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Judicator
United States7270 Posts
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Either way I think in his interview he was referring to the community around the game. Which isn't exactly fair considering it wasn't especially established back then. | ||
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KDot2
United States1213 Posts
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
On November 28 2012 16:36 TheYango wrote: Sand King - weak early laning phase. Was ok before when you could sit safe lane and pull, but unconventional lane arrangements make his life awkward. Shadow Demon - Powerful laner, powerful lategame against certain carries, but very mediocre midgame teamfight because of no hard disables. Still good situationally against certain heroes (Sven, Void, etc.). Rhasta - Gets crushed by facerush teamcomps. Panda - Loses may common mid matchups. Pre-TI2 people weren't playing as much TA/Bat/etc. so this was more manageable. additional comments sand king - usually doesnt work out well in trilanes, especially not against undying (not even considering batrider since hes always banned) and a good rubick can make you regret picking this guy. shadow demon - falls behind way too quickly, doesnt do anything at all against some trilanes, 4-1 isnt as common panda - a lot of line ups are a lot harder to kill now and 4-1 isnt as common | ||
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TigerKarl
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
On November 29 2012 01:49 TigerKarl wrote: Played one game, then deleted Dota2. I'm sure that nostalgic people enjoy this game, because things are like they were in Dota1, but i've never played a game that annoyed me so hard from the start. What an insightful post, we most certainly found out both what annoyed you and ontop of that you managed to throw a snarky reply at us about how we're nostalgic for enjoying it. | ||
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ch33psh33p
7650 Posts
On November 29 2012 01:53 Unleashing wrote: What an insightful post, we most certainly found out both what annoyed you and ontop of that you managed to throw a snarky reply at us about how we're nostalgic for enjoying it. Ignore the flamebait. Some people just have nothing better to do. | ||
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MrSquiggle
Australia2 Posts
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
On November 29 2012 01:53 Unleashing wrote: What an insightful post, we most certainly found out both what annoyed you and ontop of that you managed to throw a snarky reply at us about how we're nostalgic for enjoying it. You're really reading into this way too much. All I read was he didn't really like the game. | ||
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Elenar
Sweden137 Posts
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Dattish
Sweden6297 Posts
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On November 29 2012 02:10 Elenar wrote: Im new to dota 2 and wonder what kinda shows there are like day9, state of the game etc? Both educational and informative? I wouldn't say there is a Day[9] of Dota2, at least not yet. Talk DotA is a talk show hosted by Tobiwan and Puppey that generally covers the game, not unlike SotG. As someone who only got into Dota 2 shortly after TI2, and has been overdosing on it ever since, the easiest way I found to learn was to watch commentated games or streams whenever I could, and when you snag all-pick just random away and learn how the heroes interact with each other and what situations certain builds and items are suited for. If you immerse yourself in the game, you'll pick it up quicker than you expect, but the only way to improve is to jump in and play against living breathing people. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=378319 Part of this is the fact that games of dota are more different than games of SC2, with respect to the decisions you make etc. There aren't really "build orders" that you can practice, or small stylistic differences (gases 3 and 4 at 5:45 instead of 6:15, etc) that you can use to beat your specific-race opponents. There are gajillions (I did the math  ) of possible team matchups as well so everything has to be situational. Basically, there are so many decisions in dota that the best way to learn is to play, (or watch gameplay), not to watch an informational segment. After all, you have 100 different heros to play, different lanes to be in, etc etc. Watching players like Merlini stream is educational, but be aware that your teammates and his teammates are vastly, vastly different. | ||
Firebolt145
Lalalaland34505 Posts
On November 29 2012 02:10 Elenar wrote: Im new to dota 2 and wonder what kinda shows there are like day9, state of the game etc? Both educational and informative? As the other guy said, there is no direct equivalent of Day9 right now. There are a few streamers that prioritise teaching though. First comes to mind is Merlini's stream. Also to toot my own horn, if you watch my stream and pipe up in the stream chat that you're new and what not, I try my best to walk through everything in great detail and give you the basic rundown. | ||
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Haee
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
On November 29 2012 02:26 Haee wrote: Puppey frequently commentates games for some reason and gives a proper perspective into what's going on in the game accurately. Yes, but Puppey is also an inveterate troll and people who don't know that much about dota could very easily be lead astray by some of his tongue-in-cheek comments. I mean, he is absolutely hilarious but I'm not sure I'd recommend him to newer players. | ||
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KDot2
United States1213 Posts
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Implenia
Austria3846 Posts
On November 29 2012 02:10 Elenar wrote: Im new to dota 2 and wonder what kinda shows there are like day9, state of the game etc? Both educational and informative? Joindota has a talkshow on tuesday as well. GD Studio covers a bit of Dota. I hope Merlini starts his own show in the near future. | ||
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IPA
United States3206 Posts
On November 29 2012 00:29 Gosi wrote: Meh, don't really think the dota 2 community is bad at all. Sure you get assholes once in a while ingame (what can you do? It's internet afterall), but I have gotten so much more shit ingame in sc2 (Terran sup) than in dota 2. It's also nothing compared to how bad HoN and LoL can be. I also think r/dota2 and TL dota have much higher standard than the sc2 subreddit and forum. I guess you could argue that dota 2 is just beta but it's not like the game and community is lacking players. dota 2 + steam will make it so the ingame level will never be as bad as in HoN and wc3 DotA either, which is good of course. I disagree with this respectfully. In SC2 (at a mid-high masters level), I would get gl / gg and semi-friendly discussion in two out of every five games, the other three being silence -- only the occasional BM. I played like 6k games over two years at that level (just switched to Dota 2 a couple weeks ago). Dota 2 is the first community I've ever been a part of (UT, UT2k4, Myth 1/2, WC3, SC2) that has repulsed me. Immaturity in SPADES, racism, homophobia and just a genearl mean-spiritedness. People are just absolute dicks, and that wasn't the case in SC2 (for me). I found 1v1 ladder players to be, in general, respecful. Dota 2 makes me hate humanity a little bit. I know "this is the internet" but not everyone on the internet is like that. It's a good thing the game is so goddamned fun or else I would be upset with myself for sticking around.  | ||
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On November 29 2012 02:29 Sn0_Man wrote: Yes, but Puppey is also an inveterate troll and people who don't know that much about dota could very easily be lead astray by some of his tongue-in-cheek comments. I mean, he is absolutely hilarious but I'm not sure I'd recommend him to newer players. Agreed, Puppey is fantastic for people that like his humor and have enough knowledge of the game to tell when he is trolling. As an example, I watched him go 16-2 pub Chen with Armlet/Euls/MKB yesterday. Not exactly standard. | ||
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