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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 22 2013 16:38 GMT
#38981
On January 23 2013 01:32 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 01:29 Unleashing wrote:
I think sing's new team includes CWM and bamboe, atleast CWM. Sing's talking about scrimming with his new team lately to find their own rythm and playstyle, he also pubbed a lot with CWM and CWM just said he's been scrimming a lot since saturday with his new team.
The old mouz is almost together again, IF it is the case anyway.

CWM zzzzzzz every single team that guy is in break ups rather fast and always has drama. He isn't even that good a player to warrant all the teams he's been in.


Not to player bash, but I agree with this. I don't see what the attraction is to playing with him.
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Aixler
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands946 Posts
January 22 2013 16:40 GMT
#38982
Lack of alternatives i guess.
teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-22 16:46:41
January 22 2013 16:44 GMT
#38983
So Sing leaves a team because he wants to take the game more seriously.

Makes new team with same people.

Although I guess I like the idea of having Sing/Bamboe/CWM/Waga on a team, not that they'll have much of a chance in competitions, but they'll at least have a lot of fans and drive viewers.
Once you Goblak...
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
January 22 2013 17:04 GMT
#38984
On January 23 2013 01:29 Unleashing wrote:
I think sing's new team includes CWM and bamboe, atleast CWM. Sing's talking about scrimming with his new team lately to find their own rythm and playstyle, he also pubbed a lot with CWM and CWM just said he's been scrimming a lot since saturday with his new team.
The old mouz is almost together again, IF it is the case anyway.


cwm said that bamboe is not part of it
ffxiv enjoyer
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
January 22 2013 17:20 GMT
#38985
So i thought the only way a necro melee creep will not do damage is if it expires or midas'd.

Purging with diffusal, or demonic purge, etc. Is still dmg right? Medusa's ult doesnt dmg her tho when it instant dispels necro units even at level 3.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
January 22 2013 17:36 GMT
#38986
I won a pub game vs a drow nyx spirit breaker centaur invoker line up, it makes me believe in dota.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
January 22 2013 17:42 GMT
#38987
On January 23 2013 02:20 trinxified wrote:
So i thought the only way a necro melee creep will not do damage is if it expires or midas'd.

Purging with diffusal, or demonic purge, etc. Is still dmg right? Medusa's ult doesnt dmg her tho when it instant dispels necro units even at level 3.

Not 100% sure, but I think purge (at least the one from diffusal) does 10k damage to summoned units and illusions, so it is damage. You can also kill the necro with naix infest and it does no damage.
super gg
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-22 17:52:44
January 22 2013 17:44 GMT
#38988
On January 23 2013 02:36 nojok wrote:
I won a pub game vs a drow nyx spirit breaker centaur invoker line up, it makes me believe in dota.


Spirit breaker is a terrible hero, and most pubs are awful with invoker. Plus 4/5 that lineup are decently farm dependant and the nyx probably tried to take what farm he could as well.

I mean, yay you beat drow but she really does only win ~57% of games so it isn't impossible.

Winning with meepo/broodmother/morphling/am/timbersaw would be impressive.

Sidenote/QQ: Why did they buff centaur into wild overpoweredness before porting him to dota 2, but left timbersaw as utterly useless when they ported him? No fair...
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
January 22 2013 17:44 GMT
#38989
It's not 10k, it's dependent on which purge it is but it deals 600 or 900 damage to summons. Dunno if this damage should trigger the last will
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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-22 17:50:45
January 22 2013 17:46 GMT
#38990
Diffussal deals like huge damage, enough to instagib everything.
And dagon should also not trigger last will
e: actually it does
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 22 2013 17:50 GMT
#38991
On January 23 2013 02:46 Yoshi- wrote:
Diffussal deals like huge damage, enough to instagib everything.
And dagon should also not trigger last will

It was high enough where it would one shot roshan back when chen could summon roshan.

And it was hilarious.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
January 22 2013 17:50 GMT
#38992
Oh shit. diffu does deal 99999 to summons. Dusa's purge deals 500/1000/1500 damage.
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trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
January 22 2013 17:52 GMT
#38993
Medusa ult doesnt trigger last will thats for sure
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
January 22 2013 17:54 GMT
#38994
On January 23 2013 02:50 Comeh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 02:46 Yoshi- wrote:
Diffussal deals like huge damage, enough to instagib everything.
And dagon should also not trigger last will

It was high enough where it would one shot roshan back when chen could summon roshan.

And it was hilarious.


In dota1, you could abuse TA spills and diffusal, to insta kill everything in spill aoe.


And dagon, does trigger last will nowadays, guess it was changed.
Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
January 22 2013 18:05 GMT
#38995
If purge is the diffusal active what does it have to do with autoattack spill? Honest question.
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-22 18:21:57
January 22 2013 18:16 GMT
#38996
On January 23 2013 03:05 Soap wrote:
If purge is the diffusal active what does it have to do with autoattack spill? Honest question.


In warcraft 3 it is not possible to say how much damage the autoattack deals, so instead it will always spill the next damage that the targeted unit takes, so if you cast diffusal on the illusion before the autoattack hits, it would spill the diffusal instead of the actual attack.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 22 2013 18:18 GMT
#38997
On January 23 2013 03:16 Yoshi- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 03:05 Soap wrote:
If purge is the diffusal active what does it have to do with autoattack spill? Honest question.


In warcraft 3 it is not possible to say how much damage the autoattack deals, so instead it will always spill the next damage that the targeted unit takes, so if cast diffusal on the illusion before the autoattack hits, it would spill the diffusal instead of the actual attack.


So the window is between autoattack projectile launch and projectile hit right? So dagon should be core on TA in dota 1...

(okay I get that the application is very narrow).
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Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
January 22 2013 18:23 GMT
#38998
Yes.

If you time it perfectly and cancel your attack several times, you could actually spill up to 3 times the normal damage.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
January 22 2013 18:29 GMT
#38999
On January 23 2013 02:44 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 02:36 nojok wrote:
I won a pub game vs a drow nyx spirit breaker centaur invoker line up, it makes me believe in dota.


Spirit breaker is a terrible hero, and most pubs are awful with invoker. Plus 4/5 that lineup are decently farm dependant and the nyx probably tried to take what farm he could as well.

I mean, yay you beat drow but she really does only win ~57% of games so it isn't impossible.

Winning with meepo/broodmother/morphling/am/timbersaw would be impressive.

Sidenote/QQ: Why did they buff centaur into wild overpoweredness before porting him to dota 2, but left timbersaw as utterly useless when they ported him? No fair...

Yes you're right but it's good to kill em.

It just makes me think, why does brood have such a low winrate? I can't point where are her weaknesses despite feeling really weak with her in pubs, I found it really hard to bring something to teamfights.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
Yoshi-
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany10227 Posts
January 22 2013 18:32 GMT
#39000
Because when Brood pushes a lane, the enemy will gank her, and pub teams don't realize that when 5 ppl gank a brood, that they should push another lane.
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