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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-24 21:40:17
January 24 2013 21:40 GMT
#39641
I don't mind treant but that last 6 page discussion was no bueno haha.

I actually got owned by a treant few weeks ago.. he some how crushed our safe lane with UD and had radiance at like 17m.

~_~
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
January 24 2013 21:42 GMT
#39642
On January 25 2013 06:40 crms wrote:
I don't mind treant but that last 6 page discussion was no bueno haha.

I actually got owned by a treant few weeks ago.. he some how crushed our safe lane with UD and had radiance at like 17m.

~_~

thats a shame, if he was doing so well he should have gotten a dagon, nothing more amusing than the driveby dagon 5 without unstealthing.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
January 24 2013 21:42 GMT
#39643
Excited juggernaut is now my new favourite thing in the world.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
January 24 2013 21:44 GMT
#39644
On January 25 2013 06:31 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 06:25 bardtown wrote:
I was thinking about Treant. He's too weak because he needs all 3 of his spells to be useful. If you don't get the slow, you can't kill anything, if you don't get the heal - why are you playing this hero?, if you don't get invis you can't offlane, and if you don't level it high you can't support the mana cost to use it. All his spells scale well, but only in the early game. If you were to choose two to level then max out the last one at the end, the damage/heal/mana cost change would be worthless. I think his heal and leech seed should be combined into one spell that can be used on allies and enemies, then he should be given a passive aswell.

If your offlaning why do you need to kill early on, if you are supporting why do you need to be invis. leech seed alone is enough to win a large amount of early-mid game team fights, while living armor is enough to prevent a diligent protector from losing a tower to anything but a concentrated push, to which he can teleport.

treant is very powerful, but his meta isn't here right now. He works well in the medusa style of game so much so that i feel medusa + treant is a combo that shouldn't be given up in that meta.


You can't just sit in the offlane until you're level 12 or something, and mid is most likely to come gank on the offlane, so you want some capability to gank. Then if you wait to level leech seed the damage is nothing, so you want it early. Invis is a supporting spell too because you can use it to help lane partner escape.

I'm going to keep playing him a bit, but I feel like choosing between the 3 spells is too hard. I guess I'll max invis and heal first making me worthless in combat until the midgame. Just don't think that's a choice you should have to make.
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-24 22:11:37
January 24 2013 21:44 GMT
#39645
I actually made a suggestion thread on PD about giving some sort of synergy to treant's ulti with leech seed and 0 response last time i checked (was not a very active forum anyway).

So, PA rushing Divine first item, legit?
is 2017, stop being lame, fuck's sakes. 'Can't wait for the rise of the cakes and humanity's last stand tbqh.'
bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
January 24 2013 21:45 GMT
#39646
On January 25 2013 06:44 BurningSera wrote:
I actually made a suggestion thread on PD about giving some sort of synergy to treant with leech seed and 0 response last time i checked (was not a very active forum anyway).

So, PA rushing Divine first item, legit?


I like the idea. Trying it later. :D
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 24 2013 21:46 GMT
#39647
On January 25 2013 06:44 BurningSera wrote:
I actually made a suggestion thread on PD about giving some sort of synergy to treant with leech seed and 0 response last time i checked (was not a very active forum anyway).

So, PA rushing Divine first item, legit?

Gyro Divine first is usually better.
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
January 24 2013 21:47 GMT
#39648
On January 25 2013 06:46 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 06:44 BurningSera wrote:
I actually made a suggestion thread on PD about giving some sort of synergy to treant with leech seed and 0 response last time i checked (was not a very active forum anyway).

So, PA rushing Divine first item, legit?

Gyro Divine first is usually better.

i did that, and you die less when you don't get boots and just bottle/rapier
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 24 2013 21:50 GMT
#39649
On January 25 2013 06:47 Erasme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 06:46 Comeh wrote:
On January 25 2013 06:44 BurningSera wrote:
I actually made a suggestion thread on PD about giving some sort of synergy to treant with leech seed and 0 response last time i checked (was not a very active forum anyway).

So, PA rushing Divine first item, legit?

Gyro Divine first is usually better.

i did that, and you die less when you don't get boots and just bottle/rapier

Bottle seems a bit excessive, can't you get around it with some tangoes and maybe a clarity or two?
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 24 2013 21:55 GMT
#39650
Treant discussion is the worst thing that happens to this thread every so often.
WriterXiao8~~
Andre
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Slovenia3523 Posts
January 24 2013 21:59 GMT
#39651
Is treant the new Meepo? There are people with 60-70% winrates with Meepo.

Anybody got a 50%+winrate with treant and at least 50 games?
You must gather your party before venturing forth.
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 24 2013 22:04 GMT
#39652
On January 25 2013 06:59 Andr3 wrote:
Is treant the new Meepo? There are people with 60-70% winrates with Meepo.

Anybody got a 50%+winrate with treant and at least 50 games?

Someone streaming only treant account - the new cure for insomnia.
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-24 22:05:25
January 24 2013 22:04 GMT
#39653
On January 25 2013 06:59 Andr3 wrote:
Is treant the new Meepo? There are people with 60-70% winrates with Meepo.

Anybody got a 50%+winrate with treant and at least 50 games?

Nah he's just a character designed to take advantage of the slow pace of the game in order to abuse tele-overgrowth and keep a tower advantage at all times.

On January 25 2013 07:04 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 06:59 Andr3 wrote:
Is treant the new Meepo? There are people with 60-70% winrates with Meepo.

Anybody got a 50%+winrate with treant and at least 50 games?

Someone streaming only treant account - the new cure for insomnia.


I'd honestly do a treant only account TReant was my sentinel main competitively a long time ago
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 24 2013 22:09 GMT
#39654
On January 25 2013 07:04 PrinceXizor wrote:
I'd honestly do a treant only account TReant was my sentinel main competitively a long time ago


How many reworks ago is this?

I mean, I picked treant ~half my games for a while, but that was when he had those tree eyes and stuff (K this is HoN but I think he was like that briefly in dota 1?). Also when he had monstrously huge strength gain.

Solo mid tree, Midas/Treads/Radi/MoM. EZ GAME EZ LIFE.

I don't think thats really comparable to current tree unfortunately
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AkalineMess
Profile Joined December 2012
249 Posts
January 24 2013 22:22 GMT
#39655
I am doing a Treant only account.

https://dotabuff.com/players/121437001

I have a fairly good idea what Treant is capable of doing. He is actually a mid game monster.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-24 22:24:57
January 24 2013 22:24 GMT
#39656
On January 25 2013 07:09 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 07:04 PrinceXizor wrote:
I'd honestly do a treant only account TReant was my sentinel main competitively a long time ago


How many reworks ago is this?

I mean, I picked treant ~half my games for a while, but that was when he had those tree eyes and stuff (K this is HoN but I think he was like that briefly in dota 1?). Also when he had monstrously huge strength gain.

Solo mid tree, Midas/Treads/Radi/MoM. EZ GAME EZ LIFE.

I don't think thats really comparable to current tree unfortunately

He had eyes in the forest and i had the need to specify that i had a sentinel main and a scourge main. xD a long time ago man loooong time. hon did not exist.
duoform
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain5180 Posts
January 24 2013 22:25 GMT
#39657
On January 25 2013 07:22 AkalineMess wrote:
I am doing a Treant only account.

https://dotabuff.com/players/121437001

I have a fairly good idea what Treant is capable of doing. He is actually a mid game monster.

Nyovne.. is that you buddy?
"I really like Marauders and Marines." - Flash
bardtown
Profile Joined June 2011
England2313 Posts
January 24 2013 22:31 GMT
#39658
On January 25 2013 07:22 AkalineMess wrote:
I am doing a Treant only account.

https://dotabuff.com/players/121437001

I have a fairly good idea what Treant is capable of doing. He is actually a mid game monster.


What do you recommend as a skill build?
ControlMonkey
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia3109 Posts
January 24 2013 22:32 GMT
#39659
On January 25 2013 06:46 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 06:44 BurningSera wrote:
I actually made a suggestion thread on PD about giving some sort of synergy to treant with leech seed and 0 response last time i checked (was not a very active forum anyway).

So, PA rushing Divine first item, legit?

Gyro Divine first is usually better.


There was a D2L match where Nth went boots - drums - rapier on gyro. It was awesome until they died and lost it. It's a surprisingly legit item on a carry gyro.
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
January 24 2013 22:36 GMT
#39660
On January 25 2013 07:22 AkalineMess wrote:
I am doing a Treant only account.

https://dotabuff.com/players/121437001

I have a fairly good idea what Treant is capable of doing. He is actually a mid game monster.

THAT IS A PUCK NOT A TREANT I SEE!

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