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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 17:39:31
January 07 2013 17:37 GMT
#36241
yessir.
When I saw this game AB abused the bears pre-nerf recall to make the bear almost unkillable. The build is significantly weaker since the change to the bears recall/teleport thingy.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
January 07 2013 17:43 GMT
#36242
eh

if u rebuy diffusal blade recipe, do you get the charges back?
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 17:45:35
January 07 2013 17:43 GMT
#36243
On January 08 2013 02:37 PassiveAce wrote:
yessir.
When I saw this game AB abused the bears pre-nerf recall to make the bear almost unkillable. The build is significantly weaker since the change to the bears recall/teleport thingy.

Also, its not THAT difficult to gank LD pre-level 11 (hell, even after that its possible). That being said, no one will see it coming when that relic ISNT for a radiance.

I'll try it out one of these days.

On January 08 2013 02:43 konadora wrote:
eh

if u rebuy diffusal blade recipe, do you get the charges back?



Nope. once you get diffusal 2, you cannot recharge it D:
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
January 07 2013 17:45 GMT
#36244
On January 08 2013 02:43 konadora wrote:
eh

if u rebuy diffusal blade recipe, do you get the charges back?

Upgrade from lvl 1 to lvl 2, yes you get max 8 charges again, but after you use those there's no way of refreshing it (unlike drums for instance).
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 07 2013 17:46 GMT
#36245
On January 08 2013 02:43 konadora wrote:
eh

if u rebuy diffusal blade recipe, do you get the charges back?


When going from diffusal 1 to diffusal 2 you go back to 8 charges, no matter how many you had before. Once you have diffusal 2 you have to completely rebuy the item to get charges again (Diffusal 1 works fine).
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Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
January 07 2013 17:46 GMT
#36246
On January 08 2013 02:43 konadora wrote:
eh

if u rebuy diffusal blade recipe, do you get the charges back?


No. You have to rebuy the entire item if you want more charges. The level 2 upgrade does refill the charges, but that is all you get.
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
January 07 2013 17:47 GMT
#36247
wow ok that sucks

i thought it recharged many patches ago, along with euls :<
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
January 07 2013 17:47 GMT
#36248
also, pubs seem to have no idea how to handle PL
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
January 07 2013 17:50 GMT
#36249
I much prefer the HoN version (8 charges for diffusal 1, then diffusal 2 doesn't use/need charges).

PL is a pretty good hero this version.
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-07 17:52:32
January 07 2013 17:52 GMT
#36250
On January 08 2013 02:47 konadora wrote:
also, pubs seem to have no idea how to handle PL

a LOT of casuals just cant keep up with whats happening on the screen when a bunch of pl's are on the screen. I think pl is one of the very few heroes that can punish peoples poor eyesight.
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 07 2013 17:55 GMT
#36251
On January 08 2013 02:52 PassiveAce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 02:47 konadora wrote:
also, pubs seem to have no idea how to handle PL

a LOT of casuals just cant keep up with whats happening on the screen when a bunch of pl's are on the screen. I think pl is one of the very few heroes that can punish peoples poor eyesight.

He's also a hero that *needs* to be ganked while free farming, but unlike other heroes such as this (AM, void), you need to have dust. Hes much more of a hard carry than riki / clinkz, so not ganking him is a lot worse than not ganking a riki.

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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66364 Posts
January 07 2013 17:55 GMT
#36252
On January 08 2013 02:52 PassiveAce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 02:47 konadora wrote:
also, pubs seem to have no idea how to handle PL

a LOT of casuals just cant keep up with whats happening on the screen when a bunch of pl's are on the screen. I think pl is one of the very few heroes that can punish peoples poor eyesight.

lol that may be one factor, idk but they seem to underestimate the nuke damage of phantom lance. i've won yet another game because early game i just nuked the hell out of a bs + shredder lane (which, tbh isn't the most ideal lane) with the help of a support cm. pl + any support that has a nuke just seems very strong in pubs
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Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4558 Posts
January 07 2013 17:55 GMT
#36253
PL + Kotl in AP, I feel dirty when doing it but it's so much fun
TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
January 07 2013 17:56 GMT
#36254
You shouldnt need a diffusal blade once you use the 16 charges. If your PL you just need the mana burn to make your illisouns op as hell. Also armlet PL guys its the new thing.
if you can believe you can concieve
TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
January 07 2013 18:00 GMT
#36255
How are you arguing that PL is harder to gank than AM or Void. It just requries you to not suck. I know thats hard.
if you can believe you can concieve
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
January 07 2013 18:01 GMT
#36256
On January 08 2013 03:00 TheWarbler wrote:
How are you arguing that PL is harder to gank than AM or Void. It just requries you to not suck. I know thats hard.

Oh, I'm not.

I'm arguing its hard for pubs to gank PL. You need to buy dust.

In a pub.
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
January 07 2013 18:02 GMT
#36257
^we are talking about pl in the context of pubs warbler, so not sucking is not necessarily a given.
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PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
January 07 2013 18:07 GMT
#36258
Hey Konadora, did you try out that pl build without radiance? If so what did you think about it? Curious to hear your opinion
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
TheWarbler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1659 Posts
January 07 2013 18:08 GMT
#36259
PL is better without radiance I think. He requries complete free farm needs radi by 13 maybe 14. Going Diffusal into w/e item that doesn't suck with him is better. Also you can fight with your team and be a more do-shit player.
if you can believe you can concieve
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
January 07 2013 18:10 GMT
#36260
I don't think I've seen a PL ever get radiance in a pub game in a while. Its usually diffusal/vanguard first into some combination of heart/manta/butterfly.
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