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NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
November 19 2012 01:00 GMT
#30261
On November 19 2012 08:57 eqez wrote:
I watched abit of G1 today. Why do people call Ice for IceIceIce? They are not the same person....

its shorter and since there is only 1 of them attending this event, its ok bc we all know who they are talking about. Its still less confusing than they playing on each others accout: iceiceice smurfed on HYHY account for several matches -_-
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
November 19 2012 01:09 GMT
#30262
On November 19 2012 10:00 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 08:57 eqez wrote:
I watched abit of G1 today. Why do people call Ice for IceIceIce? They are not the same person....

its shorter and since there is only 1 of them attending this event, its ok bc we all know who they are talking about. Its still less confusing than they playing on each others accout: iceiceice smurfed on HYHY account for several matches -_-


and kyxy

but he's apparently announced that he'll officially join orange so thing might get toned down a bit
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
November 19 2012 02:30 GMT
#30263
On November 19 2012 10:00 NB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 08:57 eqez wrote:
I watched abit of G1 today. Why do people call Ice for IceIceIce? They are not the same person....

its shorter and since there is only 1 of them attending this event, its ok bc we all know who they are talking about. Its still less confusing than they playing on each others accout: iceiceice smurfed on HYHY account for several matches -_-

both played actually.
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-19 04:40:20
November 19 2012 04:37 GMT
#30264
So I just played 2 games with Skeleton King and pretty much just stacked lifesteal as much as possible... Just realized that they all work together.

Vampiric Aura, Vlad's Offering, Satanic... Can't really die as long as I'm attacking. Also had Power Treads, Armlet of Mord and BKB.

I guess if I had a Lifestealer ally, he'd actually get even more lifesteal than me if he also got Satanic?
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
November 19 2012 04:47 GMT
#30265
On November 19 2012 13:37 trinxified wrote:
So I just played 2 games with Skeleton King and pretty much just stacked lifesteal as much as possible... Just realized that they all work together.

Vampiric Aura, Vlad's Offering, Satanic... Can't really die as long as I'm attacking. Also had Power Treads, Armlet of Mord and BKB.

I guess if I had a Lifestealer ally, he'd actually get even more lifesteal than me if he also got Satanic?


vlads and satanic just take up space in sk's inventory. bad items.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
November 19 2012 04:49 GMT
#30266
On November 19 2012 13:47 aintz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 13:37 trinxified wrote:
So I just played 2 games with Skeleton King and pretty much just stacked lifesteal as much as possible... Just realized that they all work together.

Vampiric Aura, Vlad's Offering, Satanic... Can't really die as long as I'm attacking. Also had Power Treads, Armlet of Mord and BKB.

I guess if I had a Lifestealer ally, he'd actually get even more lifesteal than me if he also got Satanic?


vlads and satanic just take up space in sk's inventory. bad items.

lifesteal while you lifesteal while you lifesteal

why not?
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-19 04:53:42
November 19 2012 04:52 GMT
#30267
On November 19 2012 13:47 aintz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 13:37 trinxified wrote:
So I just played 2 games with Skeleton King and pretty much just stacked lifesteal as much as possible... Just realized that they all work together.

Vampiric Aura, Vlad's Offering, Satanic... Can't really die as long as I'm attacking. Also had Power Treads, Armlet of Mord and BKB.

I guess if I had a Lifestealer ally, he'd actually get even more lifesteal than me if he also got Satanic?


vlads and satanic just take up space in sk's inventory. bad items.


yeah I agree. though the game didn't really go WAY late game, I actually only had 5 items too. Was planning to complete it with a Heart of Tarasque.

And it was quite fun seeing myself getting SO MUCH HP back each critical hit, and that's not even counting the active use of Satanic... Anyone know what the actual calculation and math around lifesteal stacking?
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
November 19 2012 04:53 GMT
#30268
armlet--> attackspeed and damage is the way to go.

or Divine-->Refresher
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
Pseudoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1279 Posts
November 19 2012 04:58 GMT
#30269
On November 19 2012 13:47 aintz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 13:37 trinxified wrote:
So I just played 2 games with Skeleton King and pretty much just stacked lifesteal as much as possible... Just realized that they all work together.

Vampiric Aura, Vlad's Offering, Satanic... Can't really die as long as I'm attacking. Also had Power Treads, Armlet of Mord and BKB.

I guess if I had a Lifestealer ally, he'd actually get even more lifesteal than me if he also got Satanic?


vlads and satanic just take up space in sk's inventory. bad items.


Satanic is a great item. Vlads can be carried by another person.
Logic fails because we are lazy.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
November 19 2012 05:00 GMT
#30270
On November 19 2012 13:52 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 13:47 aintz wrote:
On November 19 2012 13:37 trinxified wrote:
So I just played 2 games with Skeleton King and pretty much just stacked lifesteal as much as possible... Just realized that they all work together.

Vampiric Aura, Vlad's Offering, Satanic... Can't really die as long as I'm attacking. Also had Power Treads, Armlet of Mord and BKB.

I guess if I had a Lifestealer ally, he'd actually get even more lifesteal than me if he also got Satanic?


vlads and satanic just take up space in sk's inventory. bad items.


yeah I agree. though the game didn't really go WAY late game, I actually only had 5 items too. Was planning to complete it with a Heart of Tarasque.

And it was quite fun seeing myself getting SO MUCH HP back each critical hit, and that's not even counting the active use of Satanic... Anyone know what the actual calculation and math around lifesteal stacking?


What do you mean calculation? It all stacks additively is what you're asking I suppose. 25+30+16=71% of your damage taken as health.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
LazyFailKid
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada750 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-19 05:03:30
November 19 2012 05:02 GMT
#30271
Or if you're real manly, naked divine stacking is the way to go
trinxified
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada7774 Posts
November 19 2012 05:03 GMT
#30272
On November 19 2012 14:00 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 13:52 trinxified wrote:
On November 19 2012 13:47 aintz wrote:
On November 19 2012 13:37 trinxified wrote:
So I just played 2 games with Skeleton King and pretty much just stacked lifesteal as much as possible... Just realized that they all work together.

Vampiric Aura, Vlad's Offering, Satanic... Can't really die as long as I'm attacking. Also had Power Treads, Armlet of Mord and BKB.

I guess if I had a Lifestealer ally, he'd actually get even more lifesteal than me if he also got Satanic?


vlads and satanic just take up space in sk's inventory. bad items.


yeah I agree. though the game didn't really go WAY late game, I actually only had 5 items too. Was planning to complete it with a Heart of Tarasque.

And it was quite fun seeing myself getting SO MUCH HP back each critical hit, and that's not even counting the active use of Satanic... Anyone know what the actual calculation and math around lifesteal stacking?


What do you mean calculation? It all stacks additively is what you're asking I suppose. 25+30+16=71% of your damage taken as health.


Yeah I was asking that. I thought it had a "tricky" calculation, rather than just the simple addition. So that's the Satanic, Vamp Aura, and Vlad's respectively in that order... I guess the addition active use on Satanic adds even on top of that too.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
November 19 2012 05:03 GMT
#30273
On November 19 2012 13:58 Pseudoku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 13:47 aintz wrote:
On November 19 2012 13:37 trinxified wrote:
So I just played 2 games with Skeleton King and pretty much just stacked lifesteal as much as possible... Just realized that they all work together.

Vampiric Aura, Vlad's Offering, Satanic... Can't really die as long as I'm attacking. Also had Power Treads, Armlet of Mord and BKB.

I guess if I had a Lifestealer ally, he'd actually get even more lifesteal than me if he also got Satanic?


vlads and satanic just take up space in sk's inventory. bad items.


Satanic is a great item. Vlads can be carried by another person.


its really not but you are free to get that item on sk all you want. while you're at it you should get a battlefury also and some sny.
Pseudoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1279 Posts
November 19 2012 05:05 GMT
#30274
On November 19 2012 14:03 aintz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 13:58 Pseudoku wrote:
On November 19 2012 13:47 aintz wrote:
On November 19 2012 13:37 trinxified wrote:
So I just played 2 games with Skeleton King and pretty much just stacked lifesteal as much as possible... Just realized that they all work together.

Vampiric Aura, Vlad's Offering, Satanic... Can't really die as long as I'm attacking. Also had Power Treads, Armlet of Mord and BKB.

I guess if I had a Lifestealer ally, he'd actually get even more lifesteal than me if he also got Satanic?


vlads and satanic just take up space in sk's inventory. bad items.


Satanic is a great item. Vlads can be carried by another person.


its really not but you are free to get that item on sk all you want. while you're at it you should get a battlefury also and some sny.


If you're not disabled from full to dead, it's practically full heal on activation.
Logic fails because we are lazy.
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
November 19 2012 05:09 GMT
#30275
So how long till we start seeing some LGD.int results?
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
November 19 2012 05:09 GMT
#30276
On November 19 2012 14:03 trinxified wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 14:00 Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
On November 19 2012 13:52 trinxified wrote:
On November 19 2012 13:47 aintz wrote:
On November 19 2012 13:37 trinxified wrote:
So I just played 2 games with Skeleton King and pretty much just stacked lifesteal as much as possible... Just realized that they all work together.

Vampiric Aura, Vlad's Offering, Satanic... Can't really die as long as I'm attacking. Also had Power Treads, Armlet of Mord and BKB.

I guess if I had a Lifestealer ally, he'd actually get even more lifesteal than me if he also got Satanic?


vlads and satanic just take up space in sk's inventory. bad items.


yeah I agree. though the game didn't really go WAY late game, I actually only had 5 items too. Was planning to complete it with a Heart of Tarasque.

And it was quite fun seeing myself getting SO MUCH HP back each critical hit, and that's not even counting the active use of Satanic... Anyone know what the actual calculation and math around lifesteal stacking?


What do you mean calculation? It all stacks additively is what you're asking I suppose. 25+30+16=71% of your damage taken as health.


Yeah I was asking that. I thought it had a "tricky" calculation, rather than just the simple addition. So that's the Satanic, Vamp Aura, and Vlad's respectively in that order... I guess the addition active use on Satanic adds even on top of that too.


Indeed. Feel free to add 175 more for satanic active.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
November 19 2012 05:13 GMT
#30277
On November 19 2012 14:09 ReignSupreme. wrote:
So how long till we start seeing some LGD.int results?

they're playing in g league, and i think itsgosu monthly madness?
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Cool Cat
Profile Joined June 2009
United States1644 Posts
November 19 2012 05:22 GMT
#30278
On November 19 2012 14:13 rabidch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 14:09 ReignSupreme. wrote:
So how long till we start seeing some LGD.int results?

they're playing in g league, and i think itsgosu monthly madness?

Wow, that is so true.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
November 19 2012 07:34 GMT
#30279
On November 19 2012 13:58 Pseudoku wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 13:47 aintz wrote:
On November 19 2012 13:37 trinxified wrote:
So I just played 2 games with Skeleton King and pretty much just stacked lifesteal as much as possible... Just realized that they all work together.

Vampiric Aura, Vlad's Offering, Satanic... Can't really die as long as I'm attacking. Also had Power Treads, Armlet of Mord and BKB.

I guess if I had a Lifestealer ally, he'd actually get even more lifesteal than me if he also got Satanic?


vlads and satanic just take up space in sk's inventory. bad items.


Satanic is a great item. Vlads can be carried by another person.

Honestly, I think Mjollnir is a much more practical orb for Skeleton King. After your other typical items (Armlet, BKB), you're lacking Attack Speed, not damage. The Maelstrom is also practical earlier to help you farming speed, as Skeleton King does not have any way to AoE flash-farm, and the Static Charge active is a significant source of damage, as you want to be out there and die once in a fight.
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Pseudoku
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada1279 Posts
November 19 2012 07:49 GMT
#30280
On November 19 2012 16:34 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 19 2012 13:58 Pseudoku wrote:
On November 19 2012 13:47 aintz wrote:
On November 19 2012 13:37 trinxified wrote:
So I just played 2 games with Skeleton King and pretty much just stacked lifesteal as much as possible... Just realized that they all work together.

Vampiric Aura, Vlad's Offering, Satanic... Can't really die as long as I'm attacking. Also had Power Treads, Armlet of Mord and BKB.

I guess if I had a Lifestealer ally, he'd actually get even more lifesteal than me if he also got Satanic?


vlads and satanic just take up space in sk's inventory. bad items.


Satanic is a great item. Vlads can be carried by another person.

Honestly, I think Mjollnir is a much more practical orb for Skeleton King. After your other typical items (Armlet, BKB), you're lacking Attack Speed, not damage. The Maelstrom is also practical earlier to help you farming speed, as Skeleton King does not have any way to AoE flash-farm, and the Static Charge active is a significant source of damage, as you want to be out there and die once in a fight.


Mjol takes priority when it procs, when it doesn't you can lifesteal from Satanic. Satanic is typically going to be one of the last items to get.
Logic fails because we are lazy.
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