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Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 02 2013 22:36 GMT
#41421
On February 03 2013 07:35 FinestHour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 07:22 Torte de Lini wrote:
On February 03 2013 06:30 Qbek wrote:
On February 03 2013 06:28 Torte de Lini wrote:
On February 03 2013 06:24 Unleashing wrote:
On February 03 2013 06:09 Torte de Lini wrote:
What's the item build for troll? I get lifesteal after treads, but it takes so long.

Here's my general to go build for troll if i'm playing him mid.
I'll get a bottle relatively fast and use my nuke to get some rune control coupled with his good base movespeed.
Then i'll get phase boots, drum and hotd. After that i finish a BKB and after that items depend on enemies.
If i'm not mid i'll often get ring of aquila to make up for the mana i used to rely on bottle for.


Why do guides suggest lothar's on him?
And let's say I'm sidelaning.

Lothars has good stats and the active allows you to start the fight in melee range as well as disengage easily. Lothars best item


I can't seem to do HOTD and Lothars then BKB, so much farm.


its not that much gold, any other carry you would need a ton more to be effective
just make sure to stack ancients with dominated creep


Yeah how does that work? I can seem to get either roshan or kill stacked ancients with HOTD and maxed Fervor, I die too fast :x

I get treads btw
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
February 02 2013 22:37 GMT
#41422
On February 03 2013 07:36 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 07:35 FinestHour wrote:
On February 03 2013 07:22 Torte de Lini wrote:
On February 03 2013 06:30 Qbek wrote:
On February 03 2013 06:28 Torte de Lini wrote:
On February 03 2013 06:24 Unleashing wrote:
On February 03 2013 06:09 Torte de Lini wrote:
What's the item build for troll? I get lifesteal after treads, but it takes so long.

Here's my general to go build for troll if i'm playing him mid.
I'll get a bottle relatively fast and use my nuke to get some rune control coupled with his good base movespeed.
Then i'll get phase boots, drum and hotd. After that i finish a BKB and after that items depend on enemies.
If i'm not mid i'll often get ring of aquila to make up for the mana i used to rely on bottle for.


Why do guides suggest lothar's on him?
And let's say I'm sidelaning.

Lothars has good stats and the active allows you to start the fight in melee range as well as disengage easily. Lothars best item


I can't seem to do HOTD and Lothars then BKB, so much farm.


its not that much gold, any other carry you would need a ton more to be effective
just make sure to stack ancients with dominated creep


Yeah how does that work? I can seem to get either roshan or kill stacked ancients with HOTD and maxed Fervor, I die too fast :x

I get treads btw

Use ranged form for ancient stack, just kite them at the edge of your range. Keep spamming ult. For Rosh you need lvl 11 if you want to solo him.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
February 02 2013 22:39 GMT
#41423
On February 03 2013 07:25 TheKefka wrote:
Man I just played my best disruptor game ever,felt pro as shit,than I fired up the replay and saw a million mistakes that I made...sigh doto so hard


That was your mistake, hindsight is cruel. Should have felt pro and gone to the next game! But I have had the same general feel as well. I had a disurptor game as well where I knew I pissed the other team off. Sending them back, getting them killed, etc. The other team even said (after we beat them) MVP disruptor. I chose not to look at the replay since I know I make plenty of mistakes and want to hold onto that awesome feeling

Alas, have yet to have another game like that. I played with blitzdota as disruptor and I did alright, not brilliant. So eh,tough to find the perfect match and get into it.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-02 22:45:33
February 02 2013 22:45 GMT
#41424
Reasons people watch their own replay:

10%1%: to improve
90%99%: ya I remember that rampage, I was so good, omg my gpm so gosu.
WriterXiao8~~
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 02 2013 22:48 GMT
#41425
On February 03 2013 07:37 r.Evo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 07:36 Torte de Lini wrote:
On February 03 2013 07:35 FinestHour wrote:
On February 03 2013 07:22 Torte de Lini wrote:
On February 03 2013 06:30 Qbek wrote:
On February 03 2013 06:28 Torte de Lini wrote:
On February 03 2013 06:24 Unleashing wrote:
On February 03 2013 06:09 Torte de Lini wrote:
What's the item build for troll? I get lifesteal after treads, but it takes so long.

Here's my general to go build for troll if i'm playing him mid.
I'll get a bottle relatively fast and use my nuke to get some rune control coupled with his good base movespeed.
Then i'll get phase boots, drum and hotd. After that i finish a BKB and after that items depend on enemies.
If i'm not mid i'll often get ring of aquila to make up for the mana i used to rely on bottle for.


Why do guides suggest lothar's on him?
And let's say I'm sidelaning.

Lothars has good stats and the active allows you to start the fight in melee range as well as disengage easily. Lothars best item


I can't seem to do HOTD and Lothars then BKB, so much farm.


its not that much gold, any other carry you would need a ton more to be effective
just make sure to stack ancients with dominated creep


Yeah how does that work? I can seem to get either roshan or kill stacked ancients with HOTD and maxed Fervor, I die too fast :x

I get treads btw

Use ranged form for ancient stack, just kite them at the edge of your range. Keep spamming ult. For Rosh you need lvl 11 if you want to solo him.


Ah, see. I was trying at 9!

Thanks!
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
February 02 2013 22:49 GMT
#41426
Might as well watch your home made porn.

I hate watching replays where I did well. Always makes me feel bad. If I watch replays where I did bad I can feel good cause I can be like "OMG I CAN DO THIS AND THAT BETTER AND THEN I'LL CARRY MY TEAM TO VICTORY NEXT TIME EZ". :o
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
February 02 2013 22:50 GMT
#41427
I can't stand watching anything I did in the past. I don't even double-check spelling ):
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Kishin2
Profile Joined May 2011
United States7534 Posts
February 02 2013 22:57 GMT
#41428
I watch my replays to see why that hook that should have hit missed.
Shalaiyn
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands2735 Posts
February 02 2013 23:00 GMT
#41429
On February 03 2013 07:36 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 07:35 FinestHour wrote:
On February 03 2013 07:22 Torte de Lini wrote:
On February 03 2013 06:30 Qbek wrote:
On February 03 2013 06:28 Torte de Lini wrote:
On February 03 2013 06:24 Unleashing wrote:
On February 03 2013 06:09 Torte de Lini wrote:
What's the item build for troll? I get lifesteal after treads, but it takes so long.

Here's my general to go build for troll if i'm playing him mid.
I'll get a bottle relatively fast and use my nuke to get some rune control coupled with his good base movespeed.
Then i'll get phase boots, drum and hotd. After that i finish a BKB and after that items depend on enemies.
If i'm not mid i'll often get ring of aquila to make up for the mana i used to rely on bottle for.


Why do guides suggest lothar's on him?
And let's say I'm sidelaning.

Lothars has good stats and the active allows you to start the fight in melee range as well as disengage easily. Lothars best item


I can't seem to do HOTD and Lothars then BKB, so much farm.


its not that much gold, any other carry you would need a ton more to be effective
just make sure to stack ancients with dominated creep


Yeah how does that work? I can seem to get either roshan or kill stacked ancients with HOTD and maxed Fervor, I die too fast :x

I get treads btw


Get an ogre magi neutral on your side. You won't go under 98%.
Talron
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany7651 Posts
February 02 2013 23:18 GMT
#41430
On February 03 2013 07:45 Kipsate wrote:
Reasons people watch their own replay:

10%1%: to improve
90%99%: ya I remember that rampage, I was so good, omg my gpm so gosu.

Or: "Who was that freaking noob feeding enemy AM?!" - Around 50% of the time.
EHOME 2010 never forget EHOME.GIGABYTE.AAA B-God In BurNing we trust BurNing your soul DK 2011-2014
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
February 02 2013 23:47 GMT
#41431
On February 03 2013 08:18 Talron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 07:45 Kipsate wrote:
Reasons people watch their own replay:

10%1%: to improve
90%99%: ya I remember that rampage, I was so good, omg my gpm so gosu.

Or: "Who was that freaking noob feeding enemy AM?!" - Around 50% of the time.


I think I have done it once or twice in the past to see whom decided on repeatedly killing off the courier to report the person. If it is obvious than that is fine, but trying to be all sneaky about it, hell no.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
February 03 2013 00:02 GMT
#41432
Damn why do Rhasta's wards give so much gold? They die in 1-2 hits each. So tricky to place it properly to avoid feeding the gold.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
February 03 2013 00:07 GMT
#41433
On February 03 2013 09:02 trinxified wrote:
Damn why do Rhasta's wards give so much gold? They die in 1-2 hits each. So tricky to place it properly to avoid feeding the gold.

answered your own question.
ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
February 03 2013 00:12 GMT
#41434
On February 03 2013 06:33 Skullflower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 06:05 ArcticRaven wrote:
If you get last hits vs hard bots then you'll violently outlane mostly everyone.


Especially if it's Sniper. That one is fucking impossible to lane against


At least with Sniper you don't have the humiliation of being permadenied by Lina like in my very first game TT

doto so hard
[Govie] Wierd shit, on a 6 game AP winning streak with KOTL in the trench. I searched gandalf quotes and spammed them all game long, trenchwarfare247, whateva it takes!
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
February 03 2013 00:31 GMT
#41435
nevuk do you have more than one account
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
RageBot
Profile Joined November 2010
Israel1530 Posts
February 03 2013 00:42 GMT
#41436
Is is really hard to play Anti-Mage in pubs or do I just really suck with him?
Cool Cat
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1644 Posts
February 03 2013 00:43 GMT
#41437
On February 03 2013 09:42 RageBot wrote:
Is is really hard to play Anti-Mage in pubs or do I just really suck with him?

both
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
February 03 2013 00:44 GMT
#41438
On February 03 2013 09:31 FinestHour wrote:
nevuk do you have more than one account

On TL? No. I do have 2 steam accounts. One of those is mostly used for playing with rl friends. (I have never played with a tl member on it). The main one was named oiphal until recently when I switched it back to nevuk. (thus my stream name). That might be causing confusion a little.
gaymon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Germany1023 Posts
February 03 2013 01:28 GMT
#41439
On February 03 2013 07:48 Torte de Lini wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2013 07:37 r.Evo wrote:
On February 03 2013 07:36 Torte de Lini wrote:
On February 03 2013 07:35 FinestHour wrote:
On February 03 2013 07:22 Torte de Lini wrote:
On February 03 2013 06:30 Qbek wrote:
On February 03 2013 06:28 Torte de Lini wrote:
On February 03 2013 06:24 Unleashing wrote:
On February 03 2013 06:09 Torte de Lini wrote:
What's the item build for troll? I get lifesteal after treads, but it takes so long.

Here's my general to go build for troll if i'm playing him mid.
I'll get a bottle relatively fast and use my nuke to get some rune control coupled with his good base movespeed.
Then i'll get phase boots, drum and hotd. After that i finish a BKB and after that items depend on enemies.
If i'm not mid i'll often get ring of aquila to make up for the mana i used to rely on bottle for.


Why do guides suggest lothar's on him?
And let's say I'm sidelaning.

Lothars has good stats and the active allows you to start the fight in melee range as well as disengage easily. Lothars best item


I can't seem to do HOTD and Lothars then BKB, so much farm.


its not that much gold, any other carry you would need a ton more to be effective
just make sure to stack ancients with dominated creep


Yeah how does that work? I can seem to get either roshan or kill stacked ancients with HOTD and maxed Fervor, I die too fast :x

I get treads btw

Use ranged form for ancient stack, just kite them at the edge of your range. Keep spamming ult. For Rosh you need lvl 11 if you want to solo him.


Ah, see. I was trying at 9!

Thanks!


you can do him on 6 with hotd and boots
all you need to be is crafty

(dominate an ogre magi to give urself frost armor)
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
February 03 2013 02:22 GMT
#41440
I don't have wc3 on this computer, but is it true that tranquils break at 20 damage post-mitigation from any damage source besides hp removal in dota 1?
If so that means they're incredibly different in dota 2. (It's #164 on the low priority bugs)

http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=52510&page=2
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