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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
I don't think icefrog will care too much about dotabuff stats, nor should he, imo. Standard MO for him to proceed with centaur as he did with xin and others anyway. edit: I really like that he's not tweaking the global part of cent's ulti. Changing it to pbaoe or something like that wouldn't impact it in teamfights anyway, and would only reduce the dimension/skill involved of this ability. Adjust the numbers but keep the global, I like the way he's doing things. | ||
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duoform
Spain5180 Posts
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
On October 29 2012 00:37 JeeJee wrote: How did icefrog go about gathering statistics in dota1? Surely he had no way of knowing how the heroes impact pubs, right? Apart from a lot of anecdotal evidence I suspect.. I don't think icefrog will care too much about dotabuff stats, nor should he, imo. Standard MO for him to proceed with centaur as he did with xin and others anyway. edit: I really like that he's not tweaking the global part of cent's ulti. Changing it to pbaoe or something like that wouldn't impact it in teamfights anyway, and would only reduce the dimension/skill involved of this ability. Adjust the numbers but keep the global, I like the way he's doing things. Many dota platform do track statistic | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
On October 29 2012 01:42 Kupon3ss wrote: All of the major Chinese DotA1, as well as international systems like Garena, track player stats and have visible mmr. Those system, especially the Chinese ones, are extremely detailed, it'd be like having a Dotabuff built into your platform that tracks things like single hero mmr as well as overall mmr in some really silly algorithms. Really? Garena has player stats? I don't recall anything like that when I played dota there a while back. Is it a new addition? | ||
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Kupon3ss
時の回廊10066 Posts
On October 29 2012 01:49 JeeJee wrote: Really? Garena has player stats? I don't recall anything like that when I played dota there a while back. Is it a new addition? The only Garena player stats that matter are how many times u've nuj'd people | ||
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r.Evo
Germany14081 Posts
What's "nujing someone"? | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
I skipped curse in total, however it was buffed and is useable together with Last Word does anyone get curse?. | ||
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Sumostyle
Sweden185 Posts
On October 29 2012 03:32 Kipsate wrote: I just played the new Silencer, I like him quite a lot but: I skipped curse in total, however it was buffed and is useable together with Last Word does anyone get curse?. Just rank 1 for early harass, pretty much | ||
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Yoshi-
Germany10227 Posts
cost too much mana and does like nothing | ||
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ChrisXIV
Austria3553 Posts
On October 29 2012 03:38 Yoshi- wrote: i would completely skip it, not worth it. cost too much mana and does like nothing Curse is completely situation dependent. Against many heroes it's an auto-win of the lane, and totally worth it. | ||
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pallad
Poland1958 Posts
On October 29 2012 03:32 Kipsate wrote: I just played the new Silencer, I like him quite a lot but: I skipped curse in total, however it was buffed and is useable together with Last Word does anyone get curse?. Depends.. if i line vs two "mana" heroes , sure. And i also love new Silancer.. urn for start is now super strong.. URN + curse + LW = 300-400 dmg in early game for basicly nothing.. some mana. | ||
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KillerSOS
United States4207 Posts
On October 29 2012 03:38 Yoshi- wrote: i would completely skip it, not worth it. cost too much mana and does like nothing Troll right? Spell is borderline OP. | ||
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teapoted
United Kingdom24425 Posts
Some Pinoy Dota(2) going down with GoDz on location starting at 7:15:30. | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On October 29 2012 03:46 ChrisXIV wrote: Curse is completely situation dependent. Against many heroes it's an auto-win of the lane, and totally worth it. Yeah it depends on the heroes you're laning against. Nice to see that Silencer has build choice now. | ||
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Slardar
Canada7596 Posts
Depending on lane, 1 Curse to start off most of the time. 2 Word, 3 Word, 4 Glaive, 5 Word, 6, Ult, 7 Word, 8,9,10 Curse, 11 STFUCUP, 12-13 Stats, 14,15 Glaive, 16 Another Cup, 17 Glaive, Stats. Early Glaive Logic: Orb Walking tool + "Glaives of Wisdom's intelligence steal is not retroactive, meaning any kills made before you level Glaives of Wisdom at least once will not count." - Need a point to start gathering INT for the carry transition. Maxed Word Silences for 6, same duration of Curse. Perfect synergy to place one ontop of another for a kill. Also with the buffed Global Silence, 4 seconds at level 1 means you get the most bang out of your buck with Curse (can get 4 ticks off). | ||
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NeonFlare
Finland1307 Posts
This brings the issue, do you want him to mid when there are so many other options that probably work better with rest of the team? Do you put him in somekind of dual lane to support? He can't peel off people, only harass to hell, but risks getting destroyed when facing multiple heroes. He is at weird spot at the moment. Maybe playing aggressive dual with jungle to shut down someone. | ||
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Incze
Romania2058 Posts
Today I saw a silencer only get 1 point in it while maxing the others and I would've laughed were he not on my team | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 29 2012 05:15 Incze wrote: Wow, last word is such a powerful ability now. For 100 mana you get so much. A guaranteed silence and nuke and even a potential disarm. Today I saw a silencer only get 1 point in it while maxing the others and I would've laughed were he not on my team I think it's weaker than the aura was in the situations that the aura was good (e.g. against teams where you really need that combo-interrupting ability. But in most normal cases, the new ability seems decent. The only thing I dislike is how harsh the cooldown is on the lower ranks. 36 second CD is...unwieldy. Although I guess anything less than that for a 900 range point-and-click skill that does 150 damage on the first rank would be too strong. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On October 29 2012 05:21 TheYango wrote: I think it's weaker than the aura was in the situations that the aura was good (e.g. against teams where you really need that combo-interrupting ability. But in most normal cases, the new ability seems decent. The only thing I dislike is how harsh the cooldown is on the lower ranks. 36 second CD is...unwieldy. Although I guess anything less than that for a 900 range point-and-click skill that does 150 damage on the first rank would be too strong. kinda weird that 300 range 10 damage and a silence effect are worth 5 mana and 24 seconds on cooldown. When compared to ether shock. | ||
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