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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 28 2012 00:56 GMT
#31101
On November 28 2012 09:52 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 09:32 deadmau wrote:
On November 28 2012 09:29 Firebolt145 wrote:
On November 28 2012 09:28 deadmau wrote:
Can all the mechanics and strategy guides from DotA WC3 be applied to DotA2 1 to 1? As in they are completely the same game, just different graphics?

99% of the stuff is applicable.


Awesome, so the mechanical and spell/item interaction quirks are very minor (1%). Sounds fucking awesome to me, cause I loved DotA1. Just dled DotA2, gonna look forward to trying all the heroes I had mastered.

I heard some talk of some different delay/timing for last hitting, is this true? Will I have to learn the timing over?

A little. For example, Lina, CM, Zeus are now easier to last hit with. Still bad animations, but better than their Dota 1 counterparts.

The animations have the same cast point, it's just that the animations actually match when the projectile leaves the hero's hand.

Still the same "difficulty" in the long run, but less confusing when you're learning the game.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34505 Posts
November 28 2012 00:57 GMT
#31102
It could be a placebo effect then. They definitely feel a thousand times easier to last hit with to me.
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Implenia
Profile Joined August 2012
Austria3846 Posts
November 28 2012 01:01 GMT
#31103
EEnvy has twitter now: https://twitter.com/EternaLEnVy1991
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-28 01:24:28
November 28 2012 01:23 GMT
#31104
Recently I have been having a problem where I cannot see group invites/notifications sent to me when I am not in the game client, making me miss out on a lot of group games with some buddies. Does anyone know if that's something that I turned off by accident and can turn back on or is this some kind of bug? My allow party invites option is on ALL.
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blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
November 28 2012 01:45 GMT
#31105
On November 28 2012 10:23 FinestHour wrote:
Recently I have been having a problem where I cannot see group invites/notifications sent to me when I am not in the game client, making me miss out on a lot of group games with some buddies. Does anyone know if that's something that I turned off by accident and can turn back on or is this some kind of bug? My allow party invites option is on ALL.


Destined to be forever alone in the finest hour... =x
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FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
November 28 2012 01:49 GMT
#31106
i am lone druid irl forever destined to guard the life seed or wahtever it is
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emythrel
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom2599 Posts
November 28 2012 01:51 GMT
#31107
seems steam is down again.... booo!
When there is nothing left to lose but your dignity, it is already gone.
Enzymatic
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1301 Posts
November 28 2012 01:55 GMT
#31108
On November 28 2012 09:35 Dattish wrote:
Animations are smoother in Dota 2. The "delay" is the turn rate and cast points that HoN and LoL players don't have in their games.


Last hitting in LoL is a joke... Auto attacks at level 1 take away like 1/4 of a creeps hp. :\
"Who hired this awful fountain gunner? He can't hit shit." - Yiss
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8093 Posts
November 28 2012 01:57 GMT
#31109
I got kicked out of my game, tried to reconnect and couldn't, restarted steam and pc and nothing worked (steam wasnt connecting properly) anyone know how to fix this?
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-28 02:11:38
November 28 2012 02:07 GMT
#31110
On November 28 2012 09:24 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 08:22 Nevuk wrote:
It's because angle detection is different from dota 1, ES is a much more common pickup in 1 than 2 because blocks are just different (and imo harder to pull off by far in dota 2)

This.

Anyone attributing ES being used to things other than the engine differences aren't taking note of how he was more or less first pick/ban phase material throughout 6.72-6.74 in DotA 1. Yes he has his drawbacks, but none of those kept the hero from being one of the most valuable supports in the game, and he didn't get directly nerfed. It's the engine differences that affect how certain Fissure blocks work that make him less strong than in DotA 1.

The potential for ES as a defensive roamer isn't matched by any other hero. At level 1 a fissure block can translate into one of the longest disables in the game and also one of the best methods of preventing or punishing dives. ES was very mildly nerfed in 6.72 (5 lower damage on the initial ult damage) and it didn't affect the rates of his being picked. He was buffed in an odd way since then (enchant totem CD reduction) but nothing accounts for the drop in usage besides engine differences.

The angle detection Valve has is pretty messed up (or wc3 was messed up, take your pick). All the heroes with angle based spells so far have whacky interactions - shackleshot, psi blades being the most well known differing interactions with some absurd shackles and psi blade being ridiculous.

Bristleback and Medusa are going to make the problem a lot more apparent.

edit :
Steam appears to have just dropped out on their servers for 4-5 minutes, it's back up for me now.

Also, Razor's animation still drives me up the wall. The input delay people are referring to will feel make dota 2 feel faster to a dota 1 player and was removed in like April or some long long time ago (the built in b.net delay was way higher)
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
November 28 2012 02:37 GMT
#31111
On November 28 2012 10:55 Enzymatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2012 09:35 Dattish wrote:
Animations are smoother in Dota 2. The "delay" is the turn rate and cast points that HoN and LoL players don't have in their games.


Last hitting in LoL is a joke... Auto attacks at level 1 take away like 1/4 of a creeps hp. :\

the creeps also attack incredibly slow as well.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
NeonFlare
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Finland1307 Posts
November 28 2012 02:48 GMT
#31112
By the way if anyone still needs a key or has a friend in need of key, hit me up, I've run out of semi-active friends to give one :D rest have been offline for about 3 weeks or more so I think those would be a waste.
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
November 28 2012 02:51 GMT
#31113
On November 28 2012 09:35 Dattish wrote:
Animations are smoother in Dota 2. The "delay" is the turn rate and cast points that HoN and LoL players don't have in their games.

Atleast for HoN, it's there, it's just quite quite different
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
November 28 2012 03:06 GMT
#31114
lol is like, bgh 3v3. dota is regular low money
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
November 28 2012 03:26 GMT
#31115
bgh 3v3 is so fun
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
November 28 2012 03:42 GMT
#31116
On November 28 2012 12:26 Dead9 wrote:
bgh 3v3 is so fun

racewars is better
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Dead9
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States4725 Posts
November 28 2012 03:45 GMT
#31117
ya but finding 8 people is so hard
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
November 28 2012 03:50 GMT
#31118
On November 28 2012 12:45 Dead9 wrote:
ya but finding 8 people is so hard

Finding a way for you to play brood war multiplayer without lag is definitely harder.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
November 28 2012 04:06 GMT
#31119
So I'm having trouble downloading a replay, any replay really. I get to 4% and just get "Download error 206"

;_;
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
November 28 2012 04:12 GMT
#31120
On November 28 2012 13:06 Fruscainte wrote:
So I'm having trouble downloading a replay, any replay really. I get to 4% and just get "Download error 206"

;_;


i had trouble downloading dreamhack replays...stuck on 98% lol
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
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