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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On PL a case can be made for upgrading it instantly, however often you will need to secure a form of hp first. Be it drums, vit booster etc. The manaburn increase 20>36 is certainly not insignificant if you have that many illusions. I believe ZSMJ back in the day upgraded as quickly as gold and hp allowed him too. and yes, you can't refresh Diffusal Blade level 2, you have to buy a new one if you really want the charges. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
Of course, pub supports often can't be relied on to buy the most practical items, so sometimes you have to re-buy the recipe in pubs because having cost-ineffective charges is better than having no charges. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
Diffusal 2.0 is 850 for 8 charges of a very powerful slow/purge, which is often a key component of a heroes combo (riki, sometimes pl) as well as 4 int and agi, usually considered a good buy because of the strength of the slow and the stats are a nice bonus. edit- lmfao sniped 4 times over. It occurs to me that the regular posters have amazingly homogenous opinions xD | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 11 2012 09:21 BurningSera wrote: Better buy a gem for your support if you really had no place to spend that gold to upgrade drum. If your pub supports aren't upgrading Bracers to Janggo when they're supposed to, can they be relied on to not lose a gem? EDIT: Actually, I probably wouldn't trust pub supports with a gem regardless, even if their item selection is ok. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On December 11 2012 09:22 TheYango wrote: If your pub supports aren't upgrading Bracers to Janggo when they're supposed to, can they be relied on to not lose a gem? EDIT: Actually, I probably wouldn't trust pub supports with a gem regardless, even if their item selection is ok. Fair enough. What about 2xwards+1sentry or 3smokes! | ||
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5-s
United States1674 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On December 11 2012 09:22 TheYango wrote: If your pub supports aren't upgrading Bracers to Janggo when they're supposed to, can they be relied on to not lose a gem? EDIT: Actually, I probably wouldn't trust pub supports with a gem regardless, even if their item selection is ok. The issue is, the only people who lose gems more often than supports are carries | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On December 11 2012 09:21 PassiveAce wrote: Drums is 750 for 4 charges giving aoe 10% MS/IAS, almost universally considered a total waste of gold, its better to just use them sparingly and only in emergencies and close chases. I don't know about that. I think you should use it whenever you see the opportunity. Most chases/Teamfights see no reason not to use the charge. Supports often rely on really tight positioning to stay alive and still achieve much in the teamfight so that extra bit of positioning advantage can't hurt. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On December 11 2012 09:37 igotmyown wrote: Puppey just added a player named The Devil's Advocate to the Navi team because he was trying to add him to matchmaking, and now he can't kick him. And proceed to random meepo ;DDDDDDD | ||
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
On December 11 2012 09:42 Numy wrote: I don't know about that. I think you should use it whenever you see the opportunity. Most chases/Teamfights see no reason not to use the charge. Supports often rely on really tight positioning to stay alive and still achieve much in the teamfight so that extra bit of positioning advantage can't hurt. good point. | ||
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Klonere
Ireland4123 Posts
have fun | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
That's not what's in question here at all. | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On December 11 2012 10:05 Klonere wrote: Also to the people who are going "Man wouldn't it be great if Spectre was picked!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ4mQvpdtSg have fun i liked that first chain frost | ||
TheEmulator
28102 Posts
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PassiveAce
United States18076 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + jk iv really enjoyed your writeups lately, keep it up  ! | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34505 Posts
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TheEmulator
28102 Posts
On December 11 2012 10:19 PassiveAce wrote: whoa emulator whered you get that fancy icon?? + Show Spoiler + jk iv really enjoyed your writeups lately, keep it up !Thank you PassiveAce. iirc we played DayZ together | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
On December 11 2012 09:21 PassiveAce wrote: Drums is 750 for 4 charges giving aoe 10% MS/IAS, almost universally considered a total waste of gold, its better to just use them sparingly and only in emergencies and close chases. Diffusal 2.0 is 850 for 8 charges of a very powerful slow/purge, which is often a key component of a heroes combo (riki, sometimes pl) as well as 4 int and agi, usually considered a good buy because of the strength of the slow and the stats are a nice bonus. edit- lmfao sniped 4 times over. It occurs to me that the regular posters have amazingly homogenous opinions xD Errr...well. There´s always two answers to this. The nice and the naughty one. -In any group people of differing opinion meet resistance which discourages them to post again. That´s the naughty one. -People that put effort into the game come to similar conclusion because those conclusions hold true. That´s the nice one. Pick according to your level of jadedness Other topic: I am actually quite surprised that there isn´t much talk about Liquids Dota team. A few pages back there were some posts "Liquid´s playing in x minutes". Casually searching through DotA Liquipedia and other threads here I couldn´t quite find out what they played against whom and why. Was it just scrimming, or did they actually play an important match. And did they win? | ||
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