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Malky
Denmark44 Posts
On January 09 2013 08:18 trinxified wrote: No you manta yourself, not the spirit bear. " so manta is very nice to move some of the items to your hero " Its not perfect english, but im pretty sure he meant get manta and move items from the bear, to the hero. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
On January 09 2013 08:18 trinxified wrote: No you manta yourself, not the spirit bear. Mantaing yourself without items is just like mantaing with items that don't affect illusions. Useless. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On January 09 2013 08:19 Malky wrote: " so manta is very nice to move some of the items to your hero " Its not perfect english, but im pretty sure he meant get manta and move items from the bear, to the hero. thats true, but i meant that when you get manta, your hero is now better than your bear, doesnt die as fast so now you can transfere the items to your hero. | ||
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Malky
Denmark44 Posts
On January 09 2013 08:23 Erasme wrote: thats true, but i meant that when you get manta, your hero is now better than your bear, doesnt die as fast so now you can transfere the items to your hero. And my entire point was that the items you give the bear are bad with illusions, which in turn makes manta a horrible item to get. | ||
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ahswtini
Northern Ireland22213 Posts
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
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Benjef
United Kingdom6921 Posts
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Malky
Denmark44 Posts
On January 09 2013 08:34 Erasme wrote: yes but your bear will die so quick that items on him wouldnt matter, manta gives you survivability and damages. You don't need specific items for manta to be useful. But you do need specific items for manta to be useful. its 5000 gold for 190 hp, 26 damage, 41% attack speed and an active that is USELESS without a high amount of stats or diffusal. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On January 09 2013 08:34 Erasme wrote: yes but your bear will die so quick that items on him wouldnt matter, manta gives you survivability and damages. You don't need specific items for manta to be useful. I think you're over-stating how quickly the Bear dies. Granted, it's fairly rare to get to the point where you're selecting a post-Radi+AC+MKB+small items on main bear item for Syllabear, so each of those scenarios is going to be fairly specific--depending on how farmed the enemy team is when you get to that point. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
To be fair Yango, i just had a game against a bear with vlads/ac/radi with luna/qop and the bear dies in literraly 5sec. If he's too far ahead, a shadow strike and focus fire will bring him down really fast. We werent even that far ahead. | ||
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Malky
Denmark44 Posts
On January 09 2013 08:43 Erasme wrote: illusions deals 33% of your base damage, soak up the luna's ult, dispell track. If you think that it's useless as an item then w/e floats your boat. I never said it was a useless item, just that 5000 gold can be spent better on a syllabear, like BKB its 1100 gold less, does the same and so much more. Luck can also screw you over so you get hit by 4 beams, regardless of illusions. | ||
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crms
United States11933 Posts
I miss abbadon, he's fun. | ||
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trinxified
Canada7774 Posts
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Gheizen64
Italy2077 Posts
Never played bear in my life tho'. | ||
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hooahah
3752 Posts
you know you're playing a great support when the entire enemy team is trying to focus you down :D and even though my team was a 4stack that spoke only russian, somehow we had great teamwork - healing, co-ordinated attacking, 5manning when needed, and they even saved me a few times from nyx/faceless trying to suicide me ♥ it's games like these that make me love Dota :DDDD | ||
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Mithhaike
Singapore2759 Posts
Match 95261223 WR/Pudge/Death Prophet/Tidehunter/Undying(me) vs SF/Sven/Magnus/ES/Naix Deathprophet & pudge are my friends, DP was useless as he has no idea how to play or how to position himself, i was just playing with him because we're friends. Looking at the lineup its obvious that we need to push early or die to them late game. I purposely took bottom lane with WR as we are notoriously hard heroes to dive. Worked out fine, with multiple kills/triple kills coming our way with us dying a few times, fair enough trade. Then somehow, WR snowballed. He became untouchable and started doing things like 1v4/5 and it was amusing to watch haha. They had 3/4 heroes chasing the WR trying to kill him, probably on tilt while the rest of us were pushing the other lane.It was obvious that the WR outplayed them, but it was to such an extent it was funny. The game finished with WR solo-ing the throne with Windrun. Watch that game for lots of laughter. It was so insane that i was just grinning throughout that game. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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Cool Cat
United States1644 Posts
On January 09 2013 09:47 Mithhaike wrote: i had a game yesterday that was just amusing hahaha Match 95261223 WR/Pudge/Death Prophet/Tidehunter/Undying(me) vs SF/Sven/Magnus/ES/Naix Deathprophet & pudge are my friends, DP was useless as he has no idea how to play or how to position himself, i was just playing with him because we're friends. Looking at the lineup its obvious that we need to push early or die to them late game. I purposely took bottom lane with WR as we are notoriously hard heroes to dive. Worked out fine, with multiple kills/triple kills coming our way with us dying a few times, fair enough trade. Then somehow, WR snowballed. He became untouchable and started doing things like 1v4/5 and it was amusing to watch haha. They had 3/4 heroes chasing the WR trying to kill him, probably on tilt while the rest of us were pushing the other lane.It was obvious that the WR outplayed them, but it was to such an extent it was funny. The game finished with WR solo-ing the throne with Windrun. Watch that game for lots of laughter. It was so insane that i was just grinning throughout that game. nice. epic game. | ||
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ControlMonkey
Australia3109 Posts
I've seen some people go fast HotD for split pushing/farming. Thoughts on what to build and when to build it? | ||
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Jinxed
United States6450 Posts
Managed to even have decent teammates who went with my ideas and picks. Don't you know it, won both games too. Neither one was even close. Then again it might have to do with the fact that I am no longer queuing on EU west.... Funny coincidence though, both games the enemy captain took axe. As for the question above. The HotD is the old build that makes her a late game hard carry. If I remember right it's like Power Treads into HotD into butterfly. It's a lot more late game power than the "new" build, but doesn't allow you to 5 man and push till you're done. | ||
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