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ChrisXIV
Austria3553 Posts
On October 29 2012 05:40 PrinceXizor wrote: kinda weird that 300 range 10 damage and a silence effect are worth 5 mana and 24 seconds on cooldown. When compared to ether shock. You are ignoring the synergy with the rest of Silencer's kit, making the spell better than a regular nuke. | ||
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Heh_
Singapore2712 Posts
On October 29 2012 05:40 PrinceXizor wrote: kinda weird that 300 range 10 damage and a silence effect are worth 5 mana and 24 seconds on cooldown. When compared to ether shock. No matter how I read this, it doesn't make any sense to me. | ||
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ChrisXIV
Austria3553 Posts
On October 29 2012 05:47 Heh_ wrote: No matter how I read this, it doesn't make any sense to me. Ether Shock cast range = 600, damage = 140, cooldown = 8 seconds Last Word cast range = 900, damage = 150, cooldown = 36 seconds --> 300 range difference, 10 damage difference, 28 (not 24) cooldown difference. | ||
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Heh_
Singapore2712 Posts
On October 29 2012 05:57 ChrisXIV wrote: Ether Shock cast range = 600, damage = 140, cooldown = 8 seconds Last Word cast range = 900, damage = 150, cooldown = 36 seconds --> 300 range difference, 10 damage difference, 28 (not 24) cooldown difference. I see.. What a weird comparison. | ||
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Bash
Finland1533 Posts
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Asha
United Kingdom38257 Posts
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On October 29 2012 06:22 Bash wrote: Lothars is the new force staff. hahaha, was about to post the exact same sentence.... getting it for every heroes.... BOUNTY HUNTER? HELLO? On October 29 2012 06:34 Asha` wrote: Ah that distressing feeling when you realise you're so bad you've still not seen anyone pick Centaur yet T_T I just learned a new bullshit combo last night: furion tp from behind, create treants that could stun you with centaur ulti.... free initiation? | ||
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Testuser
6469 Posts
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Spicy_Curry
United States10573 Posts
If im not mistaken. last word also provides vision which can be critical in mid lane. Its still a very strong ability and I think the high cooldown is icefrogs way of telling you to level it over his other abilities so it may get tweaked later. | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
On October 29 2012 06:34 NB wrote: hahaha, was about to post the exact same sentence.... getting it for every heroes.... BOUNTY HUNTER? HELLO? I just learned a new bullshit combo last night: furion tp from behind, create treants that could stun you with centaur ulti.... free initiation? It works on controlled units besides heroes? for some reason i dont remember this haha but that sounds hilarious. | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On October 29 2012 06:34 NB wrote: hahaha, was about to post the exact same sentence.... getting it for every heroes.... BOUNTY HUNTER? HELLO? I just learned a new bullshit combo last night: furion tp from behind, create treants that could stun you with centaur ulti.... free initiation? Lothar on Windrunner is dope. Lothar PA x4 crit ftw. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On October 29 2012 07:32 FinestHour wrote: It works on controlled units besides heroes? for some reason i dont remember this haha but that sounds hilarious. Chen, brood, furion, even lycan wolf could all be used as stealth initiation. You could see a few wander treants in your jungle, might as well kill it to deny enemy vision? NOPE, ITS A TARP. 5 Men gank right behind the treants.... fuck it. edit: This is why i said the patch wont change much. The mechanic of the skill is global haste phase for ALL heroes and ally units. Even a troll summon skeleton could stun you... the damage should not be a problem in competitive games. | ||
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BurningSera
Ireland19621 Posts
On October 29 2012 08:09 NB wrote: Chen, brood, furion, even lycan wolf could all be used as stealth initiation. You could see a few wander treants in your jungle, might as well kill it to deny enemy vision? NOPE, ITS A TARP. 5 Men gank right behind the treants.... fuck it. edit: This is why i said the patch wont change much. The mechanic of the skill is global haste phase for ALL heroes and ally units. Even a troll summon skeleton could stun you... the damage should not be a problem in competitive games. As i said about 10pages back, necro book on cent is viable for new troll build! | ||
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On that note, I'm not even sure which heroes are still banned from Captain's Mode. Is there a list of them somewhere? | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On October 29 2012 09:29 BurningSera wrote: As i said about 10pages back, necro book on cent is viable for new troll build! HotD imo.... I am surfing through halloween dota comics, realized that there are a lot of brunet and ginger in dota -_- not so much blonde | ||
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5-s
United States1674 Posts
On October 29 2012 09:40 ZasZ. wrote: So to change the topic briefly from Centaur and Drow, what's the deal with Viper? I feel like I have a really good game every time I pick him, but I'm still pretty bad at the game. Is he just a pubstomp hero? What is he missing that keeps him from being picked in competitive play? On that note, I'm not even sure which heroes are still banned from Captain's Mode. Is there a list of them somewhere? He gets picked occasionally in competitive. In general, heroes that are only really good at 1v1 are good at pubs and bad in competitive, since people have bad teamwork in pubs. Huskar is a similar story. | ||
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Slardar
Canada7596 Posts
On October 29 2012 09:40 ZasZ. wrote: So to change the topic briefly from Centaur and Drow, what's the deal with Viper? I feel like I have a really good game every time I pick him, but I'm still pretty bad at the game. Is he just a pubstomp hero? What is he missing that keeps him from being picked in competitive play? On that note, I'm not even sure which heroes are still banned from Captain's Mode. Is there a list of them somewhere? Best way I can explain it is that Viper suffers from being a jack of all trades. He's a mediocre tank, mediocre semi-carry, mediocre support, excels at chase. Everyone does his job better while having either escape / dps / utility. Mirana, Clinkz, Morphling, Weaver, Gyro are examples that are similar in role, and get picked way more often than Viper. Also his damage output is great over time, but he seriously lacks burst. When fights are over in 10-20 seconds on average, whelp..not so good for Viper. | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On October 29 2012 09:29 BurningSera wrote: As i said about 10pages back, necro book on cent is viable for new troll build! There's nothing that isn't viable on the new cent. | ||
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canikizu
4860 Posts
On October 29 2012 09:29 BurningSera wrote: As i said about 10pages back, necro book on cent is viable for new troll build! You sure it's not rod of atos? No dudes can run from rod+stampede. Rod slow 4 second duration Stampede haste 3.75 second duration. Coincident? I think not. | ||
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Fwizzz
Philippines4420 Posts
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