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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42414 Posts
January 17 2013 19:05 GMT
#38161
good times any to go to sleep i guess. :D
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
January 17 2013 19:07 GMT
#38162
On January 18 2013 04:05 ahswtini wrote:
I assume this means the D2L games can't be played for now?


And The Defense games are also postponed. TL is supposed to be playing live right now in TD3. :<
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 17 2013 19:20 GMT
#38163
Thank god I'm at work and don't have to worry about this (hopefully).

:D
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Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
January 17 2013 19:39 GMT
#38164
Question, what build do you guys like best for BH offlane semi-carry?

In my 2 last games I went Poor man's shield / branch / tango (tango pooled by friend) -> wand -> phase boots -> vlads -> drums -> bkb (only in the first game) -> desolator -> abyssal.

It worked quite well in both games, I'm just wondering if these items are correct and in a sensible order?
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
January 17 2013 19:41 GMT
#38165
Don't get vlads until much later, after drums/bkb. The only time an early vlads is a decent option is when you're playing in a coordinated group where you're planning to 5 man push very early (level 8 or so, ala Luna.int) and want the pushing auras asap. Other than that, everything seems fine.
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majava
Profile Joined May 2012
Finland248 Posts
January 17 2013 19:50 GMT
#38166
Do private lobbies work? Anyone tested?
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
January 17 2013 19:54 GMT
#38167
On January 18 2013 04:41 Firebolt145 wrote:
Don't get vlads until much later, after drums/bkb. The only time an early vlads is a decent option is when you're playing in a coordinated group where you're planning to 5 man push very early (level 8 or so, ala Luna.int) and want the pushing auras asap. Other than that, everything seems fine.


sounds good cheers
I got vlads early to do some jungling, but ended up ganking or farming in a lane anyway so it does seem a waste
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 17 2013 19:56 GMT
#38168
On January 18 2013 04:41 Firebolt145 wrote:
Don't get vlads until much later, after drums/bkb. The only time an early vlads is a decent option is when you're playing in a coordinated group where you're planning to 5 man push very early (level 8 or so, ala Luna.int) and want the pushing auras asap. Other than that, everything seems fine.

Also (to build upon your pushing comment) its a great item to pick up an early rosh, usually after taking down the appropriate t1's mid and bot (usually wait until t2 mid as well, but sometimes if you get 1 important kill, you can grab it after that).
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
January 17 2013 19:56 GMT
#38169
Why would you jungle with BH -.- You should get 90% of your gold from track and kills
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Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 17 2013 19:58 GMT
#38170
Manta is an excellent item on BH.
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Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
January 17 2013 20:00 GMT
#38171
dota 2 is up
liquid will play!
Shraft
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden701 Posts
January 17 2013 20:01 GMT
#38172
On January 18 2013 04:41 Firebolt145 wrote:
Don't get vlads until much later, after drums/bkb. The only time an early vlads is a decent option is when you're playing in a coordinated group where you're planning to 5 man push very early (level 8 or so, ala Luna.int) and want the pushing auras asap. Other than that, everything seems fine.

AdmiralBulldog went early Vlads (after PMS and Phase Boots) with the motivation that the enemy didn't have enough spell damage burst to warrant early Drums into fast BKB. The damage and armor buff can be better versus certain team setups.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
January 17 2013 20:03 GMT
#38173
There's a lot of situational 'what if's' in Dota, but if someone asks for a cookie cutter build that will work in the vast majority of games, drums -> BKB -> vlads/deso/mkb/manta/whatever is still the best option imo.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 17 2013 20:04 GMT
#38174
On January 18 2013 04:56 Qbek wrote:
Why would you jungle with BH -.- You should get 90% of your gold from track and kills

O.o Where did anyone say anything about jungle BH?

Because its horrible.
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MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-17 20:13:33
January 17 2013 20:13 GMT
#38175
Or treant ulti could do bonus damage and/or bonus duration the more units you catch or something.
So no damage but long duration.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 17 2013 20:14 GMT
#38176
On January 18 2013 05:13 MrCon wrote:
Or treant ulti could do bonus damage and/or bonus duration the more units you catch or something.
So no damage but long duration.

You're 3 pages late for the Treant discussion.
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duoform
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain5180 Posts
January 17 2013 20:27 GMT
#38177
Doter is back up. Yay for the games.
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
January 17 2013 20:51 GMT
#38178
your defence of the ancients may now continue
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
January 17 2013 21:01 GMT
#38179
On January 18 2013 04:39 Laurens wrote:
Question, what build do you guys like best for BH offlane semi-carry?

In my 2 last games I went Poor man's shield / branch / tango (tango pooled by friend) -> wand -> phase boots -> vlads -> drums -> bkb (only in the first game) -> desolator -> abyssal.

It worked quite well in both games, I'm just wondering if these items are correct and in a sensible order?

Aquila and/or medalion can be useful early on for mana regen and damage.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 17 2013 21:04 GMT
#38180
On January 18 2013 06:01 Nightmarjoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2013 04:39 Laurens wrote:
Question, what build do you guys like best for BH offlane semi-carry?

In my 2 last games I went Poor man's shield / branch / tango (tango pooled by friend) -> wand -> phase boots -> vlads -> drums -> bkb (only in the first game) -> desolator -> abyssal.

It worked quite well in both games, I'm just wondering if these items are correct and in a sensible order?

Aquila and/or medalion can be useful early on for mana regen and damage.

Also, bottle is really common / good on him. Worst comes to worse, and you can bottlecrow it.
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