General Discussion - Page 2076

On February 04 2013 01:36 Benjef wrote:
http://dotabuff.com/matches/115912267

Biggest throw of my life. We had megas at 50 minutes. AM got 2 rapiers and well. We lost.

On February 04 2013 01:29 SirMilford wrote:

Wasn't the NDA. I can't remember there being one. The amazing small community+kick/ban who you want (no matchmaking). New heroes+dota heroes with amazing reconnect features. The entire staff played a ton of games with everyone. Basically it was a great time to love hon, as horrible as it sounds basically before it got popular.

On February 04 2013 02:38 unkkz wrote:
Btw since people mentioned HoN, anyone know the differences between razer(Corrupted disciple) in HoN and Dota? Since he was first pick/ban material for a looong time in pro games i noticed in HoN and was used a shit ton but in dota he pretty much seems to be scrub tier. Can it be becauase vanguard(Helm of the black legion) is a lot better in HoN then it is in dota?

On February 04 2013 01:49 Makenshi wrote:


ah from what i heard it was like something was removed from the beta that made it less good? i thought it was a feature or gameplay related, thanks tho been really interested since i heard about it what it was :p

On February 04 2013 02:10 trifecta wrote:


Rapiers are one hell of a drug

On February 04 2013 02:38 unkkz wrote:
Btw since people mentioned HoN, anyone know the differences between razer(Corrupted disciple) in HoN and Dota? Since he was first pick/ban material for a looong time in pro games i noticed in HoN and was used a shit ton but in dota he pretty much seems to be scrub tier. Can it be becauase vanguard(Helm of the black legion) is a lot better in HoN then it is in dota?

On February 04 2013 01:49 Makenshi wrote:


ah from what i heard it was like something was removed from the beta that made it less good? i thought it was a feature or gameplay related, thanks tho been really interested since i heard about it what it was :p

On February 04 2013 02:51 aintz wrote:


S&Y in hon is much better than it is in dota2. imba item.

On February 04 2013 02:42 TheKefka wrote:

Every time I get a rapier on my brewmaster the throne dies like 2 seconds after lol...never get to brawl throw with one.

On February 04 2013 02:54 Mataza wrote:

Well it wasn't one thing, it was a lot of things. What are deliberate design decisions in Dota were revoked and changed in HoN. They also started churning out heroes without care.

Wards were sold separately, making them noncommittal. The charge mechanic was introduced with pandamonium, reducing opportunity cost of not using spells right on cooldown(Midas in HoN runs on charges nowadays for example). Sange was changed into a small Skadi effect, changing Sange and Yasha into a reliable slow. They forced a 4th basic all-stat item into existence, the +4 to everything major totem(minor totem was iron branch). I think it's currently only used as part of the forcestaff adaption. They made Harkons Blade, an item that tranforms your rightclick dps into magic damage, skewereing damage balance.
They apparently also made an int sange & yasha part when I recently checked(Lightbrand, as opposed to the traditional Fire- and Icebrand). They also combine into 1 big item with 3 parts.
Their self made heroes also declined in originality and quality over time. The last straw for me was Flux, the magnet hero. He either pushes enemy away from him or pulls them closer. With all 4 of his skills....
My friend told me, that most new heroes were either really op or really up. Also apparently they favor spamming small cheap spells as of their latter hero designs.
Also most of the new heroes I read up where kinda stupid.

I'm pretty sure that at the beginning IceFrog worked together with them and at some point stopped. I can only imagine that he left because of stupidity or their unwillingness to heed his holy advice for design.

On February 04 2013 02:59 PrinceXizor wrote:

Hmmmm Rush rapier from now on, solve all problems >:D

On February 04 2013 03:13 BlitzerSC wrote:
HoN wasn't as bad as many people make it out to be. I enjoyed a lot that game during beta/early release.

But suddenly

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On February 04 2013 03:19 TheKefka wrote:

But than they all just run away from me without my blink stagger

On February 04 2013 03:52 Talron wrote:
Interview with IceFrog Statman Bruno: http://blog.furryfish.me/2013/02/interview-statsman-bruno.html

Nice read imo. He's flying to Sweden on the 10th February, so we might even see him on the GD show on 11th.

I’m glad to see Team MatchMaking and Tutorials in the works. I think it’s clear that will wrap up the main game features. Team Matchmaking will probably satiate the hunger of those who want to measure their comparative strength with others, and for those who don’t have a team, I wouldn’t be surprised at all if there was some kind of “lobby” where you can make a temporary party just to match yourself against consolidated teams.