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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 28 2012 04:28 GMT
#31121
On November 28 2012 12:06 oneofthem wrote:
lol is like, bgh 3v3. dota is regular low money

BW/SC2 is the analogy I would have used, tbh.
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Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
November 28 2012 04:55 GMT
#31122
Man Drow Aura is the most annoying shit in the world. If you get behind on towers at all early game and don't have a team capable of lighting fast push its pretty much game over if the other team is even close to competent. Arhhggggggggg
ScandiNAVIan
Profile Joined November 2012
Korea (South)60 Posts
November 28 2012 04:57 GMT
#31123
I've come to notice that the phrase next level is very loved in the dota 2 community. Someone know it began?
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
November 28 2012 05:38 GMT
#31124
On November 28 2012 13:55 Klonere wrote:
Man Drow Aura is the most annoying shit in the world. If you get behind on towers at all early game and don't have a team capable of lighting fast push its pretty much game over if the other team is even close to competent. Arhhggggggggg


Drow in general is OP in pubs. No team work means it's pretty hard to kill her.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
November 28 2012 05:55 GMT
#31125
ahahaha Demon was trying to solo rosh with viper at like 200hp. When he was 60, he got bashed and died ahahaha
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Resent
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia938 Posts
November 28 2012 06:13 GMT
#31126
haha where is the wizard on the donkey courier from?
SirMilford
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1269 Posts
November 28 2012 06:48 GMT
#31127
On November 28 2012 13:57 ScandiNAVIan wrote:
I've come to notice that the phrase next level is very loved in the dota 2 community. Someone know it began?


I always assumed it meant "Next level of skill". As in one step up from normal plays.
.AK
Profile Joined September 2010
United States561 Posts
November 28 2012 07:08 GMT
#31128
On November 28 2012 15:13 Resent wrote:
haha where is the wizard on the donkey courier from?

Looks like it was from buying one of their shirts.
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-28 07:12:24
November 28 2012 07:11 GMT
#31129
Anyone notice how sandking, shadow demon, rhasta, panda etc. aren't seeing much competitive play anymore? None of these heroes were really nerfed at all (I guess SD took a slight mana nerf), but I suppose the buffs to lots of heroes (i.e. jakiro) and the change in the draft and tendency toward usage of heroes like magnus probably changed a lot more in terms of picks than I'd have expected.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-28 07:49:58
November 28 2012 07:36 GMT
#31130
On November 28 2012 16:11 wherebugsgo wrote:
Anyone notice how sandking, shadow demon, rhasta, panda etc. aren't seeing much competitive play anymore? None of these heroes were really nerfed at all (I guess SD took a slight mana nerf), but I suppose the buffs to lots of heroes (i.e. jakiro) and the change in the draft and tendency toward usage of heroes like magnus probably changed a lot more in terms of picks than I'd have expected.

Sand King - weak early laning phase. Was ok before when you could sit safe lane and pull, but unconventional lane arrangements make his life awkward.
Shadow Demon - Powerful laner, powerful lategame against certain carries, but very mediocre midgame teamfight because of no hard disables. Still good situationally against certain heroes (Sven, Void, etc.).
Rhasta - Gets crushed by facerush teamcomps.
Panda - Loses may common mid matchups. Pre-TI2 people weren't playing as much TA/Bat/etc. so this was more manageable.
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Appendix
Profile Joined July 2009
Sweden979 Posts
November 28 2012 07:45 GMT
#31131
On November 28 2012 13:57 ScandiNAVIan wrote:
I've come to notice that the phrase next level is very loved in the dota 2 community. Someone know it began?


Isn't it a common expression not exclusive to Dota? It just means bringing something to the next level(be it skills, mindgames, aggression etc.) and can and is being used in many contexts.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
November 28 2012 07:49 GMT
#31132
If anything, invoker was more popular before TI2.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 28 2012 07:50 GMT
#31133
On November 28 2012 16:49 Alur wrote:
If anything, invoker was more popular before TI2.

Was a mistype. Meant TA. Edited.
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Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10940 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-28 08:00:24
November 28 2012 07:57 GMT
#31134
On November 28 2012 14:38 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 13:55 Klonere wrote:
Man Drow Aura is the most annoying shit in the world. If you get behind on towers at all early game and don't have a team capable of lighting fast push its pretty much game over if the other team is even close to competent. Arhhggggggggg


Drow in general is OP in pubs. No team work means it's pretty hard to kill her.


Then why aren't Sniper, Shadow Fiend, Viper and next to every other range-carry (or actually, every carry that you need to chaindisable) dominating pubs?

Maybe because their not as overpowered....


My guess would be:
The "free" Agigain lets every retard get decent dmg/ias --> leads to decent farm and decent laning/skirmish power no matter how bad you play....
BlitzerSC
Profile Joined May 2011
Italy8800 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-28 08:09:31
November 28 2012 08:01 GMT
#31135
On November 28 2012 16:11 wherebugsgo wrote:
Anyone notice how sandking, shadow demon, rhasta, panda etc. aren't seeing much competitive play anymore? None of these heroes were really nerfed at all (I guess SD took a slight mana nerf), but I suppose the buffs to lots of heroes (i.e. jakiro) and the change in the draft and tendency toward usage of heroes like magnus probably changed a lot more in terms of picks than I'd have expected.


Sand King -> I don't know why people keep playing him as support, they should farm him for the first 10 minutes so he can get a blink dagger and dominate the early/mid game. Support SK is pretty much useless, imho. He will never be able to get an Epicentre off because of the amount of disables.

Shadow Demon -> Good roamer, but right now the meta seems to be "trilane vs trilane let's see who can farm our carry faster" so... yeah.

Rhasta -> I don't know man, to me it seems that he is getting picked a lot more often now.

Panda ( do you mean brewmaster or storm ? I guess brew ) -> DK picks him from time to time and he is not a bad hero. Also he got nerfed pretty hard because his "Brewlings" can now be trapped by a blackhole, which is a big deal.

On other hand Crystal Maiden isn't getting picked anymore and her sister, Lina, is seeing a lot more play than her.
Same with Anti-Mage... no more fun for him ahahahah.

On November 28 2012 16:57 Velr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 14:38 trinxified wrote:
On November 28 2012 13:55 Klonere wrote:
Man Drow Aura is the most annoying shit in the world. If you get behind on towers at all early game and don't have a team capable of lighting fast push its pretty much game over if the other team is even close to competent. Arhhggggggggg


Drow in general is OP in pubs. No team work means it's pretty hard to kill her.


Then why aren't Sniper, Shadow Fiend, Viper and next to every other range-carry (or actually, every carry that you need to chaindisable) dominating pubs?

Maybe because their not as overpowered....


My guess would be:
The "free" Agigain lets every retard get decent dmg/ias --> leads to decent farm and decent laning/skirmish power no matter how bad you play....


Her aura is OP as fuck, even the shittiest support gets a fuckton of damage just from that. Also I'm surprised that people still build crits on her. Just stack eaglesongs and gg.
Drow plus support Vengeful spirit is just retarded.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
November 28 2012 08:05 GMT
#31136
On November 28 2012 16:57 Velr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 14:38 trinxified wrote:
On November 28 2012 13:55 Klonere wrote:
Man Drow Aura is the most annoying shit in the world. If you get behind on towers at all early game and don't have a team capable of lighting fast push its pretty much game over if the other team is even close to competent. Arhhggggggggg


Drow in general is OP in pubs. No team work means it's pretty hard to kill her.


Then why aren't Sniper, Shadow Fiend, Viper and next to every other range-carry (or actually, every carry that you need to chaindisable) dominating pubs?

Maybe because their not as overpowered....


My guess would be:
The "free" Agigain lets every retard get decent dmg/ias --> leads to decent farm and decent laning/skirmish power no matter how bad you play....

I mean yeah, you hit like 110 damage at level six with barely any items...
:)
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-28 08:22:57
November 28 2012 08:20 GMT
#31137
Oh man, I just read Clockwerk's bio (after reading one of the description for his abilities)... and they made him into a human (in armor).

And all this time, I thought he was just a neat talking robot (in Dota 1, he was just a robot, lore-wise).

I'm actually a bit disappointed. Him being a talking robot would be better IMO. Next thing you know, you find out Ursa is actually a guy inside a costume or something. /Rant off >.>.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
November 28 2012 08:30 GMT
#31138
On November 28 2012 17:01 BlitzerSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 16:11 wherebugsgo wrote:
Anyone notice how sandking, shadow demon, rhasta, panda etc. aren't seeing much competitive play anymore? None of these heroes were really nerfed at all (I guess SD took a slight mana nerf), but I suppose the buffs to lots of heroes (i.e. jakiro) and the change in the draft and tendency toward usage of heroes like magnus probably changed a lot more in terms of picks than I'd have expected.


Sand King -> I don't know why people keep playing him as support, they should farm him for the first 10 minutes so he can get a blink dagger and dominate the early/mid game. Support SK is pretty much useless, imho. He will never be able to get an Epicentre off because of the amount of disables.

He often ends up as support because he screws up the lanes pretty hard. He only really is able to be the safe lane farmer if your #1 position hero is in solo mid, or if predict they are sending a solo melee in one of the side lanes and decide to send SK in the same lane.

Actually on that thought, with how popular Bounty Hunter is nowadays, teams could possibly consider drafting aggressive trilanes then sending Sand King to lane against the BH. That might work well.
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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 28 2012 08:36 GMT
#31139
On November 28 2012 17:01 BlitzerSC wrote:
Sand King -> I don't know why people keep playing him as support, they should farm him for the first 10 minutes so he can get a blink dagger and dominate the early/mid game. Support SK is pretty much useless, imho. He will never be able to get an Epicentre off because of the amount of disables.

The problem is finding a place to put him where he'll get farm. Hard lane he gets even less early levels/farm than pulling creeps. He's not valuable enough to take a safe lane farming position, and he can't win any of the relevant solo lane matchups.

On November 28 2012 17:01 BlitzerSC wrote:
On other hand Crystal Maiden isn't getting picked anymore and her sister, Lina, is seeing a lot more play than her.
Same with Anti-Mage... no more fun for him ahahahah.

Again, has to do with facerush comps being the most common teamcomps this version. CM has a much harder time being useful against the common gank/diving melees of this version.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-28 08:40:00
November 28 2012 08:39 GMT
#31140
^ Would you not say SK could win against BH? Caustic finale pretty good.
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