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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-25 15:24:05
January 25 2013 15:23 GMT
#39921
Sven support can perhaps work with troll ultimate, then again you still have a troll on your team then. Sven with just Gods strength and a decent amount of attack speed will do wonders.
WriterXiao8~~
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
January 25 2013 15:23 GMT
#39922
On January 26 2013 00:18 Qbek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 00:16 teapoted wrote:
He's had the global ulti for quite a while though hasn't he. It's not 'that' good. I mean we have to compare it to other ultimates, and in that context it has much less impact than most of them.

It has one of the lower impacts at level 1 of all ulties, 60 ias isn't THAT big :/

it's slightly better than giving a midas (stats only) to every ally, which we all know midas doesn't actually help too much in fights.
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-25 15:28:56
January 25 2013 15:28 GMT
#39923
On January 26 2013 00:23 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 00:18 Qbek wrote:
On January 26 2013 00:16 teapoted wrote:
He's had the global ulti for quite a while though hasn't he. It's not 'that' good. I mean we have to compare it to other ultimates, and in that context it has much less impact than most of them.

It has one of the lower impacts at level 1 of all ulties, 60 ias isn't THAT big :/

it's slightly better than giving a midas (stats only) to every ally, which we all know midas doesn't actually help too much in fights.

at lvl 11 however it does give 120 ias.

if you can stall and have a utility troll or so lategame, I think it'll be quite fearsome.

I might be wrong, but really, it seems so, so strong.
https://soundcloud.com/papercranesdk
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
January 25 2013 15:29 GMT
#39924
On January 26 2013 00:09 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 00:00 Testuser wrote:
Wait, troll ulti has a cd of fucking 20 sec?

what

Seriously, this needs to be exploited somehow. Every 20 seconds, all allied heroes get double mjollnir worth of attack speed for 10 seconds. There's just so much potential for broken all aura strats now.


Tiny + Troll can be pretty hilarious.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
January 25 2013 15:30 GMT
#39925
On January 26 2013 00:23 Kipsate wrote:
Sven support can perhaps work with troll ultimate, then again you still have a troll on your team then. Sven with just Gods strength and a decent amount of attack speed will do wonders.


Support svens problem is being able to live in melee range which troll ultimate doesn't do anything for.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-25 15:32:15
January 25 2013 15:30 GMT
#39926
Beastmaster +Wisp+Troll+X

good for trolling.

OT: Chuan has some of the worst and the best music.
WriterXiao8~~
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
January 25 2013 15:32 GMT
#39927
On January 26 2013 00:30 Kipsate wrote:
Beastmaster +Wisp+Troll+X

good for trolling.

sven + venge. Or sylla since the bear gets the bonus from trance ahaha
BEAR DEALS MASSIVE DAMAGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
January 25 2013 15:32 GMT
#39928
On January 26 2013 00:23 Kipsate wrote:
Sven support can perhaps work with troll ultimate, then again you still have a troll on your team then. Sven with just Gods strength and a decent amount of attack speed will do wonders.

This is the biggest hurdle for trying to work out a team that works with troll, lol.
Athough, his laning seems pretty good now. Having the option between ranged and melee is always good when laning, and whirling axes is just sick for laning. It does huge damage on level one for little mana. The problem is what he does after that. He can't gank, farms slowly, so I guess you have to 5-man with him and try to use the ulty as much as possible. I don't know why you would use him instead of luna for example, but whatever.
super gg
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 25 2013 15:32 GMT
#39929
Obviously both these heroes are awful, but I feel like spirit breaker would really benefit from being on troll's team.

And, of course, every opposing hero would just get a ghost scepter rofl.
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cilinder007
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia7251 Posts
January 25 2013 15:32 GMT
#39930
X=tiny
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
January 25 2013 15:39 GMT
#39931
Is there an official release date? I thought the game should have come out on last year already.
I had a good night of sleep.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 25 2013 15:44 GMT
#39932
On January 26 2013 00:39 Koshi wrote:
Is there an official release date? I thought the game should have come out on last year already.


No official release date, valve treats the game as a launched product but don't want people waiting for release to see the game without any real tutorials/learning system. Once valve implements their "help noobs" system the game will go open beta/release. Also important to get all the heroes ported of course.
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.Wraath
Profile Joined May 2012
United States262 Posts
January 25 2013 16:03 GMT
#39933
On January 25 2013 15:17 .Wraath wrote:
probably has been asked before, but why isnt there a resign command?

There was that in PvP Guild Wars and it saved a lot of time when trying to get matches in.


Bump for this, still curious... Seems like it would be good thing for everyone.
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
January 25 2013 16:04 GMT
#39934
On January 26 2013 01:03 .Wraath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 15:17 .Wraath wrote:
probably has been asked before, but why isnt there a resign command?

There was that in PvP Guild Wars and it saved a lot of time when trying to get matches in.


Bump for this, still curious... Seems like it would be good thing for everyone.

The option to concede/resign has been discussed a thousand times...
https://soundcloud.com/papercranesdk
.Wraath
Profile Joined May 2012
United States262 Posts
January 25 2013 16:06 GMT
#39935
On January 26 2013 01:04 Testuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2013 01:03 .Wraath wrote:
On January 25 2013 15:17 .Wraath wrote:
probably has been asked before, but why isnt there a resign command?

There was that in PvP Guild Wars and it saved a lot of time when trying to get matches in.


Bump for this, still curious... Seems like it would be good thing for everyone.

The option to concede/resign has been discussed a thousand times...



I just started playing DotA 2 a couple weeks ago, hence why I am asking.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
January 25 2013 16:08 GMT
#39936
Valve and Icefrog have discussed the pros and cons of implementing it, and they decided against it.
Their are many reasons but the primary one is concerns that with concede available the quality of games overall will decline.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Daozzt
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1263 Posts
January 25 2013 16:11 GMT
#39937
People will spam "gg concede 15" after giving up fb and it changes the mentality of everyone playing, so game quality will be worse.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 25 2013 16:16 GMT
#39938
If you detect a fountain-farm incoming, just smoke your way to the enemies jungle and farm that while they farm your allies at base.

Thats my best tip to make the really bad losses somewhat more bearable (the ones where you got stomped pretty hard but at least it hopefully wasn't a ragefest on your side).

Really, I'd like a concede as well, (or a way to force people to push & end).
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.Wraath
Profile Joined May 2012
United States262 Posts
January 25 2013 16:17 GMT
#39939
On January 26 2013 01:11 Daozzt wrote:
People will spam "gg concede 15" after giving up fb and it changes the mentality of everyone playing, so game quality will be worse.


While this may be true, in my experience with random teams in GW that never happened unless it was painfully obvious that it was becoming a waste of time.

I think the pros outweigh the cons. These games already take a long time on avg, and speeding it up so you can play more matches is a good thing for people without a lot of time.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
January 25 2013 16:17 GMT
#39940
Does anyone else LOVE Trolls lines? When I lost a game with him he said "Dont blame me! I did everything right!"
He is like an actual raging nerd.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
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