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WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
February 03 2013 07:22 GMT
#41461
On February 03 2013 02:11 WindWolf wrote:
(Got first blood in my first match-making victory btw!)

This was false, however I got an assist for the first blood in my first victory (Double-checked replay). Sorry
EZ4ENCE
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
February 03 2013 07:34 GMT
#41462
On February 03 2013 15:12 leloup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 15:01 konadora wrote:
On February 03 2013 15:00 TheYango wrote:
On February 03 2013 14:58 konadora wrote:
whatever the hell happened to heroes like TA and naga? i miss them somewhat :< TA i understand because the nerf is pretty significant, but naga didn't get nerfed that badly iirc?

6.76 - Rip Tide cooldown rescaled from 10 to 19/16/13/10
6.75 - Base damage decreased by 12
6.75 - Cast animation time increased from 0.5 to 0.65

That's pretty significant.

whoa shit 12 dmg, ok i didn't know it was that much, that is way more than invoker's damage nerf wtf

QQ


Funny enough she got -12, and can still last hit decently enough.

Poor morph on the other hand T_T

What?
45 damage average is awful for a melee carry. The majority of all heroes have higher base damage to lasthit and deny, many of them range.
At a quick glance, the range heroes she can properly contend lasthits with:
Potm
CM
Zeus
Enigma
Lion
Viper

I recently randomed naga siren and it was a laning nightmare. Imho you definitely need a quelling blade now if your enemies even remotely try to deny.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
February 03 2013 07:44 GMT
#41463
On February 03 2013 16:34 Mataza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 15:12 leloup wrote:
On February 03 2013 15:01 konadora wrote:
On February 03 2013 15:00 TheYango wrote:
On February 03 2013 14:58 konadora wrote:
whatever the hell happened to heroes like TA and naga? i miss them somewhat :< TA i understand because the nerf is pretty significant, but naga didn't get nerfed that badly iirc?

6.76 - Rip Tide cooldown rescaled from 10 to 19/16/13/10
6.75 - Base damage decreased by 12
6.75 - Cast animation time increased from 0.5 to 0.65

That's pretty significant.

whoa shit 12 dmg, ok i didn't know it was that much, that is way more than invoker's damage nerf wtf

QQ


Funny enough she got -12, and can still last hit decently enough.

Poor morph on the other hand T_T

What?
45 damage average is awful for a melee carry. The majority of all heroes have higher base damage to lasthit and deny, many of them range.
At a quick glance, the range heroes she can properly contend lasthits with:
Potm
CM
Zeus
Enigma
Lion
Viper

I recently randomed naga siren and it was a laning nightmare. Imho you definitely need a quelling blade now if your enemies even remotely try to deny.

Viper without Nethertoxin*
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
February 03 2013 08:34 GMT
#41464
On February 03 2013 16:44 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 16:34 Mataza wrote:
On February 03 2013 15:12 leloup wrote:
On February 03 2013 15:01 konadora wrote:
On February 03 2013 15:00 TheYango wrote:
On February 03 2013 14:58 konadora wrote:
whatever the hell happened to heroes like TA and naga? i miss them somewhat :< TA i understand because the nerf is pretty significant, but naga didn't get nerfed that badly iirc?

6.76 - Rip Tide cooldown rescaled from 10 to 19/16/13/10
6.75 - Base damage decreased by 12
6.75 - Cast animation time increased from 0.5 to 0.65

That's pretty significant.

whoa shit 12 dmg, ok i didn't know it was that much, that is way more than invoker's damage nerf wtf

QQ


Funny enough she got -12, and can still last hit decently enough.

Poor morph on the other hand T_T

What?
45 damage average is awful for a melee carry. The majority of all heroes have higher base damage to lasthit and deny, many of them range.
At a quick glance, the range heroes she can properly contend lasthits with:
Potm
CM
Zeus
Enigma
Lion
Viper

I recently randomed naga siren and it was a laning nightmare. Imho you definitely need a quelling blade now if your enemies even remotely try to deny.

Viper without Nethertoxin*

And Enigma without Eidolons.
Point was, there are very few heroes that have consistent worse base damage. To me, Naga is pretty much underpowered now. Most importantly her illusions got nerfed just as hard as she was, because base damage is important to illus.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
hollabackk
Profile Joined December 2010
118 Posts
February 03 2013 09:04 GMT
#41465
idunno i have a hard time caring if a hero is "overnerfed" ( i still think naga is good) if a hero is designed as aggravating. There is no fun in watching a naga ult and going "welp thats all i can do" Same with people arguing that morph/lycan were also overnerfed. It was just too stupid trying to bring these heroes down. Lycan is also still a good hero, just hard to lane/jungle
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 03 2013 09:10 GMT
#41466
personally i dont mind playing lycan at all
your stuff is just delayed a few more minutes but youre still a monster later on mowing down buildings solo
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 03 2013 09:24 GMT
#41467
On February 03 2013 18:04 hollabackk wrote:
idunno i have a hard time caring if a hero is "overnerfed" ( i still think naga is good) if a hero is designed as aggravating. There is no fun in watching a naga ult and going "welp thats all i can do" Same with people arguing that morph/lycan were also overnerfed. It was just too stupid trying to bring these heroes down. Lycan is also still a good hero, just hard to lane/jungle

I'm pretty sure you could make an argument for every hero in the game being "aggravating".
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
February 03 2013 09:25 GMT
#41468
On February 03 2013 15:47 Torte de Lini wrote:
There is no way to do ancients as troll, I don't understand it at all.

In fact, I don't know how to play Troll Warlord at all.
Laning phase involves me always getting out-denied because his range is slightly too weak to really last-hit.

Then I'll stack ancients and I'll never really be able to do them because I'll kite them, but the ASPD resets when attack because I'll miss the target because there are so many.

Then when it comes to killing, I'll target someone, pop my BKB, and they'll just outpace me. My slow doesn't last long enough for me to catch up and I'm not getting the bashes I need to keep them in place long enough. Soon my BKB will die and I'll just get stomped.

It seems like you play troll mostly in ranged form, ranged should be the exception (only to cast your slow basically) and you should always be in melee form.
Melee during the laning phase gives you plenty of damage. On his stream chuan made phase lothar hotd bkb.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
February 03 2013 09:31 GMT
#41469
I just had an awesome game!
My team: Warlock(me), Anti-mage, Punga, Riki, Enchantress
Oppenents: Spirit Breaker, Shadow Demon, Bounty Hunter, Shadow Shaman, Huskar

Despite that our enchantress disconnected at Lv4 and no one ever controlled her, we ere still able to win 50-16 in 25 minutes.
EZ4ENCE
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 03 2013 09:31 GMT
#41470
the key thing about picking troll is you need to get as many carries as possible and abuse the hell out of the global ult, 5 carry team composition is quite good with him
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
February 03 2013 09:45 GMT
#41471
On February 03 2013 18:24 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 18:04 hollabackk wrote:
idunno i have a hard time caring if a hero is "overnerfed" ( i still think naga is good) if a hero is designed as aggravating. There is no fun in watching a naga ult and going "welp thats all i can do" Same with people arguing that morph/lycan were also overnerfed. It was just too stupid trying to bring these heroes down. Lycan is also still a good hero, just hard to lane/jungle

I'm pretty sure you could make an argument for every hero in the game being "aggravating".

There's only one hero that I'd like to see deleted from the game and that is kotl.fuck.kotl.
Apart from him every hero has his charm.
Cackle™
Liebig
Profile Joined August 2010
France738 Posts
February 03 2013 09:54 GMT
#41472
On February 03 2013 18:45 TheKefka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 18:24 TheYango wrote:
On February 03 2013 18:04 hollabackk wrote:
idunno i have a hard time caring if a hero is "overnerfed" ( i still think naga is good) if a hero is designed as aggravating. There is no fun in watching a naga ult and going "welp thats all i can do" Same with people arguing that morph/lycan were also overnerfed. It was just too stupid trying to bring these heroes down. Lycan is also still a good hero, just hard to lane/jungle

I'm pretty sure you could make an argument for every hero in the game being "aggravating".

There's only one hero that I'd like to see deleted from the game and that is kotl.fuck.kotl.
Apart from him every hero has his charm.

Ah, sweet Lina, if I did not carry this light I would carry a torch for you.

Isn't that charming enough ?
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-03 09:59:23
February 03 2013 09:57 GMT
#41473
On February 03 2013 18:54 Liebig wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 18:45 TheKefka wrote:
On February 03 2013 18:24 TheYango wrote:
On February 03 2013 18:04 hollabackk wrote:
idunno i have a hard time caring if a hero is "overnerfed" ( i still think naga is good) if a hero is designed as aggravating. There is no fun in watching a naga ult and going "welp thats all i can do" Same with people arguing that morph/lycan were also overnerfed. It was just too stupid trying to bring these heroes down. Lycan is also still a good hero, just hard to lane/jungle

I'm pretty sure you could make an argument for every hero in the game being "aggravating".

There's only one hero that I'd like to see deleted from the game and that is kotl.fuck.kotl.
Apart from him every hero has his charm.

Ah, sweet Lina, if I did not carry this light I would carry a torch for you.

Isn't that charming enough ?

He could be saving babys from burning houses for all I care,he's still a complete asshole.
Cackle™
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
February 03 2013 10:00 GMT
#41474
On February 03 2013 18:31 FinestHour wrote:
the key thing about picking troll is you need to get as many carries as possible and abuse the hell out of the global ult, 5 carry team composition is quite good with him

i remember the latest game i played, late game max inventory medusa + troll ult

ridiculous, spectre pudge MELTED in like 3 seconds lmao
POGGERS
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
February 03 2013 10:11 GMT
#41475
TA with troll was scary, refraction damage charges used in about a second
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 03 2013 10:15 GMT
#41476
on a scale of one to spirit breaker i think hes pretty spirit breaker strong
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Locke-
Profile Joined December 2011
499 Posts
February 03 2013 10:21 GMT
#41477
Can anyone recommend me how to get rid of ~25 beta keys?
I tried reddit but apparently that place is just stupid. From 10 comments 3 people already had Dota 2, 2 people posted without providing IDs and aren't answering PMs and most of the rest just wanted them for low priority dodging.
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
February 03 2013 10:34 GMT
#41478
On February 03 2013 19:21 Locke- wrote:
Can anyone recommend me how to get rid of ~25 beta keys?

I just got mine but if you want, I can take some of those if one of my friends wanna play as well.

PM me for more details
EZ4ENCE
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
February 03 2013 10:39 GMT
#41479
you can sell the beta keys on the steam store for like .03$ each or something
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
February 03 2013 10:52 GMT
#41480
On February 03 2013 19:11 Qbek wrote:
TA with troll was scary, refraction damage charges used in about a second

No-no-no.
You have not witnessed horror
Drow with troll is scary
In the woods, there lurks..
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