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tHelonious.mOnK
Profile Joined November 2012
United Kingdom12 Posts
November 17 2012 02:23 GMT
#30001
On November 17 2012 11:21 FinestHour wrote:
someone was saying that he could latch it by just standing in melee range and pressing it. how does that even make sense, you would just leap 700 range forward wouldn't you =__=


its 700 range or until you hit an enemy hero
In the beginning, there was Jack, and Jack had a groove.
Tabbris
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Bangladesh2839 Posts
November 17 2012 02:23 GMT
#30002
On November 17 2012 11:21 FinestHour wrote:
someone was saying that he could latch it by just standing in melee range and pressing it. how does that even make sense, you would just leap 700 range forward wouldn't you =__=

He collides with the first hero hit
FinestHour
Profile Joined August 2010
United States18466 Posts
November 17 2012 02:27 GMT
#30003
thanks very much, time for some bot games
thug life.                                                       MVP/ex-
duoform
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain5180 Posts
November 17 2012 02:34 GMT
#30004
You guys watching WCS?

BBC is hosting that shit...
"I really like Marauders and Marines." - Flash
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
November 17 2012 02:36 GMT
#30005
watching it. Look disappointing and no where CLOSE to wcg 2009, not even touching TI2 level. Just killing time to wait for G-1
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
November 17 2012 02:39 GMT
#30006
BBC #1 with the terrible terrible puns
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
duoform
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain5180 Posts
November 17 2012 02:47 GMT
#30007
I think BBC lost a lot of respect from the DotA Chinese scene by adding LoL to G-League... and honestly, the hate is justified.

Imagine ACE DotA adding LoL now! I think DC would get as many shit as BBC took.

WCS looking "good" until now but yeah, you can't compare this to TI2. But at least it's been way better than LoL Finals!

User was temp banned for this post.
"I really like Marauders and Marines." - Flash
Kupon3ss
Profile Joined May 2008
時の回廊10066 Posts
November 17 2012 02:51 GMT
#30008
On November 17 2012 11:47 duoform wrote:
I think BBC lost a lot of respect from the DotA Chinese scene by adding LoL to G-League... and honestly, the hate is justified.

Imagine ACE DotA adding LoL now! I think DC would get as many shit as BBC took.

WCS looking "good" until now but yeah, you can't compare this to TI2. But at least it's been way better than LoL Finals!


the previous events were, but the finals actually seems lackduster even when compared to the lol finals
When in doubt, just believe in yourself and press buttons
duoform
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain5180 Posts
November 17 2012 02:59 GMT
#30009
Yeah totally. LoL Finals had a good production but comparing this small audio problem to 8 hours to play a bo3 and player cheating...
"I really like Marauders and Marines." - Flash
ReignSupreme.
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
Australia4123 Posts
November 17 2012 03:40 GMT
#30010
Bumblebee playing with Merlini on stream atm
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
November 17 2012 03:57 GMT
#30011
Damn that match with Merlini and bumblebee was actually pretty epic. There was mass bkb'ing and ghost scepters being used throughout match, quite impressive.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
NB
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Netherlands12045 Posts
November 17 2012 04:02 GMT
#30012
I thought merlini stream is entertaining after all the posts about him, finally i decided to tune in for a bit: i dont like it. From beginning to end, its just a group of stacked players rapping pub on Match making, nothing fun from that. If you have a stack, go scrim and try your best to win, i hate that half half shit. There is pretty much no justify on wasting time playing pub games if you know you are just gona win. Same goes to pretty much every single NA dota streams out there: draskyl, fear, root, even demon time to time.... This is why im so glad when i find singsing stream: im glad that I am not the only person who have this point of view after years playing dota.
Im daed. Follow me @TL_NB
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
November 17 2012 04:12 GMT
#30013
On November 17 2012 13:02 NB wrote:
I thought merlini stream is entertaining after all the posts about him, finally i decided to tune in for a bit: i dont like it. From beginning to end, its just a group of stacked players rapping pub on Match making, nothing fun from that. If you have a stack, go scrim and try your best to win, i hate that half half shit. There is pretty much no justify on wasting time playing pub games if you know you are just gona win. Same goes to pretty much every single NA dota streams out there: draskyl, fear, root, even demon time to time.... This is why im so glad when i find singsing stream: im glad that I am not the only person who have this point of view after years playing dota.


I do not agree; for myself, it is very dependent on why you are watching. Take for example Merlini, I was watching his stream and it was not completely one sided. Hell, they even came close to losing at some portions for carelessness. It ended up being an entertaining match and did get a chance to see some interesting fights.

He is not the most insightful player, although he does talk at times about why he is getting X or Y. It is more casual based while effort is still being put into it. I also do not agree that it is a waste of time. There is always a chance of losing, even if the chance is slim. And even though you are in a team and good chance of winning, it does not mean they just slack off and make it a waste of time. It is not negative experience, just little experience gained from it.

I am not going to say his stream is the best, since I do not really watch. But I think that attack is a bit extreme and a bit unwarranted. One is entitled to not like it which is just fine, but saying it is just a waste of time is a bit much.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
Klonere
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Ireland4123 Posts
November 17 2012 04:18 GMT
#30014
On November 17 2012 13:02 NB wrote:
I thought merlini stream is entertaining after all the posts about him, finally i decided to tune in for a bit: i dont like it. From beginning to end, its just a group of stacked players rapping pub on Match making, nothing fun from that. If you have a stack, go scrim and try your best to win, i hate that half half shit. There is pretty much no justify on wasting time playing pub games if you know you are just gona win. Same goes to pretty much every single NA dota streams out there: draskyl, fear, root, even demon time to time.... This is why im so glad when i find singsing stream: im glad that I am not the only person who have this point of view after years playing dota.


Have you watched draskyll's stream lately? He stacks 95% of the time with his friends who are uniformly awful, like below sheever tier terrible.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
November 17 2012 04:21 GMT
#30015
With undying you just have to put the tombstone and run. If they attak the tombstone, go kill them. Too bad he's worthless after 25min.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-17 04:30:53
November 17 2012 04:30 GMT
#30016
On November 17 2012 13:21 Erasme wrote:
With undying you just have to put the tombstone and run. If they attak the tombstone, go kill them. Too bad he's worthless after 25min.


You vastly underestimate damage amplification.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
November 17 2012 04:33 GMT
#30017
I don't, simply it's the time when the carry has farmed a second item and rape you and your tombstone in 3hits.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
November 17 2012 04:35 GMT
#30018
On November 17 2012 13:33 Erasme wrote:
I don't, simply it's the time when the carry has farmed a second item and rape you and your tombstone in 3hits.


If their carrying is killing you in three hits at 25 minutes there are far worse problems than undying being on your team.
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
November 17 2012 04:44 GMT
#30019
I like merlini stream because he constantly tries to teach you something. Even when you think you know a ton he will say something that makes you go, ah, yeah, makes sense. He's also very nice and enjoyable to watch and listen.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Nilrem
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3684 Posts
November 17 2012 04:56 GMT
#30020
On November 17 2012 13:44 crms wrote:
I like merlini stream because he constantly tries to teach you something. Even when you think you know a ton he will say something that makes you go, ah, yeah, makes sense. He's also very nice and enjoyable to watch and listen.


Agreed, I think it is because he speaks a lot of what he is doing which helps. At least from what I have seen, there is a heavy emphasis on the basis mechanics of Dota 2, but just as important are the little bits that make the difference. Like, his timing with stacking the creeps and using the courier to scout the group so he can attack and they would run all the way behind to him. It is just a small thing but it is habits like that for which can make a player exception over simply being good.
Meepo Haters gonna Hate. https://twitter.com/KazeNilrem (@KazeNilrem)
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