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RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-08 05:32:19
December 08 2012 05:30 GMT
#32341
Very high just describes the quality of the game, not the MMR. If you have a game of like 10 smurfs where almost everyone gets over 400 gpm or something I'm sure it'll be put down as Very High but their MMR is not necessarily at a super high point. Very High does tend to associate with better MMR only with regards to the fact that higher MMR players will usually on average have a game that has the characteristics required for a Very High classification.

Like there've been games where all the players are definitely Very High but because someone afked, griefed or left it dropped down to High or Normal because the quality of the game was lowered.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
December 08 2012 05:36 GMT
#32342
The match shows up on pages before the game even starts though. And I'm sure anyone can tell you that even when they get an early leaver and people have like no gpm it still shows the match as a "very high" game.
HoboWithAGlock
Profile Joined December 2012
United States18 Posts
December 08 2012 05:46 GMT
#32343
On December 08 2012 14:30 RuskiPanda wrote:
Very high just describes the quality of the game, not the MMR. If you have a game of like 10 smurfs where almost everyone gets over 400 gpm or something I'm sure it'll be put down as Very High but their MMR is not necessarily at a super high point. Very High does tend to associate with better MMR only with regards to the fact that higher MMR players will usually on average have a game that has the characteristics required for a Very High classification.

Like there've been games where all the players are definitely Very High but because someone afked, griefed or left it dropped down to High or Normal because the quality of the game was lowered.


Source on this definition?
IPA
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3206 Posts
December 08 2012 05:54 GMT
#32344
Who is Rod of Atos good on? In what situations?
Time held me green and dying though I sang in my chains like the sea.
duckii
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1017 Posts
December 08 2012 05:59 GMT
#32345
is there an active and high skilled inhouse league in europe?
tpmraven
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States833 Posts
December 08 2012 06:19 GMT
#32346
On December 08 2012 14:54 IPA wrote:
Who is Rod of Atos good on? In what situations?


OD and its not terrible on silencer
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
December 08 2012 06:25 GMT
#32347
On December 08 2012 14:54 IPA wrote:
Who is Rod of Atos good on? In what situations?

it's good on INT "carry" characters. as well as on people who smoke gank frequently as the range of atos is good. it's still niche-y and hasn't been fully explored for sure. I feel it's pretty good on leshrac and lina though they both have very powerful items they could build for the same cost so it's on a per game basis. also good on necrolyte but again there are a lot of items that are good on him too.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14081 Posts
December 08 2012 06:32 GMT
#32348
On December 08 2012 14:54 IPA wrote:
Who is Rod of Atos good on? In what situations?

Personally I like it on tanky int assholes that stand in the middle of teamfights and lack cc. Basically that means Necro & Death Prophet.

I can also see it working on like Wisp/AA, maybe even OD/QoP.
"We don't make mistakes here, we call it happy little accidents." ~Bob Ross
LAN-f34r
Profile Joined December 2010
New Zealand2099 Posts
December 08 2012 06:33 GMT
#32349
The thing with atos on a int carry is that it doesn't scale so well - its slot inefficient, and the active doesn't go through BKB, and many carries rely on blink and such rather than move speed.

Atos Lesh is an interesting idea though.
The only barrier to truth is the presumption that you already have it. It's through our pane (pain) we window (win though).
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
December 08 2012 06:39 GMT
#32350
Necro and DP are good with Atos due to not having some sort of disable/slow, etc. (not counting silence).
HoboWithAGlock
Profile Joined December 2012
United States18 Posts
December 08 2012 06:43 GMT
#32351
On December 08 2012 15:33 LAN-f34r wrote:
The thing with atos on a int carry is that it doesn't scale so well - its slot inefficient, and the active doesn't go through BKB, and many carries rely on blink and such rather than move speed.

Atos Lesh is an interesting idea though.


Edict/stats mid Leshrac. Rush atos. Get bitches.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
December 08 2012 06:49 GMT
#32352
On December 08 2012 15:43 HoboWithAGlock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 15:33 LAN-f34r wrote:
The thing with atos on a int carry is that it doesn't scale so well - its slot inefficient, and the active doesn't go through BKB, and many carries rely on blink and such rather than move speed.

Atos Lesh is an interesting idea though.


Edict/stats mid Leshrac. Rush atos. Get bitches.


Lol good one, but no-stun Lesh will get flamed really hard.
Mandini
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1717 Posts
December 08 2012 06:54 GMT
#32353
Playing CM with my 5 stack of friends, we all agree that we should pick AM. Sounds of agreement go out over comms, and our captain decides to press antimage and hit the red button without reading. AM banned :s
HoboWithAGlock
Profile Joined December 2012
United States18 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-08 06:56:38
December 08 2012 06:56 GMT
#32354
On December 08 2012 15:49 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 15:43 HoboWithAGlock wrote:
On December 08 2012 15:33 LAN-f34r wrote:
The thing with atos on a int carry is that it doesn't scale so well - its slot inefficient, and the active doesn't go through BKB, and many carries rely on blink and such rather than move speed.

Atos Lesh is an interesting idea though.


Edict/stats mid Leshrac. Rush atos. Get bitches.


Lol good one, but no-stun Lesh will get flamed really hard.


It's only 14 levels. No one will notice.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
December 08 2012 07:01 GMT
#32355
On December 08 2012 15:56 HoboWithAGlock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 15:49 trinxified wrote:
On December 08 2012 15:43 HoboWithAGlock wrote:
On December 08 2012 15:33 LAN-f34r wrote:
The thing with atos on a int carry is that it doesn't scale so well - its slot inefficient, and the active doesn't go through BKB, and many carries rely on blink and such rather than move speed.

Atos Lesh is an interesting idea though.


Edict/stats mid Leshrac. Rush atos. Get bitches.


Lol good one, but no-stun Lesh will get flamed really hard.


It's only 14 levels. No one will notice.


hahah. I'll try it anyway.

On a more serious note: I mostly skip Lesh's ulti up until Level 14/15/16...

Good call?
HoboWithAGlock
Profile Joined December 2012
United States18 Posts
December 08 2012 07:05 GMT
#32356
Depends on how the game has been going. I'd only skip it if you're playing like absolute shit or pushing with edict/stun.

Otherwise, it's still the tits, and while lightening is becoming popular again, your ult is still super-teamfight.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-08 07:08:40
December 08 2012 07:08 GMT
#32357
On December 08 2012 16:05 HoboWithAGlock wrote:
Depends on how the game has been going. I'd only skip it if you're playing like absolute shit or pushing with edict/stun.

Otherwise, it's still the tits, and while lightening is becoming popular again, your ult is still super-teamfight.


Max all 3 skills by Level 12 is usually what I do. Either stun + lightning, or stun + edict, depending on matchup. It just seems like you lose so much mana using pulse, and you have to sit in the middle of everything, where you die too fast.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28102 Posts
December 08 2012 07:22 GMT
#32358
On December 08 2012 15:54 Mandini wrote:
Playing CM with my 5 stack of friends, we all agree that we should pick AM. Sounds of agreement go out over comms, and our captain decides to press antimage and hit the red button without reading. AM banned :s

Major fail lol.

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Mandini
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1717 Posts
December 08 2012 07:39 GMT
#32359
On December 08 2012 16:22 TheEmulator wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 15:54 Mandini wrote:
Playing CM with my 5 stack of friends, we all agree that we should pick AM. Sounds of agreement go out over comms, and our captain decides to press antimage and hit the red button without reading. AM banned :s

Major fail lol.


Surprise, it was Aeth
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
December 08 2012 07:40 GMT
#32360
On December 08 2012 16:08 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 16:05 HoboWithAGlock wrote:
Depends on how the game has been going. I'd only skip it if you're playing like absolute shit or pushing with edict/stun.

Otherwise, it's still the tits, and while lightening is becoming popular again, your ult is still super-teamfight.


Max all 3 skills by Level 12 is usually what I do. Either stun + lightning, or stun + edict, depending on matchup. It just seems like you lose so much mana using pulse, and you have to sit in the middle of everything, where you die too fast.

i max split earth and edict by 8 and then 9-13 is stats then 14 15 16 pulse nova then stats until 22 then lightning.
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