travel time of his stun maybe but best heroes without items/spells are probably ns/bm/sb and there is a sheet somewhere in this tread with the response huhuhu around 1200 if my brain serves me right
On January 25 2013 08:10 Numy wrote: I'd take BM over DK or SK when it comes to melees. BM has like best cast animation/base damage in the game man.
Beastmaster's cast animation sucks. His autoattack animation is good, but his cast animation windup is 0.5, which is awful.
DK and SK both have 0-windup casts.
with how heavily you value animation Io must be the best base hero to you. :/
Cast animation IS that important, because you always run degenerate combos, so getting to cast them before the other guy casts his is the key. That applies to casters, of course.
On January 25 2013 08:19 Erasme wrote: travel time of his stun maybe but best heroes without items/spells are probably ns/bm/sb and there is a sheet somewhere in this tread with the response huhuhu around 1200 if my brain serves me right
That's sort of not the same thing though. Best no-skills hero and best "base hero" for building a hero are 2 different things.
On January 25 2013 08:19 Erasme wrote: travel time of his stun maybe but best heroes without items/spells are probably ns/bm/sb and there is a sheet somewhere in this tread with the response huhuhu around 1200 if my brain serves me right
That's sort of not the same thing though. Best no-skills hero and best "base hero" for building a hero are 2 different things.
thats true, then you should consider chen. Ranged, little to no animation, very fast attack projectile. dno about his stats growth tho
o yea sven and ns are pretty ownage too best melee carries just get dispersion + bristleback/dk passive/drunken passive + single target stun (sven is one of the best) + magnus ult or beastmaster ult (or old cent ult) best ranged carries stack passives plus a single target or aoe stun like feast + bm aura + sven stun + drow ult best casters just get mobility + stuns shukuchi + sven stun + lina stun + beastmaster ult for example or sven stun + shukuchi + furion tp + beastmaster ult
there's a lot of really dumb combos u can do, everything's a super disabler or a super carry
edit: oh there's also vacuum + magnus ult or vacuum + black hole or vacuum + ravage on one hero i've seen vacuum + magnus ult + sven stun + surge before, it's p sick
On January 25 2013 08:43 cecek wrote: Sticky napalm + ion shell is an absurd amount of damage and superb laning. Just look how much damage it does: http://youtu.be/MLYw--srxkA?t=6m38s
edit: add nature's guise and an ultimate of you choice for absolute craziness.
Should probably put Duel on as an ultimate right? after all the stacks and ion shell you pretty much auto win the duel.
On January 25 2013 08:43 cecek wrote: Sticky napalm + ion shell is an absurd amount of damage and superb laning. Just look how much damage it does: http://youtu.be/MLYw--srxkA?t=6m38s
edit: add nature's guise and an ultimate of you choice for absolute craziness.
Should probably put Duel on as an ultimate right? after all the stacks and ion shell you pretty much auto win the duel.
That sounds fun :D You could also go all in and take rupture, that's a very fast dot too, I think. Or slark's shadowdance to be able to keep up with ion shell on you. Nature's guise is probably pretty useless, I think something like a waveform should be much better overall. I gotta try waveform, ion shell, sticky napalm, shadowdance when (if ever) LoD comes to Dota 2.
edit: Or bladefury for magic immune and more dot for sticky napalm procs. But you can't recast stickys in bladefury, so that probably sucks. Dammit I need to play some LoD, lol.