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RageBot
Profile Joined November 2010
Israel1530 Posts
November 28 2012 14:02 GMT
#31161
On November 28 2012 22:28 ReignSupreme. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 22:24 RageBot wrote:
Because they don't have a slow that works 100% of the time? (or viper does have?)
When playing as drow I can win solo against pretty much every hero early game (against noobs) because I just kite them with her frost something.


Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 22:24 RageBot wrote:
When playing as drow I can win solo against pretty much every hero early game (against noobs) because I just kite them with her frost something.


Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 22:24 RageBot wrote:
(against noobs)


Exactly, and there are a lot of noobs in dota, and that also skews the balance in her favor.
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
November 28 2012 14:18 GMT
#31162
On November 28 2012 22:47 SirMilford wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 21:44 Unleashing wrote:
Get some farm early on by laning in the safe lane and get up treads, possibly drums and a quick diffusal.
Now you roam and harvest kills with smoke+diffusal.
Get BKB if needed and eventually get items such as butterfly, upgrade diffusal, manta and teamfight when possible because dat smoke screen.
Riki isn't very effective when just farming IMO, gotta get active and grab the midgame where your power lies.

Also although everyone is this thread will detest me for saying this, grab an Orb of venom while in lane. It will help you early on before you get diffusal, sell when you get your diffusal though.

EDIT: Sorry double post.


What's with all the hate for Orb of Venom? I've seen this before and can't figure it out. It's such a cheap item, can it really be that bad?
TigerKarl
Profile Joined November 2010
1757 Posts
November 28 2012 14:26 GMT
#31163
Hello, i am a total trashy noob, today i received a beta invitation, but when starting the game it says "Connecting to the dota 2 network", but nothing is happening. Is there some kind of server downtime or anything i should know about? Thanks.
Gheizen64
Profile Joined June 2010
Italy2077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-28 14:36:29
November 28 2012 14:36 GMT
#31164
Baby is playing Dota2! He was the most promising player back then, his SF was the thing of amazingness. <3

And he play on a 4/3 screen lmao what?
Seen as G.ZZZ [COPPER SCUM] on Steam
3772
Profile Joined May 2010
Czech Republic434 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-28 14:40:00
November 28 2012 14:39 GMT
#31165
I play on 5:4, 1280x1024 the best resolution of all time.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-28 14:46:34
November 28 2012 14:43 GMT
#31166
On November 28 2012 23:18 ZasZ. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 22:47 SirMilford wrote:
On November 28 2012 21:44 Unleashing wrote:
Get some farm early on by laning in the safe lane and get up treads, possibly drums and a quick diffusal.
Now you roam and harvest kills with smoke+diffusal.
Get BKB if needed and eventually get items such as butterfly, upgrade diffusal, manta and teamfight when possible because dat smoke screen.
Riki isn't very effective when just farming IMO, gotta get active and grab the midgame where your power lies.

Also although everyone is this thread will detest me for saying this, grab an Orb of venom while in lane. It will help you early on before you get diffusal, sell when you get your diffusal though.

EDIT: Sorry double post.


What's with all the hate for Orb of Venom? I've seen this before and can't figure it out. It's such a cheap item, can it really be that bad?

Takes up an item slot for no stats, that's really it. It's not bad per se, but i personally have other items i'd like in those slots, especially items i don't have to sell when i get my first real item which i will be utilizing to kill people, aka diffusal.

I mean with the cost reduction it's not directly bad to pick it up, but i'd rather have a poor man's shield and 3 branches in the laning phase + my consumables then i'd like to pick up boots, then a magic stick and eventually upgrade it to magic wand and them drums, I like to just not buy an item for the laning phase which i'll get rid of quickly again, and i don't feel that the slow is needed on riki if you have the chance to kill whoever is in the lane if you have a semi-decent support with you.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
November 28 2012 14:45 GMT
#31167
On November 28 2012 23:26 TigerKarl wrote:
Hello, i am a total trashy noob, today i received a beta invitation, but when starting the game it says "Connecting to the dota 2 network", but nothing is happening. Is there some kind of server downtime or anything i should know about? Thanks.


Probably just server maintenance, it randomly happens and the servers go down for updates too sometimes.
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-28 14:57:23
November 28 2012 14:55 GMT
#31168
On November 28 2012 23:36 Gheizen64 wrote:
Baby is playing Dota2! He was the most promising player back then, his SF was the thing of amazingness. <3

And he play on a 4/3 screen lmao what?


It's funny because in a interview he said that the dota community is bad and that he won't be a part of it...
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38257 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-28 14:59:26
November 28 2012 14:59 GMT
#31169
On November 28 2012 23:55 BlitzerSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 23:36 Gheizen64 wrote:
Baby is playing Dota2! He was the most promising player back then, his SF was the thing of amazingness. <3

And he play on a 4/3 screen lmao what?


It's funny because in a interview he said that the dota community is bad and that he won't be a part of it...


You can think the community is bad and still play the game for fun. It's not like he didn't enjoy the game itself

teapoted
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom24425 Posts
November 28 2012 14:59 GMT
#31170
On November 28 2012 23:36 Gheizen64 wrote:
Baby is playing Dota2! He was the most promising player back then, his SF was the thing of amazingness. <3

And he play on a 4/3 screen lmao what?
4:3 still looks more natural to me than widescreen.
Once you Goblak...
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
November 28 2012 15:00 GMT
#31171
On November 28 2012 23:55 BlitzerSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 23:36 Gheizen64 wrote:
Baby is playing Dota2! He was the most promising player back then, his SF was the thing of amazingness. <3

And he play on a 4/3 screen lmao what?


It's funny because in a interview he said that the dota community is bad and that he won't be a part of it...

You can play a game and hate it's community, no problem here
This space left intentionally dank /)3(\ http://i.imgur.com/RmeEUcF.png
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
November 28 2012 15:07 GMT
#31172
But if you play a game then you are a part of the community of said game too.
Just pointing that out.
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42414 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-28 15:28:28
November 28 2012 15:17 GMT
#31173
On November 28 2012 23:55 BlitzerSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 23:36 Gheizen64 wrote:
Baby is playing Dota2! He was the most promising player back then, his SF was the thing of amazingness. <3

And he play on a 4/3 screen lmao what?


It's funny because in a interview he said that the dota community is bad and that he won't be a part of it...


So he decides to be in SC community? which is month by month is getting more ridiculous and ugly, except few exceptions. Of course Dota's general community is even worse (in-game especially), but still.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
November 28 2012 15:29 GMT
#31174
On November 29 2012 00:17 Grettin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 23:55 BlitzerSC wrote:
On November 28 2012 23:36 Gheizen64 wrote:
Baby is playing Dota2! He was the most promising player back then, his SF was the thing of amazingness. <3

And he play on a 4/3 screen lmao what?


It's funny because in a interview he said that the dota community is bad and that he won't be a part of it...


So he decides to be in SC community? which month by month is getting more ridiculous and ugly, except few exceptions. Of course Dota's general community is even worse (in-game especially), but still.

Meh, don't really think the dota 2 community is bad at all. Sure you get assholes once in a while ingame (what can you do? It's internet afterall), but I have gotten so much more shit ingame in sc2 (Terran sup) than in dota 2. It's also nothing compared to how bad HoN and LoL can be. I also think r/dota2 and TL dota have much higher standard than the sc2 subreddit and forum. I guess you could argue that dota 2 is just beta but it's not like the game and community is lacking players. dota 2 + steam will make it so the ingame level will never be as bad as in HoN and wc3 DotA either, which is good of course.
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
November 28 2012 15:32 GMT
#31175
On November 29 2012 00:29 Gosi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2012 00:17 Grettin wrote:
On November 28 2012 23:55 BlitzerSC wrote:
On November 28 2012 23:36 Gheizen64 wrote:
Baby is playing Dota2! He was the most promising player back then, his SF was the thing of amazingness. <3

And he play on a 4/3 screen lmao what?


It's funny because in a interview he said that the dota community is bad and that he won't be a part of it...


So he decides to be in SC community? which month by month is getting more ridiculous and ugly, except few exceptions. Of course Dota's general community is even worse (in-game especially), but still.

Meh, don't really think the dota 2 community is bad at all. Sure you get assholes once in a while ingame (what can you do? It's internet afterall), but I have gotten so much more shit ingame in sc2 (Terran sup) than in dota 2. It's also nothing compared to how bad HoN and LoL can be. I also think r/dota2 and TL dota have much higher standard than the sc2 subreddit and forum. I guess you could argue that dota 2 is just beta but it's not like the game and community is lacking players. dota 2 + steam will make it so the ingame level will never be as bad as in HoN and wc3 DotA either, which is good of course.


I agree with you. I was terran too since the beginning of SC2 ( late beta ) and I got so much shit just because I liked playing that race. Also how many of the GGs that you get at the end of a SC2 game are real gg ? Just because you write GG it doesn't mean that you are good mannered. It seems a common misconception of the SC2 community.
Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
November 28 2012 15:35 GMT
#31176
Heh Babyknight plays strats from 2009 and gets flamed.
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42414 Posts
November 28 2012 15:37 GMT
#31177
On November 29 2012 00:29 Gosi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2012 00:17 Grettin wrote:
On November 28 2012 23:55 BlitzerSC wrote:
On November 28 2012 23:36 Gheizen64 wrote:
Baby is playing Dota2! He was the most promising player back then, his SF was the thing of amazingness. <3

And he play on a 4/3 screen lmao what?


It's funny because in a interview he said that the dota community is bad and that he won't be a part of it...


So he decides to be in SC community? which month by month is getting more ridiculous and ugly, except few exceptions. Of course Dota's general community is even worse (in-game especially), but still.

Meh, don't really think the dota 2 community is bad at all. Sure you get assholes once in a while ingame (what can you do? It's internet afterall), but I have gotten so much more shit ingame in sc2 (Terran sup) than in dota 2. It's also nothing compared to how bad HoN and LoL can be. I also think r/dota2 and TL dota have much higher standard than the sc2 subreddit and forum. I guess you could argue that dota 2 is just beta but it's not like the game and community is lacking players. dota 2 + steam will make it so the ingame level will never be as bad as in HoN and wc3 DotA either, which is good of course.


Well maybe you are right. But what i have experienced, Dota's in-game is pretty fucking ugly (at least at my MMR). I haven't experienced much in SC2 since i haven't really played after Beta.

You are totally right about the r/dota2 and TL's Dota section compared to SC2 (especially r/Starcraft).
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-28 15:40:03
November 28 2012 15:38 GMT
#31178
I don't believe any gaming community is worse or better than another.
The difference being that in DotA you rely on others to win, you don't generally in SC2, so people will be more vocal ingame. When i was playing 4v4 and 2v2 in SC2 i got flamed the exact same way i did in DotA2, i also often got insulted in 1v1 if i won or caught my opponent off guard.

I believe that gaming communities are generally equally horrible/good. There are good and bad members of any community is what i'm trying to get to i guess.

I mean, even /vg/ DotA2 threads on 4chan aren't bad at all when you consider that it's mostly people from /v/ in those threads.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
theqat
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States2856 Posts
November 28 2012 15:45 GMT
#31179
it's much harder to type "gg" and mean it in dota than in sc (at least for me). There's so many factors at play in each dota game that it's extremely rare to believe a game was overall good rather than annoyingly one-sided or lost for one team by one idiot, whereas in sc as long as you believe you played well and your opponent played well it's pretty easy to believe the game was good.

On top of that, the community in dota is a lot more noxious in-game, so the standard for good manners is reduced to very basic acts of compassion--such as not assuming that everyone else playing is a fucking moron, not being horribly racist, and trying to be constructively critical rather than just harsh. These should all be basic things that everyone does all the time, but they are largely absent or overshadowed by the bad apples in dota.
Stancel
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Singapore15360 Posts
November 28 2012 15:55 GMT
#31180
On November 28 2012 23:36 Gheizen64 wrote:
Baby is playing Dota2! He was the most promising player back then, his SF was the thing of amazingness. <3

And he play on a 4/3 screen lmao what?


Oh, you meant BabyKnight... wasn't looking at the streams tab and I thought you meant the Korean BaBy -_-
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