a torch for you.Isn't that charming enough ?  He could be saving babys from burning houses for all I care,he's still a complete asshole.
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On February 03 2013 18:31 FinestHour wrote: the key thing about picking troll is you need to get as many carries as possible and abuse the hell out of the global ult, 5 carry team composition is quite good with him
i remember the latest game i played, late game max inventory medusa + troll ult
ridiculous, spectre pudge MELTED in like 3 seconds lmao
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TA with troll was scary, refraction damage charges used in about a second
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on a scale of one to spirit breaker i think hes pretty spirit breaker strong
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Can anyone recommend me how to get rid of ~25 beta keys? I tried reddit but apparently that place is just stupid. From 10 comments 3 people already had Dota 2, 2 people posted without providing IDs and aren't answering PMs and most of the rest just wanted them for low priority dodging.
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On February 03 2013 19:21 Locke- wrote: Can anyone recommend me how to get rid of ~25 beta keys? I just got mine but if you want, I can take some of those if one of my friends wanna play as well.
PM me for more details
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you can sell the beta keys on the steam store for like .03$ each or something
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On February 03 2013 19:11 Qbek wrote: TA with troll was scary, refraction damage charges used in about a second No-no-no. You have not witnessed horror Drow with troll is scary
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