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On November 21 2012 22:58 PrinceXizor wrote: start OoV on every random. period. You're welcome for man mode. I'm pretty sure the most manly thing to do is to buy a sange recipe and rush a sange. Don't even need to random to be able to afford it.
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Guaranteed first blood with Jugg, get boots and 5 branches too lol. Not even needing any support.
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On November 21 2012 22:58 Prime`Rib wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 22:49 BurningSera wrote:On November 21 2012 22:18 Kupon3ss wrote: My personal observation is this. If you pick heroes with the intention of trying to win to somehow "raise your mmr", you'll likely end up complaining about "elo hell" or "all of my games are so tryhard" once you get to a point where the picks you make with the intention of raising your mmr put you above your natural skill level.
I honestly don't think you should ever worry about winning or losing, just try to play the game in a way in which you try to do the correct thing and correct your mistakes, the only common factor in all of your bad games is yourself. The thing is most veteran players (from my experience and people i have played with) wouldn't care much on losing or winning as soon as the game is good (everyone in game knows how to play and willing to adjust themselves to give what the team needs at times). For example, I don't even give a damn to 4/5 carries in team because we are are not playing for money or anything and it is incredibly challenging and fun to see if we can make the line up works, is just that people need to play as a team, buy cour/fly if they felt like they can afford that, drop a vision ward when needed etc. While for the personal skill wise, everyone always have space for improvement. I do give a damn about 4/5 carries team because I always end up playing support. If the other team picked tryhard heroes, please pick accordingly. There is nothing better than smashing people trying to win. It is satisfying.
Go try out support riki or kunkka next time! And ya feels so good after owning some tryhard line up. Teamwork > all.
+ Show Spoiler +My point is every game is playable with minimal warding and whoever has some good economy at some stage can spare some money for that crow/ward/dust etc. I still remember i played this supportive kunkka who went mid and bought the cour/fly and together we bought some wards when needed https://dotabuff.com/matches/8321464.
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Landing a perfect Reverse Polarity feels so good.
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On November 21 2012 22:47 Kupon3ss wrote: the point of random gold isn't to let you get more regen, it's either for u do go hilarious amounts of wards (on support) or to try next level item builds
mid: bottle 3braches tango strong melee: boots tango orb of venom spammy int heroes: soul ring + ggbranch Huskar/puj: 5 gaunlets and a tango, to prove how manly you are
etc etc, don't just buy regen, explore or going midas on bane elemental... my favorite build
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boots first and no other items on jungle bat. into tranquel and 20min heart. no blink. dem pros be mad, why dat bat so tanky.
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It doesnt matter what skill level you are playing in, you will find retarded teammates everywhere.
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On November 21 2012 22:58 Prime`Rib wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 22:49 BurningSera wrote:On November 21 2012 22:18 Kupon3ss wrote: My personal observation is this. If you pick heroes with the intention of trying to win to somehow "raise your mmr", you'll likely end up complaining about "elo hell" or "all of my games are so tryhard" once you get to a point where the picks you make with the intention of raising your mmr put you above your natural skill level.
I honestly don't think you should ever worry about winning or losing, just try to play the game in a way in which you try to do the correct thing and correct your mistakes, the only common factor in all of your bad games is yourself. The thing is most veteran players (from my experience and people i have played with) wouldn't care much on losing or winning as soon as the game is good (everyone in game knows how to play and willing to adjust themselves to give what the team needs at times). For example, I don't even give a damn to 4/5 carries in team because we are are not playing for money or anything and it is incredibly challenging and fun to see if we can make the line up works, is just that people need to play as a team, buy cour/fly if they felt like they can afford that, drop a vision ward when needed etc. While for the personal skill wise, everyone always have space for improvement. I do give a damn about 4/5 carries team because I always end up playing support. If the other team picked tryhard heroes, please pick accordingly. There is nothing better than smashing people trying to win. It is satisfying.
wtf am I reading?! Tryhard heroes? What is wrong with winning? You even said that you yourself pick to win and yet you make it sound like people who want to win are dicks
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On November 21 2012 23:43 Ramong wrote:Show nested quote +On November 21 2012 22:58 Prime`Rib wrote:On November 21 2012 22:49 BurningSera wrote:On November 21 2012 22:18 Kupon3ss wrote: My personal observation is this. If you pick heroes with the intention of trying to win to somehow "raise your mmr", you'll likely end up complaining about "elo hell" or "all of my games are so tryhard" once you get to a point where the picks you make with the intention of raising your mmr put you above your natural skill level.
I honestly don't think you should ever worry about winning or losing, just try to play the game in a way in which you try to do the correct thing and correct your mistakes, the only common factor in all of your bad games is yourself. The thing is most veteran players (from my experience and people i have played with) wouldn't care much on losing or winning as soon as the game is good (everyone in game knows how to play and willing to adjust themselves to give what the team needs at times). For example, I don't even give a damn to 4/5 carries in team because we are are not playing for money or anything and it is incredibly challenging and fun to see if we can make the line up works, is just that people need to play as a team, buy cour/fly if they felt like they can afford that, drop a vision ward when needed etc. While for the personal skill wise, everyone always have space for improvement. I do give a damn about 4/5 carries team because I always end up playing support. If the other team picked tryhard heroes, please pick accordingly. There is nothing better than smashing people trying to win. It is satisfying. wtf am I reading?! Tryhard heroes? What is wrong with winning? You even said that you yourself pick to win and yet you make it sound like people who want to win are dicks
Try hard heroes or team basically means picking the god top tier heroes. Alot of people lately reason out the win (or lose) with these heroes instead of skill.
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So he means overpowered heroes like CW was right after the remake, before his nerf?
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cw/ds/lich + am/ta/drow/magnus.. these kind of heroes. Most of them aren't even funny
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CW "was" overpowered?
lol?
https://dotabuff.com/heroes/winning
cw/ds/lich + am/ta/drow/magnus.. these kind of heroes. Most of them aren't even funny
lich? Lich?? LICH??? And i would hardly call Magnus overpowered... Same with AM, he is just a good carry.
But low level CM is fun to observe sometimes. I recently saw a CM game which featured:
Darkseer/Jakiro/CK/TA/Tidehunter vs Sven/Enigma/Magnus/Leshrac/Kotl.
The Powerlevel was clearly over nine fucking thousand or.. WTF did they actually ban :D (i don't know, missed that part).
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Centaur is still man mode, but he's not as OP as he was when Stampede did like 400+ damage once he had it at level 3. He's also very counterable by a decent team, but he tends to stomp pubs pretty hard, thus his dotabuff winrate.
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lich? Lich?? LICH??? And i would hardly call Magnus overpowered... Same with AM, he is just a good carry.
At a pro or near pro level Magnus is considered stronger than Warrunner. Notice Magnus being in nearly every pro game lately. CW is a pub stomper, but not considered a god tier hero right now.
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CW has 59% winrate which for a hero known for his pub stomping is about right. balanced.
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Calling him CW makes me confused, I thought it was Clockwerk, I usually call him Centaur.
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On November 22 2012 00:26 Kipsate wrote: Calling him CW makes me confused, I thought it was Clockwerk, I usually call him Centaur. yeah. but everyone was doing it, and i just want to be popular.
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On November 22 2012 00:22 Brainling wrote:Show nested quote + lich? Lich?? LICH??? And i would hardly call Magnus overpowered... Same with AM, he is just a good carry.
At a pro or near pro level Magnus is considered stronger than Warrunner. Notice Magnus being in nearly every pro game lately. CW is a pub stomper, but not considered a god tier hero right now. how do you know that? CW has yet to be enabled for competitive play, so we have yet to see how teams would react to having access to him. You can't just make a statement like "At a pro or near pro level Magnus is considered stronger than Warrunner." when one of the heroes haven't been seen competitively post-remake at all due to not being in CM.
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On November 22 2012 00:27 Unleashing wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2012 00:22 Brainling wrote: lich? Lich?? LICH??? And i would hardly call Magnus overpowered... Same with AM, he is just a good carry.
At a pro or near pro level Magnus is considered stronger than Warrunner. Notice Magnus being in nearly every pro game lately. CW is a pub stomper, but not considered a god tier hero right now. how do you know that? CW has yet to be enabled for competitive play, so we have yet to see how teams would react to having access to him. You can't just make a statement like "At a pro or near pro level Magnus is considered stronger than Warrunner." when one of the heroes haven't been seen competitively post-remake at all due to not being in CM. Tbh Xin is shit tier in competitive dota. never picked/banned in any international.
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On November 22 2012 00:22 Brainling wrote:Show nested quote + lich? Lich?? LICH??? And i would hardly call Magnus overpowered... Same with AM, he is just a good carry.
At a pro or near pro level Magnus is considered stronger than Warrunner. Notice Magnus being in nearly every pro game lately. CW is a pub stomper, but not considered a god tier hero right now.
On November 22 2012 00:22 Brainling wrote:Show nested quote + lich? Lich?? LICH??? And i would hardly call Magnus overpowered... Same with AM, he is just a good carry.
At a pro or near pro level Magnus is considered stronger than Warrunner. Notice Magnus being in nearly every pro game lately. CW is a pub stomper, but not considered a god tier hero right now.
You know that CW isn't in captains mode, do you? And i just linked to his recent winrate.
It goes 62% CW (not in CM) > 58% Jakiro (best support handsdown) > 58% Drow (not in CM) > 54% Lich/Rest (slowly declining from here).
CW might not be uber godmode anymore and you now can actually win against him, but calling him "not overpowered" is a bit of a stretch...
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