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Canada85 Posts
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
enigma gets blink, stuns the ults. What do you do then? Nothing. Flame post gota go. flamer should be warned and ban. User was warned for this post | ||
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superstartran
United States4013 Posts
On October 28 2012 11:36 NB wrote: your are so dumb its beyond helarious. enigma gets blink, stuns the ults. What do you do then? Nothing. Flame post gota go. flamer should be warned and ban. Except Enigma doesn't have ridiculous amount of str gain, nor does he have an ult that gives his whole entire team haste/unit walking/stun properties. Spreading helps against Enigma, it doesn't against Centaur at all. Idiots get the responses they deserve. The hero is beyond broken, and anyone that is even remotely good at the game can tell. Not a single sane person would ever say Centaur's ult isn't broken; it does too many things, costs nothing, and even does ridic amounts of dmg anyways with his crazy str gain. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
Here, we treat people with respect, despite their background(including gaming background) :-/ On 6.76c: i dont see how this fix anything really. Centaur ult has never been the concern for me: its his animation, turn rate and stats that is scary. Moreover, drow is pretty much unchanged (the massive agi gain already give you more than enough armor and aura doesnt matter in split push), Silencer mana is no longer an issue since you can steal quite a shit load of int in this aggressive meta game. Silencer is so strong that now i can just focus on rushing mech for early survival and still scale extremely well into mid/late game. Conclusion: patch is just for show, nothing changed much since 6.76 :-/ | ||
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mr_tolkien
France8631 Posts
I had a game where we were 15-4 at 15 minutes, I was 5/0/3 on Slardar with 80cs. But they had a Centaur. He farmed a little bit then they proceeded to faceroll us from the point onward. This was fucking stupid >< I seriously wonder how they could think a single second this ult was balanced. User was warned for this post | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 28 2012 12:26 mr_tolkien wrote: I seriously wonder how they could think a single second this ult was balanced. He probably expected the ult to be overtuned, but would rather balance from the overpowered end down, rather than trying to re-balance an underpowered ability on a hero nobody plays. Though tbh, he should have also acknowledged the fact that people will play a newly released hero in DotA 2 regardless of how OP/UP the hero is, and that he'd get a bunch of play data on the hero that way regardless. People are overreacting. Centaur ult is nuts, but it's definitely not the most nuts thing DotA has had to deal with. We got through all the other insane crazy bullshit, and we'll get through this too. It's just that all the people who either never played DotA 1 or forgot how DotA 1 was aren't used to an overtuned hero getting released straight into DotA 2. People should get used to this, as it's quite frequent for Icefrog to release remakes/new heroes on the OP side. Just take it as it is and be glad we only get new heroes every 6 months to a year, rather than once every few weeks like some other games. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=310452 GO there for your balance complaints. otherwise. keep it out of here -.- it will almost always add nothing to a discussion. | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On October 28 2012 12:39 TheYango wrote: He probably expected the ult to be overtuned, but would rather balance from the overpowered end down, rather than trying to re-balance an underpowered ability on a hero nobody plays. Though tbh, he should have also acknowledged the fact that people will play a newly released hero in DotA 2 regardless of how OP/UP the hero is, and that he'd get a bunch of play data on the hero that way regardless. People are overreacting. Centaur ult is nuts, but it's definitely not the most nuts thing DotA has had to deal with. We got through all the other insane crazy bullshit, and we'll get through this too. It's just that all the people who either never played DotA 1 or forgot how DotA 1 was aren't used to an overtuned hero getting released straight into DotA 2. People should get used to this, as it's quite frequent for Icefrog to release remakes/new heroes on the OP side. Just take it as it is and be glad we only get new heroes every 6 months to a year, rather than once every few weeks like some other games. The biggest WTF for me about the Centaur thing is that he didn't leave the CM pool in Dota 1. | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
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Gosi
Sweden9072 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 28 2012 12:57 LuckoftheIrish wrote: The biggest WTF for me about the Centaur thing is that he didn't leave the CM pool in Dota 1. Yeah, that should have been a given. Fortunately, he removed Centaur from -cm in 6.76c before any major DotA 1 tournaments started using it. Change of topic: Resume Delivery on courier most desired feature not yet ported from DotA 1. Yes/No? | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On October 28 2012 13:19 TheYango wrote: Yeah, that should have been a given. Fortunately, he removed Centaur from -cm in 6.76c before any major DotA 1 tournaments started using it. Change of topic: Resume Delivery on courier most desired feature not yet ported from DotA 1. Yes/No? Hmmmm Resume delivery OR proper (bad) angle detection. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 28 2012 13:22 PrinceXizor wrote: Hmmmm Resume delivery OR proper (bad) angle detection. Nah, lets worry about angle detection after we get the hilarity of Bristleback angle detection being screwed up. | ||
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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On October 28 2012 13:25 TheYango wrote: Nah, lets worry about angle detection after we get the hilarity of Bristleback angle detection being screwed up. lol that'll be dumb. he has to be attacking you for you to deal full damage probably. but having earthshaker be a mega threat again would be nice.  | ||
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pap0t
Philippines279 Posts
Only reason why people hasn't put an outcry for the new WD ulti is that no one really like playing that hero. Just wait until WD get perma picked in tournament games. ( maybe not :p ) | ||
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Dubzex
United States6994 Posts
On October 28 2012 12:58 LuckoftheIrish wrote: Odd thought: Ethereal Blade now viable on Drow? Huh? How would this make any sense? She doesn't have anything that has synergy with it. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 28 2012 13:46 Dubzex wrote: Huh? How would this make any sense? She doesn't have anything that has synergy with it. Well she does have a ton of Agi, and you can still manual-cast Frost Arrows through ghost form. It's not "good" per se, but I can see it being a fun item choice, and the Ghost Scepter could be pretty critical against certain heroes jumping on you. | ||
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NB
Netherlands12045 Posts
On October 28 2012 11:36 NB wrote: your are so dumb its beyond helarious. enigma gets blink, stuns the ults. What do you do then? Nothing. Flame post gota go. flamer should be warned and ban. User was warned for this post Really? i was quoting the previous post and forgot the quote tag... REALLY? | ||
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LAN-f34r
New Zealand2099 Posts
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Xinder
United States2269 Posts
On October 28 2012 14:05 LAN-f34r wrote: Well it is also telling the moderators how to do their job, which is also against the commandments is it not? Don't forget the insulting the poster. | ||
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