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Firebolt145
Lalalaland34505 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 19 2012 16:49 Pseudoku wrote: Mjol takes priority when it procs, when it doesn't you can lifesteal from Satanic. Satanic is typically going to be one of the last items to get. It's still not cost-efficient if your Lifesteal has zero effectiveness 1 out of every 4 hits. I would rather use a Reaver for Heart than Satanic. Satanic in general is more awkward for melee than for ranged because if for whatever reason you have nothing to hit during the active, you waste it's effectiveness (especially true for Skeleton King in particular as he has no blink-like skill like PA or Void who do get Satanic). In general it's much easier to kite/avoid melees than ranged. On November 19 2012 16:52 Firebolt145 wrote: Hmm, deso was always my orb of choice on skeleton king. I can definitely see the advantages of mjollnir, particularly regarding flash farming. Obviously you can get both, but I'll try getting mjollnir first next time that I'm not already going refresher + rapiers. It sort of depends, I think. The main awkward thing about Mjollnir is that if you get it before AC, it delays your AC by quite a bit. And after you already have AC, Deso feels smoother to have because you already have attack speed from AC, and the stacking -armor works well together. I'd say that if you can afford to have Maelstrom/Mjollnir early and use it to farm, it's probably better than Deso, but if you can't afford to get your orb before AC, Deso is the better buy after AC. AC is more or less a must-have by your 3rd/4th item as a Strength carry ("the Strength carry's Butterfly") as it more or less buffers all the stats that you want and that Agi carries naturally get from Agility, while also providing a massive teamfight benefit to your team. | ||
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Pseudoku
Canada1279 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On November 19 2012 17:15 Pseudoku wrote: The problem I have with heart is that it does not regen in combat, so even with Satanic not proccing 1/4 hits, you should be getting more EHP, especially with the active. But Satanic inherently gives less Strength than Heart as well. Heart gives almost 600 more HP than Satanic does, while costing less gold. If you're only lifestealing 3 out of every 4 hits, that's quite a lot of HP to lifesteal, even if you're assuming you never get to disengage for a few seconds for Heart regen to kick in. | ||
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SKDN
Sweden243 Posts
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StoRm_res
Switzerland891 Posts
On November 19 2012 17:18 TheYango wrote: But Satanic inherently gives less Strength than Heart as well. Heart gives almost 600 more HP than Satanic does, while costing less gold. If you're only lifestealing 3 out of every 4 hits, that's quite a lot of HP to lifesteal, even if you're assuming you never get to disengage for a few seconds for Heart regen to kick in. well, but skele does easily have 800+ crits lategame, so if he isn't stunned or anything it should be easy to steal 600HP. I'm just speculating, because I almost always go deso, but it seens like a legit choice. | ||
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Ramong
Denmark1706 Posts
what the heck!? | ||
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Doraemon
Australia14949 Posts
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LAN-f34r
New Zealand2099 Posts
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
Lifesteal + invis = GOD | ||
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Ramong
Denmark1706 Posts
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Bobble
Australia1493 Posts
On November 19 2012 19:33 Ramong wrote: Why would you need lifesteal if you are invincible? :p mere invincibility just guarantees that you survive, God tier guarantees that you'll slaughter everyone, all of the time. :p | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
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rob.au
1087 Posts
Compare this to LoL where they have it so you can't play until the game you left finishes and then just straight up ban your account if you leave too much (where your account is actually valuable due to level up + unlock system). Or compare it to hon where if you go over a certain % you have to go basically play practice games until you lower your %, you can't just go smurf for a day and come back no problem. | ||
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Itsmedudeman
United States19229 Posts
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LAN-f34r
New Zealand2099 Posts
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pallad
Poland1958 Posts
On November 19 2012 18:31 Ramong wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5TsInvAAww&feature=youtu.be what the heck!? OMFG I WANNA EAT THAT PUDGE RIGHT NOW ! | ||
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k0pf
Germany180 Posts
Live is like a Box of dota. You never know when you get hooked :-D | ||
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Resent
Australia938 Posts
Unfortunately the treats aren't real  | ||
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KDot2
United States1213 Posts
AM suck so bad report him !!!!!!!!! | ||
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