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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-24 23:18:42
January 24 2013 23:18 GMT
#39681
On January 25 2013 08:16 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 08:12 TheYango wrote:
On January 25 2013 08:10 Numy wrote:
I'd take BM over DK or SK when it comes to melees. BM has like best cast animation/base damage in the game man.

Beastmaster's cast animation sucks. His autoattack animation is good, but his cast animation windup is 0.5, which is awful.

DK and SK both have 0-windup casts.

with how heavily you value animation Io must be the best base hero to you. :/

Io's ok. His problem is that his stat growths are terrible (no stat growths above 2). 0 base armor also sucks.
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
January 24 2013 23:19 GMT
#39682
travel time of his stun maybe
but best heroes without items/spells are probably ns/bm/sb
and there is a sheet somewhere in this tread with the response huhuhu
around 1200 if my brain serves me right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
January 24 2013 23:20 GMT
#39683
On January 25 2013 08:16 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 08:12 TheYango wrote:
On January 25 2013 08:10 Numy wrote:
I'd take BM over DK or SK when it comes to melees. BM has like best cast animation/base damage in the game man.

Beastmaster's cast animation sucks. His autoattack animation is good, but his cast animation windup is 0.5, which is awful.

DK and SK both have 0-windup casts.

with how heavily you value animation Io must be the best base hero to you. :/

Cast animation IS that important, because you always run degenerate combos, so getting to cast them before the other guy casts his is the key. That applies to casters, of course.
super gg
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 24 2013 23:20 GMT
#39684
On January 25 2013 08:19 Erasme wrote:
travel time of his stun maybe
but best heroes without items/spells are probably ns/bm/sb
and there is a sheet somewhere in this tread with the response huhuhu
around 1200 if my brain serves me right

That's sort of not the same thing though. Best no-skills hero and best "base hero" for building a hero are 2 different things.
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llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2147 Posts
January 24 2013 23:22 GMT
#39685
BM's aura is actually pretty useful.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
January 24 2013 23:26 GMT
#39686
On January 25 2013 08:20 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 08:19 Erasme wrote:
travel time of his stun maybe
but best heroes without items/spells are probably ns/bm/sb
and there is a sheet somewhere in this tread with the response huhuhu
around 1200 if my brain serves me right

That's sort of not the same thing though. Best no-skills hero and best "base hero" for building a hero are 2 different things.

thats true, then you should consider chen. Ranged, little to no animation, very fast attack projectile. dno about his stats growth tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-24 23:32:15
January 24 2013 23:29 GMT
#39687
o yea sven and ns are pretty ownage too
best melee carries just get dispersion + bristleback/dk passive/drunken passive + single target stun (sven is one of the best) + magnus ult or beastmaster ult (or old cent ult)
best ranged carries stack passives plus a single target or aoe stun
like feast + bm aura + sven stun + drow ult
best casters just get mobility + stuns
shukuchi + sven stun + lina stun + beastmaster ult for example
or sven stun + shukuchi + furion tp + beastmaster ult

there's a lot of really dumb combos u can do, everything's a super disabler or a super carry

edit: oh there's also vacuum + magnus ult or vacuum + black hole or vacuum + ravage on one hero
i've seen vacuum + magnus ult + sven stun + surge before, it's p sick
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-24 23:33:54
January 24 2013 23:32 GMT
#39688
My personal favorite is still Aftershock+Shadow Poison/Sticky Napalm/Nasal Goo/etc.

Not necessarily good, but funny.

Essence Shift on ranged would also be broken as fuck if it wasn't disabled, lol.
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
January 24 2013 23:43 GMT
#39689
On January 25 2013 08:32 TheYango wrote:
My personal favorite is still Aftershock+Shadow Poison/Sticky Napalm/Nasal Goo/etc.

Not necessarily good, but funny.

Essence Shift on ranged would also be broken as fuck if it wasn't disabled, lol.

Aftershock is fun with chakram :D
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-24 23:46:49
January 24 2013 23:43 GMT
#39690
Sticky napalm + ion shell is an absurd amount of damage and superb laning.
Just look how much damage it does:


edit: add nature's guise and an ultimate of you choice for absolute craziness.
super gg
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 24 2013 23:57 GMT
#39691
I'm pretty sure Napalm+Ion Shell wouldn't work in LoD for DotA 2, because the DotA 2 implementation of Ion Shell does damage in 0.1 second intervals.
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
January 24 2013 23:58 GMT
#39692
On January 25 2013 08:43 cecek wrote:
Sticky napalm + ion shell is an absurd amount of damage and superb laning.
Just look how much damage it does: http://youtu.be/MLYw--srxkA?t=6m38s

edit: add nature's guise and an ultimate of you choice for absolute craziness.

Should probably put Duel on as an ultimate right? after all the stacks and ion shell you pretty much auto win the duel.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-25 00:06:03
January 25 2013 00:03 GMT
#39693
On January 25 2013 08:58 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2013 08:43 cecek wrote:
Sticky napalm + ion shell is an absurd amount of damage and superb laning.
Just look how much damage it does: http://youtu.be/MLYw--srxkA?t=6m38s

edit: add nature's guise and an ultimate of you choice for absolute craziness.

Should probably put Duel on as an ultimate right? after all the stacks and ion shell you pretty much auto win the duel.

That sounds fun :D You could also go all in and take rupture, that's a very fast dot too, I think. Or slark's shadowdance to be able to keep up with ion shell on you. Nature's guise is probably pretty useless, I think something like a waveform should be much better overall. I gotta try waveform, ion shell, sticky napalm, shadowdance when (if ever) LoD comes to Dota 2.

edit: Or bladefury for magic immune and more dot for sticky napalm procs. But you can't recast stickys in bladefury, so that probably sucks. Dammit I need to play some LoD, lol.
super gg
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
January 25 2013 00:15 GMT
#39694
how works multicast on napalm and ion shell ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
January 25 2013 00:18 GMT
#39695
On January 25 2013 09:15 Erasme wrote:
how works multicast on napalm and ion shell ?

I think multicast only works on Ogre spells and does nothing if you don't have them. Not 100% sure, tho.
super gg
Rice
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1332 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-25 00:53:26
January 25 2013 00:51 GMT
#39696
sticky napalm aftershock sounds like it could be fun :D
Freedom will be defended at the cost of civil liberties.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-25 01:04:17
January 25 2013 00:59 GMT
#39697
Hmm what do you think would be the most powerful hero if you could replace 1 skill with another of the same type.

Like a stun -> stun a passive -> passive ultimate -> ultimate ect.

thinking that i could really like sadism on timbersaw/shredder

though imagine the monstrosity that would be lycan with demonic conversion.
Wysp
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Canada2299 Posts
January 25 2013 01:25 GMT
#39698
WHERE IS PATCH. wat do without troll...
an overdeveloped sense of self preservation
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
January 25 2013 01:29 GMT
#39699
Now Medusa is out.

I am now waiting for Terrorblade and TC.
Play your best
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
January 25 2013 02:15 GMT
#39700
i want tb too
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
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