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Benjef
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United Kingdom6921 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 11:02:36
January 08 2013 11:01 GMT
#36361
On January 08 2013 19:37 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 15:33 trinxified wrote:
On January 08 2013 07:31 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
On January 08 2013 05:44 pap0t wrote:
how about sny, basher, mjolnir on druid and rad assault on bear.

my 5.x dota build on LD


Stats-bear is best LD build.

max stats first, off points into synergy up to lvl 2, and dump the rest into rabid i guess. 0 points in bear (or 1 if your team is abusing your chicken, take it off of a point in rabid tho.

start two slippers and a bit of regen, build phase boots ASAP, finish two wraith bands (n00b item, i know, but bear with me here). Yasha after phase and wraithbands.

By level 9, you should have completed your build, and with level 2 rabid, should be running around 522 through towers with your +50 damage and 1.5k hp. Hilariously effective because he runs and attacks fast enough to step-shoot-step-shoot without any micro'ing beyond pressing rabid ever 30 seconds and phaseboots whenever you see an enemy in your lane.

Transition to whatever, because at this point, you're already endgame.

It's called Lone Druid for a reason.


This ain't a troll right? I wanna try this out now. I will probably get flamed though.

It is a troll.

It does work though. Probably not at a high level though :D. But one of my first game I saw with LD back in dota one, someone did this and just completely carried my team to victory.
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Gheizen64
Profile Joined June 2010
Italy2077 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 11:05:02
January 08 2013 11:04 GMT
#36362
Played against no bear sylla. He went max rabid, max ias build + basher. Ranged form of course. Was a nightmare to play against. You saw this motherfucker with 522 ms suddeendly hop on you and attack you 10 times before you could even react. And then you got bashed and died. And if you tried to attack he would kite you and bash you endlessly. One of my worst memories as a player lol.
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Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
January 08 2013 11:10 GMT
#36363
On January 08 2013 20:01 Benjef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 19:37 Firebolt145 wrote:
On January 08 2013 15:33 trinxified wrote:
On January 08 2013 07:31 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
On January 08 2013 05:44 pap0t wrote:
how about sny, basher, mjolnir on druid and rad assault on bear.

my 5.x dota build on LD


Stats-bear is best LD build.

max stats first, off points into synergy up to lvl 2, and dump the rest into rabid i guess. 0 points in bear (or 1 if your team is abusing your chicken, take it off of a point in rabid tho.

start two slippers and a bit of regen, build phase boots ASAP, finish two wraith bands (n00b item, i know, but bear with me here). Yasha after phase and wraithbands.

By level 9, you should have completed your build, and with level 2 rabid, should be running around 522 through towers with your +50 damage and 1.5k hp. Hilariously effective because he runs and attacks fast enough to step-shoot-step-shoot without any micro'ing beyond pressing rabid ever 30 seconds and phaseboots whenever you see an enemy in your lane.

Transition to whatever, because at this point, you're already endgame.

It's called Lone Druid for a reason.


This ain't a troll right? I wanna try this out now. I will probably get flamed though.

It is a troll.

It does work though. Probably not at a high level though :D. But one of my first game I saw with LD back in dota one, someone did this and just completely carried my team to victory.

anything works in pubs.

ANYTHING
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BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
January 08 2013 11:25 GMT
#36364
On January 08 2013 20:04 Gheizen64 wrote:
Played against no bear sylla. He went max rabid, max ias build + basher. Ranged form of course. Was a nightmare to play against. You saw this motherfucker with 522 ms suddeendly hop on you and attack you 10 times before you could even react. And then you got bashed and died. And if you tried to attack he would kite you and bash you endlessly. One of my worst memories as a player lol.


brb Going to try this . Hope I won't get flamed lmao.
Ianuus
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia349 Posts
January 08 2013 11:40 GMT
#36365
On January 08 2013 20:01 Benjef wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 19:37 Firebolt145 wrote:
On January 08 2013 15:33 trinxified wrote:
On January 08 2013 07:31 RoyGBiv_13 wrote:
On January 08 2013 05:44 pap0t wrote:
how about sny, basher, mjolnir on druid and rad assault on bear.

my 5.x dota build on LD


Stats-bear is best LD build.

max stats first, off points into synergy up to lvl 2, and dump the rest into rabid i guess. 0 points in bear (or 1 if your team is abusing your chicken, take it off of a point in rabid tho.

start two slippers and a bit of regen, build phase boots ASAP, finish two wraith bands (n00b item, i know, but bear with me here). Yasha after phase and wraithbands.

By level 9, you should have completed your build, and with level 2 rabid, should be running around 522 through towers with your +50 damage and 1.5k hp. Hilariously effective because he runs and attacks fast enough to step-shoot-step-shoot without any micro'ing beyond pressing rabid ever 30 seconds and phaseboots whenever you see an enemy in your lane.

Transition to whatever, because at this point, you're already endgame.

It's called Lone Druid for a reason.


This ain't a troll right? I wanna try this out now. I will probably get flamed though.

It is a troll.

It does work though. Probably not at a high level though :D. But one of my first game I saw with LD back in dota one, someone did this and just completely carried my team to victory.


It's very, very old-school. Like, this was back when everyone was stacking gloves of haste on the bear.
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
January 08 2013 11:41 GMT
#36366
You mean SnY on every hero is the best build.
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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
January 08 2013 11:44 GMT
#36367
Best build is becoming vangod.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
NeonFlare
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Finland1307 Posts
January 08 2013 11:53 GMT
#36368
On January 08 2013 20:41 Kipsate wrote:
You mean SnY on every hero is the best build.


Oh the days of BNET pubs where Lich built Sange "for HP!"
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 12:43:12
January 08 2013 12:29 GMT
#36369
On January 08 2013 16:54 Hoban wrote:
And what is this Lothars, agha, refresher razor? I hardly ever play razor. Is it just sap all the damage from their carry with my scary ulti going or is there more to that? I know with aghas his ulti damages towers....is it just a backdoor boss razor?

you dont need lothars

refresher agh razor you turn on your ultimate twice and zap people a billion times and yeah you can backdoor but i dont recommend it, one of the shitty things about agh razor is that the building zap doesnt decrease its armor, so its only moderately good for backdooring. its just one of those visually fun builds to do since theres lightning zapping everywhere, and somebody getting zapped can get very low armor if they get zapped for long enough (about 70 if they get zapped for the full duration of 30 seconds at level 3)

this can actually do a lot of damage if focused on one person, especially paired with other armor reduction

unfortunately static link doesnt work with refresher, only works once even if you link 2 people (havent tried behavior in dota1) so you cant abuse it with refresher for exorbitant damage levels
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Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
January 08 2013 12:36 GMT
#36370
You always need lothars rabid, and aghs because aghs razer laughs at towers
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
January 08 2013 12:43 GMT
#36371
Can you static link twice at the same time on the same target with refresher? If yes, I'm sold even if it's probably not an optimal build.
super gg
akatama
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Romania982 Posts
January 08 2013 12:44 GMT
#36372
On January 08 2013 20:53 NeonFlare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 20:41 Kipsate wrote:
You mean SnY on every hero is the best build.


Oh the days of BNET pubs where Lich built Sange "for HP!"

Funny thing is Sange > Halberd might just be a legit uber-late game support item (think 60+ min farmfests, your carry gets maxed out with BoT's + 5 endgame items + buyback, if you feel that kind of game coming you could try to get some farm on supports; one miss against you might mean you live past the enemy carry's BKB duration and disable him).
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 12:47:50
January 08 2013 12:45 GMT
#36373
On January 08 2013 21:43 cecek wrote:
Can you static link twice at the same time on the same target with refresher? If yes, I'm sold even if it's probably not an optimal build.

unfortunately no

i just tried it in dota1 and its even worse with static link, the game uses constant values on the link and doesnt actually add or minus, so values fluctuate until ending at final reduction and added damage (though it does reduce properly on 2 different heroes)

i mean this would be an amazing build with a link refresher since you can abuse it to +400 damage very easily, but well
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
cecek
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Czech Republic18921 Posts
January 08 2013 12:51 GMT
#36374
On January 08 2013 21:45 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 21:43 cecek wrote:
Can you static link twice at the same time on the same target with refresher? If yes, I'm sold even if it's probably not an optimal build.

unfortunately no

i just tried it in dota1 and its even worse with static link, the game uses constant values on the link and doesnt actually add or minus, so values fluctuate until ending at final reduction and added damage (though it does reduce properly on 2 different heroes)

i mean this would be an amazing build with a link refresher since you can abuse it to +400 damage very easily, but well

With a thing like this I wouldn't be surprised if it worked differently in Dota 2.
super gg
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 13:15:49
January 08 2013 12:54 GMT
#36375
On January 08 2013 21:51 cecek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 21:45 rabidch wrote:
On January 08 2013 21:43 cecek wrote:
Can you static link twice at the same time on the same target with refresher? If yes, I'm sold even if it's probably not an optimal build.

unfortunately no

i just tried it in dota1 and its even worse with static link, the game uses constant values on the link and doesnt actually add or minus, so values fluctuate until ending at final reduction and added damage (though it does reduce properly on 2 different heroes)

i mean this would be an amazing build with a link refresher since you can abuse it to +400 damage very easily, but well

With a thing like this I wouldn't be surprised if it worked differently in Dota 2.

i did the initial play arounds in dota2, and it doesnt work at all, only 1 static link buff exists, and the 2nd static link doesnt do anything at all

also i underestimated the -armor it deals out, i ended up getting -130 armor on full duration (too bad those towers keep their armor )


just want to add after -20 armor damage doesnt amplify anymore.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Nixer
Profile Joined July 2011
2774 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 13:35:45
January 08 2013 13:34 GMT
#36376
Disarm is really strong late game, 3 seconds on a Facless Void for example is massive.
I'd definitely get Heaven's Halberd on a support really late-game.
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Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
January 08 2013 13:36 GMT
#36377
On January 08 2013 22:34 Nixer wrote:
Disarm is really strong late game, 3 seconds on a Facless Void for example is massive.
I'd definitely get Heaven's Halberd on a support really late-game.


wouldn't you prefer hex on a support?
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
January 08 2013 13:46 GMT
#36378
hex stick all day err' day
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 13:51:44
January 08 2013 13:50 GMT
#36379
hex is a tad more expensive and has a retarded buildup for a support. You can get it if you are like a kotl tho
WriterXiao8~~
BurningSera
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Ireland19621 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 13:58:57
January 08 2013 13:51 GMT
#36380
Of course you would go hex if possible, but that is almost impossible for a (good) position 5 player who constantly keeping up all the visions/doing his support job throughout the game. So unless it is a 60+mins games or suddenly your team is winning couple of team fights in a row in late game, halberd probably the most cost efficient item on a support vs melee carry. You are guaranteed to get close to the melee carry (unless you get disabled...) and able to disarm him and then you are probably gonna die xD

or ya, unless you are a kotl!
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